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@deathissosad - you can PM me anytime, but i don't have enough details about any medication, nor any sources; all information about methods are from this forum; sometimes i get info from bluelight.org, but not often

@outrider567 - thanks. to me, nitrogen (inert gases) is the next best thing after nembutal and fentanyl; it's also legally available (not very easy to obtain, but still ligal)

@Himalayan - hanging, tourniquet, and night-night methods are not very reliable; i updated all methods below Sodium Nitrite to Peacefulness and Reliability of 50% each, indicating (to me) that they are potentially very peaceful, but more research is needed

@jessisme - i found a lot of goodbye threads for people using Sodium Nitrite (SN); from what i read most deaths seemed to be relatively peaceful, with some cases that didn't fallow the guide properly and had some of the symptoms i mentioned in the original post; i estimated 75% relatively peaceful cases vs. 25% discomfort or failed, so i lowered the percentage to 70% to reduce expectations

@Ta555 - that is correct: these are my estimates, based on my research, on this forum; if people need more scientific results please refer to other methods found on the internet, or conduct your own scientific research and draw your own conclusions

@Someone123 - there is nothing authoritative or scientific about this table, as i previously posted that "i compiled this info for myself because i'm looking for the most peaceful methods, but since i spent some time gathering details last month, i thought it might be helpful for others as well". i decided not to complain about my life, and instead do more research about my death. my research is on going, and i invite anyone else to contribute to improve this thread - clearly no one else will help us, so we need to help each other

@usedtobright - thanks. i don't have enough details to come to an informed decision; i'd try to search bluelight.org for keywords such as 'fentanyl patches', or 'fentanyl sublingual'

@ShanaRei - personally i think hypothermia is quite painful and long - and the period between normal body temperature to coma is very long, and (to me) agonizing because i don't like the cold











Peaceful Suicide Methods

MethodPeacefulnessReliabilityAvailabilitySpeed
Nembutal100 %100 %NOT AVAILABLE3 - 5 min
Carfentanyl100 %100 %street< 10 sec
Fentanyl100 %100 %street< 30 sec
Heroine100 %100 %street< 1 min
Nitrogen100 %100 %legal10 - 20 sec
Helium100 %100 %legal10 - 20 sec
Carbon Monoxide (CO)100 %100 %legal< 2 min
Sodium Nitrite (SN)70 %70 %legal (?)10 - 30 min
Tourniquetmore researchmore research100 %more research
Nigh-Nightmore researchmore research100 %more research
Hangingmore researchmore research100 %more research
Bleedingmore researchmore research100 %more research
HyperVentilatemore researchmore research100 %more research
Other Methods
 
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hanging and partial - method research

i don't watch gore - i've watched very brutal videos a few years ago and i'm desensitized
now i'm just doing research on hanging, partial, and blood choke (korean / night-night) methods

i'm particularly interested in time to unconsciousness, for full and partial hanging
  • ability to abort the attempt
  • arms / legs / body movements
  • duration to unconsciousness (avg under 1 minute)



the links below are not gore, simple suicides showing preparation, drop, and rescue attempts after death
other suicides contain gore - only view them if you can tolerate this
suicide is not pretty; i can't find any other ways to research reality; i didn't watch any other videos
there are a a lot of them but i'm not interested in jumps, train/auto, guns, etc

all videos are from https://www.reeleak.com/questions/suicide
if website goes down, none of the links will be available



young girl, in a hotel; hanging - seemed peaceful
https://www.reeleak.com/244011/girl-hang-herself-hotel-shocked-everyone-found-already-dead

russian young guy - partial hanging; successful; ability to abort the attempt
https://www.reeleak.com/220262/gloomy-sunday

young man - successful
https://www.reeleak.com/180824/young-man-record-while-hanging-himself

9 year old boy - chocking game; partial; ability to abort the game, but didn't
https://www.reeleak.com/62117/choking-game-9-year-old-dies

young man - successful
https://www.reeleak.com/60511/just-hanging-out

young girl - not full video, but it shows clearly that she could have aborted the attempt
https://www.reeleak.com/46439/girl-hanging-herself-at-the-beach

woman, on FB live
https://www.reeleak.com/10140/had-enough-woman-kills-herself-on-fb-live

young man
https://www.reeleak.com/4379/suicide-smiling-good-bye-on-facebook-live

young woman
https://www.reeleak.com/404/beautiful-woman-record-her-own-suicide


 
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I always thought SN would be peacefuller than Heroin although I knew SN takes longer. But I thought it'd be peacefuller in the way that you'd not experience so much suffofication as with Heroin and other opiates. Now this makes me a bit mad. I had some pure H which I bought off the DN few weeks ago. But it's all gone already. I got enough SN. Atleast there's no possibility I snort it all away before I decide to ctb haha. But to think you need all those medications in order for SN. And when it comes to Heroin you just need that one substance provided high purity. It's a bit frustrating tbh. Nonetheless I think I'd still prefer to go with SN. Even if it's a bit more uncomfortable. The risk isn't that high for brain damage compared to opiates. And also I never injected anything before and might fuck it up. Guess both have their pros and cons...
 
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@Lonerzepam - thanks! did you OD'ed on heroine? and if so, did you experience suffocation, and be aware of it?
 
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hanging and partial - method research

i don't watch gore - i've watched very brutal videos a few years ago and i'm desensitized
now i'm just doing research on hanging, partial, and blood choke (korean / night-night) methods

i'm particularly interested in time to unconsciousness, for full and partial hanging
  • ability to abort the attempt
  • arms / legs / body movements
  • duration to unconsciousness (avg under 1 minute)



the links below are not gore, simple suicides showing preparation, drop, and rescue attempts after death
other suicides contain gore - only view them if you can tolerate this
suicide is not pretty; i can't find any other ways to research reality; i didn't watch any other videos
there are a a lot of them but i'm not interested in jumps, train/auto, guns, etc

all videos are from https://www.reeleak.com/questions/suicide
if website goes down, none of the links will be available



young girl, in a hotel; hanging - seemed peaceful
https://www.reeleak.com/244011/girl-hang-herself-hotel-shocked-everyone-found-already-dead

russian young guy - partial hanging; successful; ability to abort the attempt
https://www.reeleak.com/220262/gloomy-sunday

young man - successful
https://www.reeleak.com/180824/young-man-record-while-hanging-himself

9 year old boy - chocking game; partial; ability to abort the game, but didn't
https://www.reeleak.com/62117/choking-game-9-year-old-dies

young man - successful
https://www.reeleak.com/60511/just-hanging-out

young girl - not full video, but it shows clearly that she could have aborted the attempt
https://www.reeleak.com/46439/girl-hanging-herself-at-the-beach

woman, on FB live
https://www.reeleak.com/10140/had-enough-woman-kills-herself-on-fb-live

young man
https://www.reeleak.com/4379/suicide-smiling-good-bye-on-facebook-live

young woman
https://www.reeleak.com/404/beautiful-woman-record-her-own-suicide


I posted this from a medical journal abstract where they look at 8 different suicides by full suspension and had been recorded on video. it answers some of your questions

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...ens-to-the-body-from-medical-abstract.105240/
 
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Answering to @RainAndSadness and @ksp.

The post says that SN is always peaceful and that it can not cause brain damage. This is not true, which is why I wrote my comment. The information must be complete, as it pretends to be in provided table.

In the second link I provided to the post about brain damage there is also a quote from a medical article stating that SN can cause coronary ischemia and stroke, in the end of the post. Also in comments provided additional article (full) about survived brain damage.

Regarding the positive about SN, the first link to the post that I provided also contains a link to a document with failed attempts, most of which were peaceful or just discomforting, this is written at the very beginning of the post. So not only negative information provided, but I don't see any problem in providing negative information about SN, because usually there is already a lot of positive info about in any thread where it is discussed.

For some reason, discussing the shortcomings of SN is sometimes called fear-mongering and only positive information is welcomed. While negative should be welcomed also. Because humans are not animals in the slaughterhouse, people deserve to be aware of the risks and possible pain they may face when choosing a method.

While creating a false positive image about a method or withholding information about risks in order to make people's choices easier is ethically wrong and inhumane.

Most likely I will not respond to new comments, because I see no point in further discussion.
You're providing information of a rare brain damage that people normally recover from in 2 years.


That's the thing though buddy you're not just discussing shortcomings. Would you do causes people to panic. You say things like "well they can be brain damaged and not be able to come back onto the website and tell us" without actually providing any evidence whatsoever.
Edit: I'm not actually sure if the case that I'm talking about is the one that was mentioned in that thread.
 
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MethodPeacefulnessReliabilityAvailability
Nembutal100 %100 %not available
Carfentanyl100 %100 %street
Fentanyl100 %100 %street
Heroine100 %100 %street
Nitrogen100 %100 %legal
Carbon Monoxide100 %100 %legal
GHB100 %70 %dark web
Sodium Nitrite70 %70 %legal (?)
Tourniquetneed infoneed info100 %
Nigh-Nightneed infoneed info100 %
Hangingneed infoneed info100 %
Bleedingneed infoneed info100 %
HyperVentilationneed infoneed info100 %
 
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A good list you put together for this, is very detailed for sure!

As you mentioned, it's much easier to do CO with good old charcoal briquettes, which are easy to come by. Don't get cheap ones either or the ones with lighter fluid already on the briquette. Go for a brand name like Kingsford or any old-school charcoal that's high quality.

The key to this is making sure a room or area (like a tent) is sealed up really, really well. The smaller the area, the better. The charcoal has to be pre-burned too, and the briquettes have to be ashy and grey, smouldering, so burning them will take some time. You'll have to then put them in a container which will allow them to burn but not start a fire due to the heat. I would suggest putting them in a heavy-duty steel container (or even heavy tin takeout containers (stacked into each other) and then lining them with good-quality aluminum foil) because they'll burn pretty damn hot. If you can pull it off, find a way to have the tin containers resting above water too (like in another container), so if it does burn through the tin, it'll douse itself out and not cause a fire.

If you plan on doing it in a house or apartment, make sure you seal the room really well, you don't want to kill anyone else while you're at it. If you're doing it in a tent, well, do the coals resting above water too, you don't want to leave a burned corpse for someone to find.

You don't necessarily need a CO detector too, just simple math will be able to give you how much CO you need to generate (and you can find formulas online if you Google it).

The CO with charcoal is popular in Asian countries for the convenience and also the fact you can buy charcoal and no one will question your motives for doing it. It's also moderately easy to set up and calculate too and as far as being peaceful, I think it's a matter of drifting off and never waking up (if done correctly).
Most methods on that list can cause brain damage, if your post implies that SN has a higher risk for brain damage than others, that's clearly not true. Like if you hang yourself and someone saves you in time, there is a chance that you'll be a vegetable for the rest of your life. Most methods involving ingestion of a substance will stop oxygen flow to your brain eventually. And if you're found and saved in a critical time span there is a chance you'll live with brain damage. Not all brain damage is permanent and not all brain damage turns you into a vegetable.

In the case of the brain damage that's discussed as a result of SN ingestion in that thread, there is no reason to worry. The thread discusses two cases. In the first case, the heart of the person that was found during their SN attempt already stopped beating when they arrived in the hospital. They were probably already in a coma so they didn't experience any pain. She died. The second case discussed in that thread wasn't lethal and the person was released from the hospital after 7 days without(!) neurologic impairment.

I still haven't seen one single case in which a person turns into a vegetable. It's importat to point out potential permanent consequences of your attempt but we also need to prevent any fear mongering of methods that provide a reliable and rather peaceful departure compared to other methods. It's always important to discuss methods not in a vaccuum but in the context of other methods, only that way we can measure how they work and what risks they unveil for us when we decide to exercise our right to die.

Like any suicide method, you'd have to find a person in the act of doing it, or very shortly afterwards, in order to save them. So if anyone plans their attempt correctly without the chance of someone finding them (and the key really is doing it in a place where there are no interruptions for hours), I'd say the success rate is really high, if not 100%
MethodPeacefulnessReliabilityAvailability
Nembutal100 %100 %not available
Carfentanyl100 %100 %street
Fentanyl100 %100 %street
Heroine100 %100 %street
Nitrogen100 %100 %legal
Carbon Monoxide100 %100 %legal
GHB100 %70 %dark web
Sodium Nitrite70 %70 %legal (?)
Tourniquetneed infoneed info100 %
Nigh-Nightneed infoneed info100 %
Hangingneed infoneed info100 %
Bleedingneed infoneed info100 %
HyperVentilationneed infoneed info100 %

Sorry, how did you arrive at 70% peacefulness and 70% reliability for SN?

I've only read one account from someone using SN where they did it wrong (from someone on here) but I don't recall them saying it wasn't peaceful.

Not questioning your sources, just wondering how you got the stats (I'm a data junkie, that's why I'm curious).
 
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As you mentioned, it's much easier to do CO with good old charcoal briquettes, which are easy to come by. Don't get cheap ones either or the ones with lighter fluid already on the briquette. Go for a brand name like Kingsford or any old-school charcoal that's high quality.
thanks for the input about CO method - very helpful

i didn't do extensive research on it, but i know for a fact that there are entire families that died in their sleep because of CO leaks in their homes

this tells me that the survival instinct is completely absent, so logically, this is a very peaceful method
(CO is a colorless, poisonous, odorless, tasteless, flammable gas)

this doesn't mean that there are no side effects from it, but they are not very noticeable.
this method is also dangerous to first response teams, so a note would be very considerate

Sorry, how did you arrive at 70% peacefulness and 70% reliability for SN?

i read about SN starting with the Peaceful Pill eHandbook, by Dr Philip Nitschke and Dr Fiona Stewart
(PPH - Nov 2021 edition, can be downloaded from this website - linked here)

i also read a lot of goodbye threads and stories here, starting with 2018 threads. latest threads ether are done incorrectly (not following proper protocol as outlined in Stan's Guide), or scare tactics meant to discourage the use of SN. overall, i found that SN can be fairly peaceful and reliable, to 75% but i lowered the percentage to 70% to be on the safer side, and lower expectation about it

as a side note, i'd like to mention that death causes brain damage, regardless if the method is peaceful or not
the main point is that a failure in method is the concern here

in order to avoid a failure you need to:
- completely eliminate survival instinct (unconsciousness, coma - hence peaceful methods are the best)
- make sure you don't call for help (determination and willingness to accept consequences no matter what)
- if you become unconscious, make sure that no one will attempt to save you - critical part in brain damage
 
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thanks for the input about CO method - very helpful

i didn't do extensive research on it, but i know for a fact that there are entire families that died in their sleep because of CO leaks in their homes

this tells me that the survival instinct is completely absent, so logically, this is a very peaceful method
(CO is a colorless, poisonous, odorless, tasteless, flammable gas)

this doesn't mean that there are no side effects from it, but they are not very noticeable.
this method is also dangerous to first response teams, so a note would be very considerate



i read about SN starting with the Peaceful Pill eHandbook, by Dr Philip Nitschke and Dr Fiona Stewart
(PPH - Nov 2021 edition, can be downloaded from this website - linked here)

i also read a lot of goodbye threads and stories here, starting with 2018 threads. latest threads ether are done incorrectly (not following proper protocol as outlined in Stan's Guide), or scare tactics meant to discourage the use of SN. overall, i found that SN can be fairly peaceful and reliable, to 75% but i lowered the percentage to 70% to be on the safer side, and lower expectation about it

as a side note, i'd like to mention that death causes brain damage, regardless if the method is peaceful or not
the main point is that a failure in method is the concern here

in order to avoid a failure you need to:
- completely eliminate survival instinct (unconsciousness, coma - hence peaceful methods are the best)
- make sure you don't call for help (determination and willingness to accept consequences no matter what)
- if you become unconscious, make sure that no one will attempt to save you - critical part in brain damage

I'm def not calling you on anything, in fact, I'm pretty impressed by your collection of things for this thread!

100% agree with you too about CO and being peaceful. People have died from it in tents, houses, and anywhere there's carbon around with no air movement. Also, yes, if you're going to try it in a building (house, condo or apartment), I hope people take precautions regarding heat and fire as well as leaving a note telling others of what's in the sealed room in terms of CO.

I wonder what the SN percentages are too, in real data. It's can't be 100% reliable but as far as peacefulness, I wonder what it really is. We'd all like to think it's 100% but everyone is different in terms of pain threshold. Most certainly it's more peaceful than hanging but less than CO.
 
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I wonder what the SN percentages are too, in real data. It's can't be 100% reliable but as far as peacefulness, I wonder what it really is. We'd all like to think it's 100% but everyone is different in terms of pain threshold. Most certainly it's more peaceful than hanging but less than CO.
exactly!

i'm having a big problem with data: there is no way to determine accuracy. we only have people willing to share their experiences. all are extremely subjective - a slight headache for me, you might perceive it as debilitating

example:
this doesnt seem as peaceful as id believed Nembutal would be
a person complaining that nembutal is not peaceful (a video showing someone going 'to sleep' from n)
you never know what people imagining what death should look like

if someone is complaining about nembutal, than SN would be excruciating - opinions are way too subjective

goodbye threads are descriptions from normal people - we appreciate any information that a person is willing to share, but many people are not disciplined enough to provide minute-by-minute information about exactly how they are feeling, because they have huge anxiety and insecurities (what if sn fails, how bad will i really feel before i pass out, and how long should i expect this torment to last) - this anxiety is indescribable: i am facing my death - right now!

i put myself in their place: my pain and suffering is far outweighing the need for me to post my information to update other strangers, even if for some people that information might be crucial; on top of that, what if my sn fails: i'll be scrutinized and criticized by some insensitive people, so why should i bother? the best our community can do is give the benefit of the doubt (try to find the root of the problem, and be considerate about it) and wishing them a fast recovery (at least as an incentive)

in an ideal world, society will provide controlled environments, where qualified professionals would monitor and help the dying person, and provide scientific evidence about the event, that would help and improve the process. but our world is far from ideal, otherwise they'd just provide nembutal or the sarco to everyone…
 
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Thanks for the info, very detailed. Seems SN is not as peaceful as I thought.
 
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Peaceful Suicide Methods

MethodPeacefulReliabilityAvailabilitySpeedSI*
Nembutal100 %100 %NOT AVAILABLE3 - 5 min0
Carfentanyl100 %100 %street< 10 sec0
Fentanyl100 %100 %street< 30 sec0
Heroine100 %100 %street< 1 min0
Nitrogen100 %100 %legality available10 - 20 sec0 - coma
Helium100 %100 %legality available10 - 20 sec0
Crb Mnxide100 %100 %legality available< 2 min0
SN**70 %70 %legal (?)10 - 30 mindiscomfort
Tourniquet60 %50 %100 %1 to 5 minsome pain
Nigh-Night60 %50 %100 %1 to 5 minsome pain
Hanging60 %50 %100 %1 to 5 minsome pain
Bleeding70 %50 %100 %> 1 hour++some pain
HyperVentilate10 %62 %100 %3 to 5 mindiscomfort
Other Methods

* SI = Survival Instinct / Fear
** SN = Sodium Nitrite (not Nitrate)

speed until unconsciousness
- under 1 minute is very fast
- under 5 minutes is fast
- under 30 minutes is acceptable

reliability:
- drugs need very high purity; gas purity > 99.99 %, SN purity > 95%
- make sure you're not found
- if found: failure may imply brain and / or organ damage (long time care); brain damage ranges from temporary, to life time incapacity, to vegetative state; organ damage implies tendon / nerve, kidney, liver, heart





other notes:

- peaceful methods require that you are not 'saved'
- suicide requires to be done by yourself, and under no circumstances will you be helped by another person, so you need to be alone until death (whatever period is required)
- some exceptions that i can think of:
  • voluntary euthanasia clinics / hospitals
  • life-long partner (husband, wife) that wants to die at the same time
  • our 'partner' thread is not recommended, and it's extremely dangerous:
  • all partners need to be throughly vetted, and even that may not be enough - you need to have 100% trust; even couples of 30 or 40 years of being together may not have 50% trust in one another
  • even if you can find someone like that, this may happen:





details and notes about each method (by table order)

- short-acting barbiturate; causes death by respiratory arrest
- dying process: sleep -> coma -> death

pros:
- the drug induces sleep and unconsciousness within 2 to 5 minutes
- while unaware, the brain stops sendings automatic requests to the nervous system
- there are no suffocation symptoms, and breath stops peacefully

cons:
- potential for vomiting (take anti vomiting medication)
- world-wide shortage - not available anywhere
- the shortage is so acute that even medical staff is having difficulty obtaining it
- doctors need it for animal euthanasia
- governments need it for capital punishment, but companies refuse to provide it for inmates
- whatever sources of nembutal are found on line are 100% scams
- veterinarians are legally responsible for the drug, and are dispensing it themselves
- if or when Nembutal becomes available, this is website will verify all sources, and provide confirmation




- heroine is used as recreational drug (no medical benefit, instead morphine is used in hospitals)
- fentanyl is used in hospitals and recreational drugs
- carfentanil is used to anesthetize large animals such as elephants and rhinoceroses

all these drugs are depressants and all cause similar euphoric symptoms
the main difference is in required quantity for fatal overdose:
morphine -> heroine (x3 morphine) -> fentanyl (x50 heroine) -> carfentanil (x100 fentanyl)

pros:
- similar to Nembutal, with added benefit of euphoria, but a fatal dose is so fast that a person will not experience any symptoms, passing out within seconds; in fact they are so fast that a single person trying to self euthanize has a high risk of not completing the injection

cons:
- most of these drugs have a very high failure rates, mainly caused by purity
- street drugs can go as low as 20% purity; sometimes purity can go to 0%
- carfentanil is very hard to obtain even the streets
- fentanyl cannot be found on the street
- drug dealers use fentanyl only to enhance (and cut) other drugs, like heroine, or m30's
- dealers are not as precise as the pharmaceutical companies, so some m30 capsules have hotspots of fentanyl
- some m30 pills (from the same batch) can have 0 fentanyl, other may have enough fentanyl to kill 2 people
- the drug itself is extremely fatal but purity is extremely risky when obtained from the street (lottery)




- are completely different than drugs - inhaling them are tricking the brain into thinking that the person gets the needed oxygen, when in fact is not getting any oxygen at all
- atmosphere contains 78% nitrogen + 21% oxygen + others
- the brain doesn't panic when oxygen is low, instead it panics when carbon dioxide is too high: the breathing is inhaling oxygen and exhaling carbon dioxide (CO2, which is very different than simple carbon monoxide - CO)
- breathing 100% pure nitrogen replaces all oxygen in the body with nitrogen; all subsequent breaths contain: inhalation of 100% nitrogen, and all exhalations still continue to contain 100% carbon dioxide (CO2)
- Nitrogen hypoxia to execute a human (yahoo article, nov 2022)

pros:
- replacing oxygen with 100% nitrogen cause a very fast death, within 10 to 20 breaths
- the body gets deprived of oxygen and induces a comatose state
- different causes of unconsciousness
  • sleep: mostly unaware of environment, but dreams/nightmares still occur; any sound or touch will wake you
  • coma: completely unaware of environment (lights, sounds, smells, touch, etc) and nothing can wake you
- when nitrogen replaces all oxygen, the brain becomes unconscious first (see nitrogen hypoxia)
- symptoms: before becoming unaware, the brain might become euphoric (experienced by pilots but not at normal atmospheric pressure), and the person might experience a range of sensations like blurred vision, confusion, inability to focus, hallucinations, tingling of skin/face/fingers; many people may not feel anything noticeable, others may feel other symptoms, but all symptoms will be for a very short period of time
- another aspect: oxygen deprivation is similar to hanging, the difference is pain / discomfort / suffocation feeling

cons:
- unconsciousness caused by nitrogen is not enough to end your life
- if after 3 or max 4 minutes, the brain will resume normal function (no brain damage at this point)
- more than that, neurons start dying, and brain damage starts
- between 5 and 10 minutes brain death occurs - this is the critical period of extreme danger: if other (well intentioned) people or medical staff are saving you, they will most probably cause an irreversible damage and a life-long of suffering; this is why it's so important to make sure you are alone, and not saved
- after becoming unconscious you will not be able to hold the mask over your nose and mouth, but nitrogen flow will still need to continue, while you are unaware of your environment, and uncontrollable movement of your body
- the nitrogen system / setup will need to continue to work
- this is why we need to have a large enough nitrogen cylinder (minimum of 5 liters)
- nitrogen will be delivered with a flow of about 15 liters per minute (Lpm), so we need a flow regulator
- we also need to have a demand valve for full facia masks - this valve makes sure that all carbon dioxide (CO2) will be eliminated during breathing, and nitrogen will not be used more than the demand
- if CO2 remains in the mask you'll start feeling like you are suffocating, so this is very important

the main setup needs to be properly done




  • carbon monoxide method (CO) - i still need to study this, so i don't know that many details about it, but basically it works on the same mechanism as the inert gases
- carbon monoxide is odorless gas (like inert gases)
- oxygen needs to be replaced by carbon monoxide - CO (not CO2)
- in order to do this we need to have a small room (tent or similar) that will contain CO, and very low oxygen level - under 1%
- a car is not recommended - you could dye burning alive (but a car was used by some people)
- the carbon monoxide needs to be generated by burning coals (cheapest method)
- else buy a CO generator and mask - similar setup as inert gases

pros:
- if done correctly, this has the potential to be 100% peaceful

cons:
- this method was fairly used in the old days, when cars were eliminating high levels of CO
- today's cars (now to 1970's) have catalytic convertors
- these convertors eliminate most CO (will not be able to redirect exhaust from the exhaust pipe back to to cabin)
- also the exhaust had a bad odor (in purpose)
- you might be able to do this if you are a car mechanic and know what you're doing (i don't)




- potentially quite peaceful if done properly

pros:
- not exactly cheap, but not extremely expensive either
- sources still exist, but the seem to be disappearing
- a potential failure may not cause brain damage
- correct procedure: follow stan's guide to SN; in summary:
  • anti vomiting medication
  • anti anxiety medication
  • anesthesia medication
  • SN - 15 to 25 g (don't take too much)
  • if still conscious after first glass, and after a lot of vomiting, drink 1 more glass, depending on the vomiting, drink another glass; at this point you should have a total of 4 glasses, just in case
  • if unconsciousness is quick, at least 15 g should be ingested in the body (and remain in the body)
  • a potential method to bypass the vomiting is discussed here: my-method-of-taking-sn-without-vomiting
cons:
- symptoms may vary - a lot
- if not done correctly
- extremely fast heart rate
- feeling of suffocation (rarely)
- could vomit 90% of SN (not enough to die, but bad enough to feel miserable for a few days)
- noise (neighbors that will call police)
- overwhelming panic - call for help




  • hanging, tourniquet, night-night (blood choke, korean method) methods
- need determination, and mental preparation
- they have the potential to be very peaceful, but you need to be prepared for the worst

pros:
- extremely cheap and available almost anywhere
- potential peacefulness
  • be alone for a few hours
  • done correctly implies: obstruct you neck arteries - not veins (very important)
cons:
- if you obstruct veins you will feel like your head will explode
- if you press on your bronchial area, or esophagus you will experience extreme terror, extreme panic, suffocation
- some people were saved after 20 minutes of hanging




  • bleeding - exsanguination, wrist cutting, blood setting
pros:
- cheap and available
- potentially very peaceful after the initial cut
- fade to unconscious - the brain doesn't get oxygen and you faint

cons:
- initial pain of cutting (wrist, neck, leg, etc)
- nerve damage - unable to make a fist / limbs
- extreme deep cuts are needed to sever major arteries
- very long duration (days maybe)
- extreme dangers:
- if blood coagulation is too fast you stop bleeding (pain for nothing)
- if you cut your wrist by train (extreme example) your wound will be cauterized and you stop bleeding instantly
- a safer way to bleed to death is to use a pump or vacuum to extract blood through a major artery, that will remain open until death




- the cause of this is not drowning or suffocation, but hyperventilating - fainting caused by too much oxygen

pros:
- potentially peaceful
- don't know how this works, but i used to be a swimmer; i used to be able to swim the distance of an olympic swimming pool, underwater, for the entire pool
- i used to be able to hold my breath for 4 to 5 minutes (a long time ago, but my secret was hyperventilation)

cons:
- if you don't become unconscious the drowning process is extremely traumatic and horrific
- the absolute opposite of peacefulness - might as well drown








other notes (for self)

Least painful sudden death is having ventricular fibrillation.
The heart stops beating and there's inadequate blood flow to the brain.
It's very fast. The person is unaware, becomes unconscious, and quickly dies.

Dying of liver failure is generally pain free.
The liver is important in clearing metabolites from the blood stream.
When the liver stops working, certain metabolites build up in the blood and suppress brain function.
Pain perception and judgement are reduced, and the patients are generally unaware.

In early liver failure, there is increased drowsiness and sedation.
As the liver failure progresses, the patient becomes more sleepy and then eventually slips into a coma.

Some patients have itching of the skin due to elevated bilirubin, which gives the skin and the whites of the eyes a yellow hue. It's generally just annoying and can be treated with sedatives and anti-histamines.

Since the failing liver also cannot metabolize narcotics and sedatives, patients who have pain or agitation for other reasons experience a significant reduction in both. For these unfortunate patients, death is peaceful for both them and their families.


worst death: Pancreatic cancer

From nerve pain to bone damage, and treatment side effects, dying of cancer can be very painful, and pancreatic cancer is arguably the worst when it comes to pain.

Pancreatic cancer can cause a great deal of pain when it presses against the nerves around the area. This causes agonizing abdominal and back pain. Intestinal blockages can also occur, as well as referred soft-tissue pain in other parts of the body.
Curious what you mean by "street"? Where exactly would I go to get these?
 
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Curious what you mean by "street"? Where exactly would I go to get these?
I think by street he means drug dealers that you can find on the street/locally.
 
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Curious what you mean by "street"? Where exactly would I go to get these?
It means that these substance can be purchased on the street. I.e., one can buy them from drug dealers.
 
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Curious what you mean by "street"? Where exactly would I go to get these?
sorry, i was being a bit cryptic - trying to save space (keeping all rows of the table on a single line of text)
"street" = means to buy them from drug dealers, as to opposed to buying them on the darknet

I think by street he means drug dealers that you can find on the street/locally.
It means that these substance can be purchased on the street. I.e., one can buy them from drug dealers.
exactly! thanks
 
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Peaceful Suicide Methods - mar 8, 2023

MethodPeacefulnessReliabilityAvailability
Nembutal (Pentobarbital)100 %100 %not available
Carfentanil100 %100 %drug dealers / street
Fentanyl100 %100 %drug dealers / street
Heroin100 %100 %drug dealers / street
Nitrogen100 %100 %legal
Carbon Monoxide100 %100 %legal
GHB100 %need infodarknet
Propofol100%need infoneed info
Barbital-100 (Phenobarbital)100%need infodarknet
Sodium Nitrite70 %70 %legal (in some countries)
Nigh-Nightneed infoneed info100 %
Tourniquetneed infoneed info100 %
Choking Gameneed infoneed info100 %
Hangingneed infoneed info100 %
Bleedingneed infoneed info100 %
Shallow-water blackoutneed infoneed info100 %
SS Resource Compilation---

i want to emphasize again: this is my personal research, and there is nothing scientific about it !

it's slow and unreliable; ex. for now, i have only one failure regarding the GHB method after a few months



the world forces us to experiment on ourselves with sometimes horrible consequences, until society will accept that suffering is absolutely undeniable for some people; awareness and acknowledgment is needed - we can support it by participating in these two polls:

- PETITION - is personal autonomy a fundamental right?

- PETITION - support for voluntary euthanasia for terminally ill, in all countries?
 
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Thank you a lot for compiling the list.. but i think the table should include 'risk in case of failure' ?
cause my opinion kinda changed / mixed when reading the table but then reading the cons of each methods.

hyperventilating - (shallow water drowning)
- the cause of this is not drowning or suffocation, but hyperventilating - fainting caused by too much oxygen

pros:
- potentially peaceful
- don't know how this works, but i used to be a swimmer; i used to be able to swim the distance of an olympic swimming pool, underwater, for the entire pool
- i used to be able to hold my breath for 4 to 5 minutes (a long time ago, but my secret was hyperventilation)

cons:
- if you don't become unconscious the drowning process is extremely traumatic and horrific
- the absolute opposite of peacefulness - might as well drown
can i ask about your ability to hold your breath is hyperventilation.. cause it supposed to be cause of the shallow water blackout right? Ah nvm.. you've mentioned you don't know how it works 🤦‍♂️
 
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What about bupivacaine? Intravenously used analgesic causing cardiac arrest, listed in studies on human euthanasia. Median time to death was around 10 minutes.
 
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I'm certain nitrog is my choice. But the Idea of experiencing the inside of a bag makes me very uncomfortable. When I can't t have a tolerable live I at least want a somewhat tolerable end. Has anyone resources about a modified medicinal mask instead if an exit bag. I'd love to go somewhere quiet in the mountains at night and watch the stars while I go and the idea of doing that with a bag makes me very uneasy.
 
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Thank you very much for caring about our pains. Your work means a lot to me, it's great that you collected most of the content. Even if this information is small, it is still very useful