Sodium Nitrite was Extremely Painful in my Experience

[Spectre]

I'm probably going to ask a stupid question, but what do you mean when you say "suffocation"?
Was there a feeling that your throat was clamped with your hand and you couldn't breathe?
Or did it seem to you that you were breathing faster after a hard run?
That is, oxygen was supplied to the lungs, but for this you needed to breathe faster and deeper?
Or at some point the oxygen stopped coming into your lungs at all when you were conscious?

I was paralyzed so if felt like I couldn't breathe. I must've been hooked to something or maybe I was breathing but it didn't feel like it but it just felt like I was choking for a long time.

 

[Justnotme]

I was paralyzed so if felt like I couldn't breathe. I must've been hooked to something or maybe I was breathing but it didn't feel like it but it just felt like I was choking for a long time.

Damn, that's terrible...

 

[Spectre]

Thanks for believing my story

 

[tinyghost]

When I tried using it, my heart was about to jump out of my chest. I felt like I was suffocating, and going unconscious took WAY too long. I'm still alive because I eventually called 9-11. I was looking for something quick and painless. I'm thinking hanging would be preferable as you go unconscious in under 30 secs, otherwise at this point I think a gun is the most ideal option. Has anyone else who's survived SN also thought that it was unnecessarily time consuming and painful?

i tried to hang myself full suspension and i dont know exactly how long it took to lose consciousness but either it took way more than 30 seconds (like several minutes) or i lost all conception of time and it just felt like that long. probably both. sn seems a lot more peaceful but a gun definitely would be faster than both.

 

[Spectre]

A gun it is then. Preferably a shotgun. I don't want to survive another attempt.

i tried to hang myself full suspension and i dont know exactly how long it took to lose consciousness but either it took way more than 30 seconds (like several minutes) or i lost all conception of time and it just felt like that long. probably both. sn seems a lot more peaceful but a gun definitely would be faster than

 

[tinyghost]

A gun it is then. Preferably a shotgun. I don't want to survive another attempt.

i hope you have better luck this time i read through the rest of this thread and goddamn, it makes sn seem hellish.

 

[Fulminare]

Has anyone else who's survived SN also thought that it was unnecessarily time consuming and painful?

Genuinely, no. It only went wrong because of a non-existent schedule prior my impulsive attempt. Also not painful at all. But I guess it really depends on the person

 

[Meditation guide]

Here is what taking SN is like usually (vomiting is not mentioned here but people do usually vomit) SN is extremely deadly. This is based on the amount of 25 g. I have no explanation for all the recent reports here of people failing with it.

This is a report on five people who went to the hospital after ingesting SN:

https://i.sanctioned-suicide.net/im...themoglobinemia-and-Death-From-Intentiona.pdf

 

[losing hope]

It was about two years ago. I took exactly 21g, I measured it on a scale and everything. With I think about 30 ml of water. It was lab grade purity, I bought it from a science lab supplier and used my parent's business address in order to receive toxic goods. So I'm sure it wasn't cut with anything.

Thanks for sharing your story & hope you fully recovered from any after effects. How did you test the SN prior to you taking it? i.e. a blood test.

Also was your SN source one that is commonly referred to here?

Also can you kindly describe the taste of the SN. Was it bitter for example?

 

[Lupgevif]

I called 9-11 before I went paralyzed. Technically I could hear everything so I never went, FULLY, unconscious. I suppose it's possible the paramedics gave me something. I doubt nalaxone helps and I don't remember being administered anything. But I also couldn't see or move. I say I didn't go unconscious for about an hour because that's about how long it took for me to be in the ambulance. After that point I don't know if I didn't go unconscious due to medical intervention or not.

Why did you call the paramedics for fear of being paralyzed, before getting paralyzed? Did you know you were going to become paralyzed eventually?

 

[DreamEnd]

Here is what taking SN is like usually (vomiting is not mentioned here but people do usually vomit) SN is extremely deadly. This is based on the amount of 25 g. I have no explanation for all the recent reports here of people failing with it.

This is a report on five people who went to the hospital after ingesting SN:

https://i.sanctioned-suicide.net/im...themoglobinemia-and-Death-From-Intentiona.pdf

An 18-year-old man (Table 1, Patient A) intentionally ingested approximately 15 g of powdered sodium nitrite and 100 mg of dimethyl sulfoxide in a suicide attempt, following instructions he obtained from a suicide blog. He presented to the Emergency Department (ED) 12 hours later with confusion and cyanosis. His initial methemoglobin level was 70.8% and he was treated with a total of 1.5 mg/kg of intravenous (i.v.) methylene blue. The remainder of his laboratory studies were notable for a white blood cell count of 19 109 /L and hemoglobin of 16.9 g/dL, with negative toxicology coingestion levels. His symptoms rapidly improved within 30 minutes of methylene blue administration, and methemoglobin levels trended down to 16% and finally 1.8% several hours later.

So this guy just went into the ER 12 hours later? WTF?

 

[Meditation guide]

Was there pain?

 

[Meditation guide]

An 18-year-old man (Table 1, Patient A) intentionally ingested approximately 15 g of powdered sodium nitrite and 100 mg of dimethyl sulfoxide in a suicide attempt, following instructions he obtained from a suicide blog. He presented to the Emergency Department (ED) 12 hours later with confusion and cyanosis. His initial methemoglobin level was 70.8% and he was treated with a total of 1.5 mg/kg of intravenous (i.v.) methylene blue. The remainder of his laboratory studies were notable for a white blood cell count of 19 109 /L and hemoglobin of 16.9 g/dL, with negative toxicology coingestion levels. His symptoms rapidly improved within 30 minutes of methylene blue administration, and methemoglobin levels trended down to 16% and finally 1.8% several hours later.

So this guy just went into the ER 12 hours later? WTF?

Yes very surprising. He had a high enough methemoglobin level too. I never understood why anyone would take SN with DMSO. If he had cyanosis- he was blue- it's amazing he was still alive. So it can vary a lot, he was an outlier. Maybe he was heavy, which would mean a higher total blood volume, and had recently eaten.

 

[DreamEnd]

Yes very surprising. He had a high enough methemoglobin level too. I never understood why anyone would take SN with DMSO. If he had cyanosis- he was blue- it's amazing he was still alive. So it can vary a lot, he was an outlier.

yeah thats what i dont like about sn. So many different outcomes, who is to say you wont be one of them?

 

[Spectre]

Thanks for sharing your story & hope you fully recovered from any after effects. How did you test the SN prior to you taking it? i.e. a blood test.

Also was your SN source one that is commonly referred to here?

Also can you kindly describe the taste of the SN. Was it bitter for example?

I got it from a mainstream science lab supplier so I didn't see a point in testing. No it's a small canadian lab

Tasted like disgusting salt. Bitter I guess.

Yes very surprising. He had a high enough methemoglobin level too. I never understood why anyone would take SN with DMSO. If he had cyanosis- he was blue- it's amazing he was still alive. So it can vary a lot, he was an outlier. Maybe he was heavy, which would mean a higher total blood volume, and had recently eaten.

I can post an anonymized version of my blood tests on here if anyone is interested.

 

[notahappygirl]

I got it from a mainstream science lab supplier so I didn't see a point in testing. No it's a small canadian lab

Tasted like disgusting salt. Bitter I guess.

I can post an anonymized version of my blood tests on here if anyone is interested.

Does this source ship to the USA without a company ?

 

[Spectre]

idk

Does this source ship to the USA without a company ?

how would I know that?

 

[losing hope]

I got it from a mainstream science lab supplier so I didn't see a point in testing. No it's a small canadian lab

Tasted like disgusting salt. Bitter I guess.

I can post an anonymized version of my blood tests on here if anyone is interested.

No aquarium test, then how do you know SN was in your package? Or even that the SN was still good & hadn't gone bad & converted into Sodium NitrAte?

This person like you brought from a trusted source (IC) but it turned out it was epsom salt & NOT SN in their package; https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/failed-sn-not-sure-why.92077/page-9

Like you their SN also tasted "bitter" which again suggests you didn't have pure SN in the package (even if it was labeled as such). From the 100's of successful SN ctb's I've read about SN doesn't usually taste "bitter" but very "salty" like "seawater". The blood test only tells you some SN is present, but that could only be say 70% so the blood test isn't really good enough alone. As you need SN with a purity of 95% or above.

In conclusion I don't think you had pure enough SN, hence why you failed.

 

[Spectre]

No aquarium test, then how do you know SN was in your package? Or even that the SN was still good & hadn't gone bad & converted into Sodium NitrAte?

This person like you brought from a trusted source (IC) but it turned out it was epsom salt & NOT SN in their package; https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/failed-sn-not-sure-why.92077/page-9

Like you their SN also tasted "bitter" which again suggests you didn't have pure SN in the package (even if it was labeled as such). From the 100's of successful SN ctb's I've read about SN doesn't usually taste "bitter" but very "salty" like "seawater". The blood test only tells you some SN is present, but that could only be say 70% so the blood test isn't really good enough alone. As you need SN with a purity of 95% or above.

In conclusion I don't think you had pure enough SN, hence why you failed.

I know what happened to me. Believe what you want. I'm not arguing this anymore.

 

[John Ryder]

I know what happened to me. Believe what you want. I'm not arguing this anymore.

I believe you. You'll find there's a whole faction on this forum who get outright prickly and aggressive at the tiniest side eye toward SN because they're emotionally invested in the method and can't handle the cognitive dissonance

 

[ropearoundatree]

I'm really sorry you suffered through this…

 

[losing hope]

I know what happened to me. Believe what you want. I'm not arguing this anymore.

Sorry you feel that way. For the record, I'm not trying to make you feel bad & I am NOT an SN fanatic. Indeed, I opened my questioning here with the following words; "Thanks for sharing your story & hope you fully recovered from any after effects." & it is important that we do understand why SN fails in any case. So others can learn from any mistakes.

I just know in addition to that example I posted above, PC (the fishing shop in the US) was thought to be an SN source. Until someone (I forget their username but it was a 20 something year old blonde girl) tried to ctb last dec with it. And whilst PC sold it to her as SN, it turned out it was Sodium NitrAte (not SN).

Maybe PC had SN initially but stored it incorrectly or something, but her case sounds similar to yours as well. I think she also hadn't tested the SN prior. Hence why I believe the SN was of questionable quality in your case. Would welcome being proven wrong, obviously to learn for our own ctb attempts.

 

[sanction]

Even though I'm no expert on SN, I do naturally believe there is no 100% certainty of everyone's scenario being the same. To be extra safe, at best, I would only consider the overall effectiveness for SN to be a smooth and successful CTB to be maybe 90% maximum. There could always be that odd 10% chance something unexpected could happen, that would cause it to not be a smooth experience, despite following the regime. And this logic don't even apply to just SN, but overall for all sorts of CTB methods in general

Therefore I'm not surprised of OP's experience. Sounds like it was getting close though, with the not able to open eyes. Not sure if the dosage was slightly increased from 21g to 25g would of made a difference. Super sorry to hear and hope you're doing better. SN is also my preferred method. Hopefully I'll be able to overcome it one day and move forward

 

[MrDarkness]

I'm skeptical of what this person is saying. Am I the only one who feels like they are pro life or trying to scare us

Your a new member, don't accuse people of being a pro lifer, when you could be one trying to fit in

No aquarium test, then how do you know SN was in your package? Or even that the SN was still good & hadn't gone bad & converted into Sodium NitrAte?

This person like you brought from a trusted source (IC) but it turned out it was epsom salt & NOT SN in their package; https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/failed-sn-not-sure-why.92077/page-9

Like you their SN also tasted "bitter" which again suggests you didn't have pure SN in the package (even if it was labeled as such). From the 100's of successful SN ctb's I've read about SN doesn't usually taste "bitter" but very "salty" like "seawater". The blood test only tells you some SN is present, but that could only be say 70% so the blood test isn't really good enough alone. As you need SN with a purity of 95% or above.

In conclusion I don't think you had pure enough SN, hence why you failed.

I had a friend that had 99.8% sn, he had around the same symptoms, so purity doesn't play a part

 

[Deleted member 65988]

It's important to speak about your negative experience with that method but it's also important to not overgeneralize SN based on your experience because that's what you did in your title and that comes across as fear-mongering, you're trying to draw in people with an alarmist title that suggests SN isn't actually peaceful as an absolute statement when that's not quite true. The PPH gives us some good insight into SN and the peacefulness and reliability of said method is decently rated, especially with the improved regimen that includes benzos. And there are plenty of reports and even studies that suggest SN is relatively peaceful but it's always important to consider your experience might be different based on individual factors.

Can't say it better than this.

I know what happened to me. Believe what you want. I'm not arguing this anymore.

Be that as it may, these are important things to consider if we are better to understand why what happened, happened to you. This was 2 years ago so you've had plenty of time to have answers to questions like this. What's also interesting which crossed my mind is that @DT2007 took about 10g of SN in 100ml of water and still managed to go unconscious for 2hrs before waking up whereas you took way more than he did in less water which would've made the drink very concentrated and you did not go unconscious. This could be interesting because it could be the 1st time the method failed someone.

I must've been hooked to something or maybe I was breathing but it didn't feel like it but it just felt like I was choking for a long time.

Was this before or after intubation when you must've been hooked up to something.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Imo sounds like Nitrate or pro-life psyops . Imo no way is that pure nitrite from a reliable company with a certificate of analysis , with manufacture date , stored in cool dark place, within expiration date. People could mistake nitrate for nitrite

Genuinely, no. It only went wrong because of a non-existent schedule prior my impulsive attempt. Also not painful at all. But I guess it really depends on the person

I've seen many people like u who took SN and said no pain. I guess u were brought to the hospital @Fulminare ?

Also nitrite does convert to nitrate . So if a company sends an old or not properly stored SN could be half nitrate therefore no fast unconsciousness

SN should be tested .

 

[Spectre]

Imo sounds like Nitrate or pro-life psyops . Imo no way is that pure nitrite from a reliable company with a certificate of analysis , with manufacture date , stored in cool dark place, within expiration date. People could mistake nitrate for nitrite

I've seen many people like u who took SN and said no pain. I guess u were brought to the hospital @Fulminare ?

I'm not stupid enough to take nitrate. And you need help if you think anyone cares enough to launch a psyop to convince you not to kill yourself. I literally talk about hanging and shotguns in my opening post. dumbass

 

[losing hope]

I had a friend that had 99.8% sn, he had around the same symptoms, so purity doesn't play a part

If Purity doesn't play a part then why do the vast majority of people on here test their product before attempting ctb? Why does PPH & stan recommend a purity of 95% or above?

What you have to remember is even though a product might say purity of 99.8% on the packaging. That is no guartunee that what is inside the packaging is still 99.8%. That was the case in that IC case I posted above along with this supplier (PC); https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/do-not-buy-or-use-pro-cure-sn.116488/#post-2022369 Here is a quote from post #6 in that thread; "PC claims 99% nitrite, but multiple accounts of members experiencing symptoms of NITRATE poisoning."

Also @Anon1337 said earlier, it is unheard of for someone NOT to go unconscious after taking 21g's of SN. Then OP said this;

...But I was still aware and able to hear everything at the one hour mark in the ambulance. At that point I started receiving treatment so I don't think anything thereafter counts. If you're curious I could still hear everything at the hospital until I was given anaesthesia, because I was crying so much because of the pain. I couldn't move and I also couldn't see because I couldn't move my eyelids.

It could just be a me thing. I'm not sure how common bad reactions to SN are.

Having read 100's of cases, I certainly can't recall anything similar to the above without either user error or the product not being SN. As I said earlier, would welcome to be proven wrong so we can all learn for our own ctb attempts. Another reason why I, like others here, are a little sceptical (again happy to be proven wrong on that) are small comments like the below;

I got it from a mainstream science lab supplier so I didn't see a point in testing. No it's a small canadian lab

Tasted like disgusting salt. Bitter I guess

The bolded text above contradicts itself. Also numerous people beforehand have described the taste of SN as like "seawater". i.e. very salty. I wouldn't describe seawater as "bitter" or "disgusting salt" as sea water is supposed to be fresh salt.

I went back to school for two years afterwards and was still able to get As in my economics courses so I'm guessing if their was a cognitive effect it probably wasn't major.

How old was OP when attempting? Why are they being so defensive now that people are suggesting possible reasons why they could have failed? Why did they originally post a thread title which came across as fear mongering?

P.s. if OP is young & would like to chat, I am avaliable in PM for them.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

If Purity doesn't play a part then why do the vast majority of people on here test their product before attempting ctb? Why does PPH & stan recommend a purity of 95% or above?

What you have to remember is even though a product might say purity of 99.8% on the packaging. That is no guartunee that what is inside the packaging is still 99.8%. That was the case in that IC case I posted above along with this supplier (PC); https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/do-not-buy-or-use-pro-cure-sn.116488/#post-2022369 Here is a quote from post #6 in that thread; "PC claims 99% nitrite, but multiple accounts of members experiencing symptoms of NITRATE poisoning."

Also @Anon1337 said earlier, it is unheard of for someone NOT to go unconscious after taking 21g's of SN. Then OP said this;



Having read 100's of cases, I certainly can't recall anything similar to the above without either user error or the product not being SN. As I said earlier, would welcome to be proven wrong so we can all learn for our own ctb attempts. Another reason why I, like others here, are a little sceptical (again happy to be proven wrong on that) are small comments like the below;



The bolded text above contradicts itself. Also numerous people beforehand have described the taste of SN as like "seawater". i.e. very salty. I wouldn't describe seawater as "bitter" or "disgusting salt" as sea water is supposed to be fresh salt.




How old was OP when attempting? Why are they being so defensive now that people are suggesting possible reasons why they could have failed? Why did they originally post a thread title which came across as fear mongering?

All very good points to make here @losing hope.

Also nitrite does convert to nitrate . So if a company sends an old or not properly stored SN could be half nitrate therefore no fast unconsciousness

SN should be tested .

To avoid situations like this, it should be mandatory to test it to some degree to make certain that it is a pure as stated. Op went through so much, I'm very glad they shared what they did and I don't think calling them a pro-lifer or having an ulterior motive other than sharing an honest experience is the way to respond.

I wouldn't describe seawater as "bitter" or "disgusting salt" as sea water is supposed to be fresh salt.

Hence why it's even been disguised in homicide cases as regular tasting salt albeit possibly even more saltier depending on the person

 

[Dot]

@tiredquail ws also parlysd whn thy usd SN - sh/ ws only othr cse whre slf hve hrd of tht tho

Slf cnnt remmbr whthr sh/ lst visn or nt

OP - hw wre u abl t/ cll 911 if u cld nt C


Also pls kp convrsatn civl & d/ nt rsort t/ nme-callng