Willy Wonka
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- Dec 15, 2021
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I'd also love to know that! ;)Im in Germany, have the SN from a polish source but struggle to find meto without a receipt. Can someone point me in the right direction? I might be able to return the favor.
I'd also love to know that! ;)Im in Germany, have the SN from a polish source but struggle to find meto without a receipt. Can someone point me in the right direction? I might be able to return the favor.
HI--I got SN sealed bag from retailer on A..........not sure about the company, they dont respond to emails. I used business acct. 1/2 pound bag. Its powder not salt, is that ok? Do i need more or less grams if using powder. How do I test it. They say 99 purity. I cant find the info for testing. I know I saw it before when browsing but I cant figure out how to search or locate anything. Could you direct me? TY...For PPH you have to purchase the ebook and show ID with photo that you're over 50 yo and then Wait 30 day waiting period to access the forums.
No, unfortunately potassium nitrite won't work for Su. If you have 8 oz SN that's enough to test and make 3 glasses. 8 oz is 226 grams. You need 75 grams to make the 3 glasses of 25 grams each and 5 grams for testing, so 80 grams total is needed for method.
Do you know where can we find sodium nitrite in indiaHere india its strict, but i written in a plane paper the generic names of dopomine blockers,
Metaclopramide
Domperidone
Proclorperazine
and approched many medical shops in town, all they denied, yet atlast one shop keeper asked me back, that "who adviced for this medicine", i told my friend is doctor, and he suggested through phone, then they gave me without billing.
U just try like this something.
This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.
Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.
First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.
Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.
As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.
Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".
You'll need the following:
SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.
Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.
Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.
I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.
Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.
Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.
In Stan's guide to SN, it says purity> 95% but here it says purity > 98%.This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.
Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.
First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.
Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.
As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.
Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".
You'll need the following:
SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.
Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.
Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.
I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.
Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.
Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.
I'm also looking for a UK source. Have you had any luck?Has anyone in the UK received an order from Polish source O? They haven't replied to my email and I'd like to know if they ship there. Thank you
Not drinking enough SN or too diluted because nothing can overpower SN, if you can keep it in the body.I was thinking of using sleeping pills before SN but now that I'm looking through failed attempts, for some reason even when they were able to take the SN and faint, they would fail anyways. What exactly is cancelling the effects of it?
meto and cimetidine together just take it normallyI have these drugs to take with SN, in what order do I take them and how?
metoclopramide (10mg)
propranolol (40mg)
cimetidine (200mg)
Same here, if you get to know anything pls dm meHi,
Any suggestions for where to find SN in India?
This is similar, and it will work the same way essentially, since it's still nitrite but it's bonded to potassium. I don't think amazon realizes this. But it has a slightly different protocol, as the measurements are different.Is this the correct one?
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is the situation in the USA really that bad?Is SN even a viable method with how hard it is to get your hands on SN? I can't seem to find any source that has it for sale. It all requires a business address for US it seems. If any of you know how to go about getting SN can you please inform me.
Yeah, can't find it accessible anywhere. I did see some on Amazon that requires a business account. However, it doesn't say the purity of it and it seems sketchy.is the situation in the USA really that bad?
In the European Union it is no problem to get a SN very cheaply
I'm in Italy and as of now I wasn't able to find a good source, do you have any advice?is the situation in the USA really that bad?
In the European Union it is no problem to get a SN very cheaply
Unfortunately, I can't send you a private message. Apparently you have to participate more here for the function to be activated.I'm in Italy and as of now I wasn't able to find a good source, do you have any advice?
Oh alright I guess that's how it works here, I'll try and send you a PM when I'm allowed toUnfortunately, I can't send you a private message. Apparently you have to participate more here for the function to be activated.
Apparently 'laboratory grade' means the level of impurities is not verifiable so I wouldn't really trust it since it might be way lower than the minimum 98% thresholdDoes anyone know if this could work? I know it doesn't have a purity percentage but I'm really desperate at this point. Thanks in advance.
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Gotcha... That makes sense. Thanks for the info ^^Apparently 'laboratory grade' means the level of impurities is not verifiable so I wouldn't really trust it since it might be way lower than the minimum 98% threshold
SN is not yet completely dead in the US. I have some coming in the mail rn from a Ukrainian source. If you keep searching, you'll find a sourceIs SN even a viable method with how hard it is to get your hands on SN? I can't seem to find any source that has it for sale. It all requires a business address for US it seems. If any of you know how to go about getting SN can you please inform me.
no. you'd have to consume so much to get the required amount of SN that it's not feasible, at all. it's only 0.6% SN, you need at least 95% purity. curing salt is not SN, even though it has SN in it.Does this work for SN?
It looks like SN is in a lot of salt.
That's the only thing I could see to source.
Thank youno. you'd have to consume so much to get the required amount of SN that it's not feasible, at all. it's only 0.6% SN, you need at least 95% purity. curing salt is not SN, even though it has SN in it.
How much does it cost?I was pointed in the right direction now I just have to work up the courage to buy it idk if I should use an alias name and a P.O. Box or my actual name and address.