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R_N

R_N

-Memento Mori-
Dec 3, 2019
1,406
I try to give you the benefit of the doubt especially considering the forum we're on, I have no issue with you personally or your worldview, but it seriously drives me up the fucking wall whenever you complain about people not being "suicidal enough" to be here

Talking about how there's too many people "desperate for attention" and too many "bored" people here? Really? Are you fucking kidding me?
Yeah gatekeeping is bad, and I am sure most of us initially came here researching methods to ctb anyway. I know I did back in the day. But I saw this place is more than that soon after and there is nothing wrong with that imo.

Also, isn't everyone here for attention to some extent? FC should understand that with her amount of engagement. Sure maybe she vents more than anything but why vent to others then? Because you want their reaction and that itself is craving of sorts and need for someones attention.

And nothing wrong with that, we are all humans at the end of the day.
 
february in alaska

february in alaska

wandering aimlessly
Sep 13, 2023
462
Yeah gatekeeping is bad, and I am sure most of us initially came here researching methods to ctb anyway. I know I did back in the day. But I saw this place is more than that soon after and there is nothing wrong with that imo.

Also, isn't everyone here for attention to some extent? FC should understand that with her amount of engagement. Sure maybe she vents more than anything but why vent to others then? Because you want their reaction and that itself is craving of sorts and need for someone else's attention.

And nothing wrong with that, we are all humans at the end of the day.
Exactly. Same reason I despise the "oh, they're just doing it for attention" response when a kid is self harming or some shit. Like, it doesn't matter whether or not they want attention. Some people do want attention, AKA they want someone to finally see them and sympathize and understand how much pain they're in

Same with people being "too bored". I imagine a lot of us are literally just wasting away in our real lives and this is the only place we can talk to others
 
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betternever2havbeen

Elementalist
Jun 19, 2022
833
Like I don't know if it's dying but it sure feels that way to me especially as lot of the time it doesn't even seem to work these days. But I feel like one of the ways it went downhill is that rather than it being full of suicidal people it seems to be full of bored people desperate for attention, to me it feels like they are begging for attention with how they spam the forum with random things and this just causes all the suffering people's vents to be buried. And yet if you use it to actually vent about your wish to die you just get hated on and insulted for it which is just great, totally makes this place feel like a "safe space", there's so much hypocrisy.
You're not more important than other people on here though, they have just as much right to post as you do, even if it's burying your 20th thread about how much the forum sucks now. You actually share a similar view to pro-lifers in that you think all suicidal people should only act a certain way and vent about life being nothing but suffering and how death is the only answer. No one hates on you because you personally wish to die, it's the way you post saying suicide is "self-care", that anyone who wants to live is delusional and try and suggest people shouldn't EVER try and talk someone out of CTB even if it's a terrible method or will traumatise other people.

Why are you SO invested in what other people do?! It's very odd, and not what the vast majority of people are here for I imagine-which would be to find our own method or get support for our own situation from people who feel similar, and in return to try and support others. You have made it very clear you have no intention of CTB anytime soon because it's simply too hard for you (which is completely fair enough) so you must be here for another reason-but being so invested in what other people do on here to the point you are actively trying to discourage people from being "pro-life" (by your definition but probably no one else's) does raise some questions and possible red flags.
 
divinemistress36

divinemistress36

Enlightened
Jan 1, 2024
1,783
I think it's valuable that SaSu has prolific promortalists — certainly helps me & people I know. Too bad the OP took a swipe at people bound to take it personally: "to me it feels like they are begging for attention". Thus predictably unleashing the clusterfuck


As you'd maybe agree, any effective discussion must have defenses against attacks; they're not free-for-alls. For example, religious evangelism's inappropriate for a math forum. Pro-lifer messages are typically inappropriate on suicide subforum — but! — appropriate for recovery subforum. And anyway, prolifers dominate the rest of the internet; they have no shortage of free speech


Guess it's fair to share this opinion, since the the OP alleges people are "begging for attention" — without evidence. (Using a "venting" label doesn't = free ticket)

And since we're all teeing off on each other... :P

Is it just me, or is the Recovery subforum depressing af? Most act clingy to life — no wonder life treats them with such disdain! I must "recover" well enough to act morally & effectively in life — but that place is like Normie School, pumping out NPCs. I post there if I feel I might help OPs, but I feel like a demon walking into a church

Here, at least people interrogate existence to justify the time we waste in it. Asking the right questions imo
The recovery section is more depressing than the suicide forum
 
Judah

Judah

Enlightened
Oct 1, 2020
1,531
Welp, this thread is gonna get locked pretty soon. Just saying that I was here lmao.
In that case I will say a couple of things that I think
@FuneralCry , most of the posts do not exactly fit the purpose of this forum, it feels like you are trying to pigeonhole people or inject them with your negativity at all costs, ignoring how the user might feel or think, there is only one way and that is this aspect the one that makes many users here disagree with you
The majority of users here do not have to commit suicide once they log in, many people, including me, see this site as a help to move forward or at least bear our burdens, plus others feel that this is the only place where we can fit in.

The problem is that all this time you have behaved as if the forum were pro-suicide, I don't want to offend you in any way, but I think it's good that you think a little about what I just said
 
WhatPowerIs

WhatPowerIs

Paragon
Jun 19, 2022
946
From your mouth to God's ears. The worst and most hypocritical part is the chat, in my opinion. A bunch of people complaining how bad they feel, constantly, somethimes every 10 minutes...... I just cannot take that seriously, I m sorry.
And I m sure that the people who complain the most are not the ones who are gonna kill themselves. They just do it for the sake of complainig.... maybe some kind of hobby, I don't know. Anyway, it is a very annoying development.
What a nonsensical post. You're getting upset that people want to have a space where they can vent freely? Mind your own business.
 
Life_and_Death

Life_and_Death

Do what's best for you 🕯️
Jul 1, 2020
6,577
Déjà vu.








one of the rules is "dont spam", does this not count??
 
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LifeIsCrazyNemb

Arcanist
Jan 21, 2024
402
I'm saying it just for fun, please don't take it seriously but I think @FuneralCry is an AI created by mods to spark up some controversial topics
A proof that this is the case is that this user never replies back...lol she just vent the same repettive message and then disapears and write a new thread. infinite loop, an AI created to annoy people lol
 
Loserhero

Loserhero

Heavenly Descension
Sep 29, 2023
8
I don't know how any of you genuinely engage with @FuneralCry all of her posts are just copy and paste she's just trying to increase post count. I lurk this place daily there is alot more low effort posts than 3-4 months ago though.
 
Captive_Mind515

Captive_Mind515

King or street sweeper, dance with grim reaper!
Jul 18, 2023
433
The recovery section is more depressing than the suicide forum

I'm gonna waltz on over to the recovery section, and inform them that they're being too positive about life… stop promoting living in such an obviously biased manner! Don't you know we're "pro-choice" around here!? Have some respect for other people's views! 😂
 
GuylumBardot

GuylumBardot

is no - more to say, there - is no more to say
Feb 4, 2024
26
Well yeah, all the users you originally made friends with have either CTB or recovered and left lol
 
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divinemistress36

Enlightened
Jan 1, 2024
1,783
I'm gonna waltz on over to the recovery section, and inform them that they're being too positive about life… stop promoting living in such an obviously biased manner! Don't you know we're "pro-choice" around here!? Have some respect for other people's views! 😂
My dark soul can't handle the optimism 😆
 
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BorderlineChellery

BorderlineChellery

I was never meant for this life...
Feb 19, 2024
66
As a new member I see things like this and it makes me not want to comment or ask questions. It makes me feel unsure of what is ok to ask or if I should just loiter in the background and figure things out for myself
 
CuriosityAndCat

CuriosityAndCat

Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.
Nov 2, 2023
309
Like I don't know if it's dying but it sure feels that way to me especially as lot of the time it doesn't even seem to work these days. But I feel like one of the ways it went downhill is that rather than it being full of suicidal people it seems to be full of bored people desperate for attention, to me it feels like they are begging for attention with how they spam the forum with random things and this just causes all the suffering people's vents to be buried. And yet if you use it to actually vent about your wish to die you just get hated on and insulted for it which is just great, totally makes this place feel like a "safe space", there's so much hypocrisy.

And another way it's went downhill is how now it's a place for deluded pro-lifers to post about how mentally ill all suicidal people are, and it's sad how this place became so pro-life but anyway whatever, those who hate on suicidal people who vent really are so arrogant, I know they only do it just to feel better about themselves, I can tell that some people really love trying to make others feel bad.

Many of us literally want to die we certainly don't want to be lectured by hostile pro-lifers or be given so called "advice" that is just delusional and invalidates suffering, honestly it's just so cringe when they do that. I wish this place only was for those who want to die, bored people and pro-lifers should just go and enjoy their wonderful, precious life and leave those who suffer alone. So yes, this site really did became too mainstream and if often reminds me of how I cannot stand this human species, humans are such a disgusting species and it's tragic how they haven't gone voluntarily extinct yet, in fact it's tragic how life even exists at all, no matter what only non-existence could ever be desirable.
Considering it's been 4 years and you have 32k posts. I don't want to be mean, but it is hypocritical to call others bored and attention seeking.

You want to die, but that's a feeling. It's not based on a logic. You're still here in the forums after 4 years. Have you considered that it's not logical without having spent at least $20k out of pocket (a rounded minimum actuarial value) on your mental health before suiciding. There's quite literally nothing lost.
 
Life_and_Death

Life_and_Death

Do what's best for you 🕯️
Jul 1, 2020
6,577
As a new member I see things like this and it makes me not want to comment or ask questions. It makes me feel unsure of what is ok to ask or if I should just loiter in the background and figure things out for myself
use the ignore button for people that cause you problems/make you uncomfortable. not everyone here is that way and i hope it doesnt make you not want to interact (although id completely understand if it did, not this specific person/type of thing but similar has caused me to make less of my own threads)
what is ok to ask
as far as whats ok to ask just follow the rules and you shouldnt have a problem
 
EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

|| What Else Could I Be But a Jester ||
Oct 21, 2023
1,263
As a new member I see things like this and it makes me not want to comment or ask questions. It makes me feel unsure of what is ok to ask or if I should just loiter in the background and figure things out for myself
Dude, don't listen to them. They are always complaining about this forum "going downhill". Just ignore them and make as many posts and comments as you wish.
 
CuriosityAndCat

CuriosityAndCat

Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.
Nov 2, 2023
309
As a new member I see things like this and it makes me not want to comment or ask questions. It makes me feel unsure of what is ok to ask or if I should just loiter in the background and figure things out for myself
Welcome to Limbo. Ask forgiveness not permission. Just looked at your messages, that feeling like there's a hole and some part of you is missing and don't have a reason, that's depression. If it's been around for longer than 2yrs it's dysthymia. Both are usually treatable.
 
BorderlineChellery

BorderlineChellery

I was never meant for this life...
Feb 19, 2024
66
use the ignore button for people that cause you problems/make you uncomfortable. not everyone here is that way and i hope it doesnt make you not want to interact (although id completely understand if it did, not this specific person/type of thing but similar has caused me to make less of my own threads)

as far as whats ok to ask just follow the rules and you shouldnt have a problem
Dude, don't listen to them. They are always complaining about this forum "going downhill". Just ignore them and make as many posts and comments as you wish.
Thank you, really appreciate this. I'll try to come out of my shell a bit more
 
Katdogg

Katdogg

Member
Jan 31, 2024
69
As a new member I see things like this and it makes me not want to comment or ask questions. It makes me feel unsure of what is ok to ask or if I should just loiter in the background and figure things out for myself
I'm new here. Don't let this thread stop you from engaging. Unless you're posting deliberately inflammatory stuff... people are quite thoughtful and understanding i have found ( for the most part).
 
BorderlineChellery

BorderlineChellery

I was never meant for this life...
Feb 19, 2024
66
Welcome to Limbo. Ask forgiveness not permission. Just looked at your messages, that feeling like there's a hole and some part of you is missing and don't have a reason, that's depression. If it's been around for longer than 2yrs it's dysthymia. Both are usually treatable.
I have a shopping list of mental health problems. All of which are struggling to be properly treated. It's one of the major reasons I've ended up here
 
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