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Thank you! Can I tell me what will most likely work?
SN (preferably with an AE), opioids or barbiturates. Other supplementary drugs can be added to increase peacefulness and reliability although not entirely necessary.
 
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SN (preferably with an AE), opioids or barbiturates. Other supplementary drugs can be added to increase peacefulness and reliability although not entirely necessary.
Thank you Soo much!
 
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Thank you! Can I tell me what will most likely work?
Read this thread and choose wisely depending on the things which are available to you

Thank you Soo much!
Look into other options too, sn is okay method not a perfect one
 
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Fellow sufferer of life, I spent days wasting my time with this before i realized it is not legal/easy to get in all countries. ...and my energy is precious.
 
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What do you think of Tricyclic OD's? NZ is really restrictive for chemicals and drugs to general public. I only have access to Nortriptyline atm. Will that alone be enough? I have months worth stashed.
Amitriptyline would work but you need a lot, 10g & a load of benzos.
I'm following the digoxin, diazepam, amitriptiyline, morphine, phenobarbital protocol as described in the PPH, with antiemetics taken an hour beforehand.

I'm concerned about shelf life, which I need to research more thoroughly, and I was also considering replacing the morphine with a nitazene (nitrazene? Whatever class protonitazene is in). I'm assuming it would have a similar effect, be cheaper, and a smaller quantity, but want to be sure that it'll be just as effective as morphine.
I thought about this too, replacing the morphine with a zene & replacing diazepam with RC benzo. I think it would work if you dose correctly.
 
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You cannot survive a 30 mg line of Protonitazepyne*** with no tolerance. Shit is stronger than fentanyl, that stuff kills at 2mg, and also proto is sold by the gram, for like 20 per gram...

Anyways I have never heard of any case of brain damage, at least any notable damage from any opioid overdose that wasn't severe enough to be lethal without naloxone/hospital intervention. Only heard of it in cases with doses big enough to require hospital/naloxone for revival, where the overdose was indeed reversed medically before death.

This is why you should do it in isolation, and if you can't find isolation for 30 minutes then mix it with a GABAergic sedative and also some Benadryl. If you can score Methylmethaqualone and take it orally 10 mins before then it's pretty much guaranteed no matter what a hospital tries even 30 minutes after the Proto is snorted.

If you have little to no opioid tolerance then 100% yes, but I would add Alcohol and Benadryl if you want any guarantees, and you would need to have isolation as well. I would take a normal big dose of Klonopin, like 2-6mg depending on your tolerance, along with some Benadryl, probably 100mg, and then take the rest of the Klonopin, with the 30mg Hydromorphone when you start to really feel the initial dose of Klonopin and Benadryl kick in. Preferably with a few shots of alcohol as well. But since you are taking the opioid orally make sure that you have Diphenhydramine/Benadryl or another antiemetic, which I would recommend adding another antiemetic, at least use a Ginger supplement with the Diphenhydramine, so that you can to prevent vomiting any of the Hydromorphone dose.

Of course I understand, I was exaggerating. I only say that because there is an entire research chemical market out on the internet, and it isn't hard to find. I meant it in the sense of, "How has no one on this huge site ever mentioned research chemicals?" I mean they aren't very obscure at all and this forum is huge but all the guides sound so painful, I mean SN is not exactly painless because you can't snort it, so oral consumption will cause a bit of suffering as it takes effect gradually not instantly. And nowadays there are -zenes (Etazene, Protonitazine, Protonitazepyne, Metonitazene, etc) that are several times stronger than Fentanyl, being sold by every chinese RC vendor, on the clearnet, and there's even US vendors, one small line, like a bump of cocaine of any -zene will kill anyone, and they'll get to be asleep for it. There aren't many guides for a death while asleep here, not any good ones anyway, the best way to die is a overdose from sedatives. Methylmethaqualone is the best, but -zenes are also a peaceful sleepy death, specially if you drink a little or take some RC Benzo or Methaqualone analogue. Zenes and Methaqualone analogues literally kill a good chunk of users, I personally almost died from a MMQ overdose and it would have been painless, so why not spread the knowledge since it is legal, arguably the best way to die, I mean just look at how euthanasia is performed in Switzerland, and no one here has mentioned it yet? Why risk a painful not guaranteed death? I am just here to spread knowledge.

I did not mean it in such a rude snobby way as you describe, sorry if I came off as rude. I am moreso surprised that no one has brought this up, in such a big forum, it's just the research chemical subreddit is kinda big, this forum originated from reddit, and this forum is huge, I would think someone would catch on and the popular guides would involve that. I only said it out of surprise, because the research chemical/designer drug market is really not that obscure and I just thought someone would have mentioned it, with how big this server is, but no guide mentions it.

I just can't find any popular guides with research chemicals here yet this forum is huge. I'm surprised please don't take it that way. I never told anyone to spend 10 hours reading pharmacology, but if you simply look at what happens to the body during an SN overdose, without any strong sedative, it sounds terrible, I mean first of all it is consumed orally because you can't snort grams of anything, so it really isn't painless and quick, you have to wait 1-2 hours for its effects to peak and kill you after consumption, and the levels of SN build up gradually in that hour.

Also how can you say the chemicals may or may not cause overdose? Google any of the -zene class of RC opioids. They are all stronger than Fentanyl. 2mg of Fentanyl orally kills you. A line of powder is 30-60mg. You snort any zene and you are dying of an opioid overdose, and if you have a drink or take some benzo (there are RC benzos) you can literally sedate yourself before snorting a small line of any -zene. Do you really think you are immune to an opioid overdose? Not even Fentanyl addicts are surviving nowadays man. If you think I'm making this up just go to the research chemical subreddit. It is huge. I am literally just surprised, that's all. Not trying to come off as snobby, just here saying my opinion and trying to help because I am honestly so surprised, and don't tell me to just name drop a bunch of sources because that's against the rules. I can PM if you are seriously committed, and then you can do your own research on the sites, because many RC sites are scams but determining if they are a scam is pretty easy with a single google search inquiring about the site. So you can verify for yourself since you seem so hesitant to trust me.
I PMed you.
If I made an organized guide on how I would optimally kill myself, rather than the pill with 30x the lethal dose of Fentanyl that I carry around, anyone that is suicidal would drop like a fly as soon as they got their stuff.

Regardless, people complain about no more Nembutal, and I know we talked about this over PM, it is no hard to find other drugs that affect the same receptor site as Barbiturates, which still exist. For example Carisoprodol is widely prescribed even in the modern day and it affects the barbiturate site, quite strongly just like Pentobarbital/Nembutal and unlike the weak barbiturates Butalbital and Phenobarbital that we have today which are much too safe. Also the Quaalude analogues like the MMQ that I mentioned and Nitromethaqualone are currently making a comeback in the RC scene, so using one of those, with a pure opioid, snorted would be my go-to if I didn't have to wait for the police to come get me to pop a death pill.

Also after some research I decided to buy some Nitromethaqualone to put in my kit/capsule as it seems to be a lot more deadly than the Methylmethaqualone that I have. But yes you are 100% right, making a guide with these chems that could be easily found and reach a lot of popularity would make it far too easy to contemplate suicide as a sedated death is not a painful one.

Sometimes I wish my Methylmethaqualone overdose from last year had killed me, as I simply fell asleep and woke up in a hospital with a tube in my throat for breathing, since I wasn't isolated. But if I had been isolated that one dose would have killed me and I wouldn't have even realized I was dying. I just remember feeling drowsy and then poof im in a hospital, my ribs broken from a sternum rub, which is an extremely painful method used by paramedics to awaken people that are in such an overdose. The sternum rub did not work though as I was so sedated. I think it was definitely the tube in my throat controlling my breath along with the saline that lowered drug levels in my blood that ultimately saved me, doctor said if I had taken a few more minutes to get to the hospital I would be dead.

He almost didn't even believe me when I said I took a Quaalude analogue, as he looked at me funny when I said it, but my blood was clean from other drugs and they pumped me with so much naloxone, which does nothing for Quaalude analogues and other drugs that affect barbiturate receptors, but after a few questions, he annotated it in my medical record, which I am sometimes asked about when I go to the doctor now, doctors are usually in disbelief, and my psychiatrist asked if I synthesized it myself as "those things shouldn't exist anymore" but, they do.

Most benzos have effects lasting at least 6-8 hours, with many having effects of 24h or more. High doses will last even longer and super high doses can triple or quadruple the length of effects. But for best results, just know benzo blood levels peak after 30min-2hrs depending on the benzo and contents of the stomach, and a high dose will kick in much faster. With no tolerance, 10mg of Xanax or Klonopin is more than enough, you could also add some Benadryl/Diphenhydramine not only for the SN nausea but it is a strong sedative as well, at doses at or above 50mg. It would be best to take these things 30mins before the SN, or take them and once you feel inebriated take the SN.

Whoever thought that some ibuprofen would stop the pain from SN is just silly, ibuprofen is only for mild pain. Opioids in an adequate dose would be much better for the pain, as the Ibuprofen will not touch that level of pain, also Ketamine is even more effective for pain, it is given to wounded soldiers in combat, and they come out singing as their pain disappears after a Ketamine injection despite an open gunshot wound. So I would recommend one or the other, with a strong sedative and the Diphenhydramine, if you really want to take the SN route. The most important thing is the sedative though, 10mg of Xanax or more should be enough for someone with no tolerance to sleep through that, specially if it is mixed with a good amount of Diphenhydramine, like 100mg, to ensure you are asleep, or Mirtazapine, which is an even stronger sedative and antiemetic similar in action to Diphenhydramine, albeit it is prescription only, but since it is an antidepressant it is easily prescribed and you can just ask for it. Mirtazapine is arguably more sedating than benzos, and has very, very strong antiemetic effects, should have mentioned that first.

Yeah I read the guides here and not only am I confused thinking how the fuck is ibuprofen going to touch those levels of pain? Why not heavily sedate yourself?? I mean sedatives slow your breathing so not only would you be asleep, but you would die faster from hypoxia. But yeah I am so tempted to reveal my surefire methods of dying while sedated, without the pain from an SN overdose, all with legal stuff bought online. But the guilt of making such an easy guide would overwhelm me. Anyone that is dedicated can look into the research chemical market themselves and just go off the things I have said here. I am not making a post dedicated to teaching these things because I don't want my name under something like "Stan's SN guide" that is just ... disturbing.
i was prescribed mirtazipine. It has a similar effect to seroquel, but in my opinion isn't very comparable to benzodiazepine sedation. Mirtazipine makes you super sleepy but doesn't help with anxiety or pain (at least for me) until obviously you fall asleep and then that doesn't matter as much (especially for high doses). Benzos don't make you as sleepy but help more with pain and anxiety.
 
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Amitriptyline would work but you need a lot, 10g & a load of benzos.

I thought about this too, replacing the morphine with a zene & replacing diazepam with RC benzo. I think it would work if you dose correctly.
Do you think it would affect me more having an already inappropriate high heart rate? Currently I'm being assessed for a heart condition. My HR is usually over 100bpm
 
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Yes if you read through the whole thread you can tell there's a lot of ways to go about this. Let me put it simply though since you got some details wrong, I don't blame you though as I said so many methods and don't really want to make a single method post. The biggest error I saw is that you classified Flubromazepam, Gidazepam and Deschloroetizolam as -zene based opioids. Anything ending in -zepam or -zolam is a Benzodiazepine, anything ending in -zene or -pyne (like Protonitazene or Protonitazepyne) is a -zene based opioid.

Also you said Flubromazepam is similar to Nembutal, but in reality when I said that, I was comparing the similarity of some other sedative with Flubromazepam relative to Nembutal and decided that Flubromazepam is more similar to Nembutal out of the two, but there are much more similar and better options.

So, the best way to go about this is with a GABAergic sedative taken first, and when you feel a bit sedated (15 mins to 2h after dosing) snort a line of a -zene based opioid while sedated. You could also replace that second opioid part with a Quaalude analogue (anything ending with -etaqualone)

For a further guarantee, you can also take a megadose of your sedative/benzo at the same time that you take your killer substance (opioid or Quaalude analogue) to ensure you are fast asleep for everything. This is mostly unnecessary as this shit in combination at correct doses will kill even an educated junkie just trying to have fun, but it makes a guarantee, specially if your supplies aren't the deadliest on the lists I made, then it is very recommended for a guarantee. I also am not listing dosages as they can easily be found online, and I can't make it too easy for all you.

So I guess I will make my Research Chemical OD guide here, hidden in this thread, and not too detailed. These are just RC's that are legal around most of the world and therefore accessible to most people, legally.

Here is a list of GABAergics that I have been able to purchase myself or seen on verified vendor's sites around the world. Organized by strength. Quaalude analogues are technically GABAergics but I will put those in a separate category as you want to mix one of the things below, with a Quaalude analogue or a -zene based opioid.

  1. - Carisoprodol: Ordered easily from online pharmacies in India, or at your local pharmacy if you have a prescription or live in a country with lax pharmacies, and albeit being a prescription med, small amounts (100 or less pills) from India are usually accepted by customs. This one acts on the barbiturate receptor similarly to Nembutal and is definitely lethal on its own, but a combo is always better.
  2. - Phenprobamate: This one is a prescription drug in some countries, and is unregulated in most countries, it can be found in Canada as a legal RC powder and ships worldwide. It is similar to Carisoprodol, as Carisoprodol turns into Meprobamate once digested, which is just a bit stronger than this one, and you can tell by the name, they are similar compounds.
  3. - Chloral Hydrate: This can easily be found online from China on non-RC affiliated sites, although technically it is a scheduled compound, it has many uses in laboratory microscopy, and I have gotten 500g of this stuff past USA customs from China twice before. It acts on the GABA receptors similarly to Barbiturates, stronger than benzodiazepines. This stuff tastes extremely vile though and should be dosed in capsules.
  4. - Chlormethiazole: This compound also acts on Barbiturate receptors, if I remember correctly, and if it doesn't act on the barbiturate-GABA site, I am at least certain that it is a stronger sedative than benzodiazepines. This and also its analogues can be found in Canada and shipped worldwide.
  5. - Flubrotizolam: Now we are at the benzo level, all benzos are considerably less lethal than the compounds above, as they affect the GABA site similarly to Barbiturates, but in a more tame way that makes them hard to OD simply from Benzodiazepines, whereas an OD simply from Barbs is not too difficult. I am not going to name all RC benzos as there are so many, but this one is widely sold by USA, Europe and Chinese vendors as well. Benzos are also the most common item on USA research chemical menus.
  6. - Zopiclone: It is a prescription drug but just like Soma/Carisoprodol, it can easily be found by online indian pharmacies and small quantities usually make it past customs. This is a very sedating benzodiazepine.
  7. - Flubromazepam: Another very widely sold RC benzo that is strong and good, but note that this one takes a little longer to peak than other benzos and its effects can easily last 24h.
  8. - Pagoclone: Found in Canada, and some clandestine Chinese labs, it is not the most sedating benzo but is still much stronger than those listed just below.
  9. - Gidazepam/Bromonordiazepam, Bretazenil, and Rilmazafone: These benzos are widely sold online but they are the weakest and least sedating benzos out there, so they should only be used as a last resort, or if you already have a very deadly combo that you are mixing these with. Also Rilmazafone has a ceiling dose, meaning that after a certain dose, no matter how much you take, all it will do is prolong the effects, not increase the intensity, and although the ceiling dose is high, it should be noted.
Note: Benzos have poor water solubility and thus poor intranasal bioavailability, so they should only be taken orally, if you have them in pure powder form they should not be snorted, you should get 90% alcohol, or heat up some Propylene Glycol in order to make them into a volumetric solution, and then divide the mg of Benzo by the mL of solvent to see what your mg/mL dosage is. But most benzo RC's already come in pre-made liquid solutions anyways unless you request the powder form. They also come with a mL syringe to measure your mL's and get an accurate dose.

After you are properly sedated, I recommend using a Quaalude analogue, or a strong opioid. Quaalude analogues are technically GABAergic, but they are different from Benzos in that their lethal doses are only slightly higher than the recreational doses, making them very deadly and sometimes causing accidental overdoses on their own, while Benzos are quite safe and a bit hard to OD on them without a combination of drugs. This makes Quaalude analogues the closest thing to Nembutal for a sedated overdose. They also bind to the same part of the GABA receptor as Barbiturates, although they usually kill you with a seizure, AFTER putting you to sleep, which is the one thing that makes them a bit different from Nembutal, and if you take a dose that isn't enough to be lethal, but is a bit past "recreational doses" you will get "the shakes" and then a seizure, but if you fill any two 00 sized capsules, or emptied out 500mg supplement capsules with one of these in pure powder form, you will go out in your sleep, the combo is just recommended as overkill. Below are the Quaalude analogues that I can find in the current RC market:
  1. - Nitromethaqualone: Arguably the most deadly of the bunch, even junkies don't touch it anymore because all it does is put you to sleep and have seizures, a recreational dose is just a few specs away from a lethal one, it has killed many on accident. Found in China.
  2. - Methylmethaqualone: This one is also super deadly but some junkies mess with it anyway, as it can be recreational before the lethal doses. But 2 capsules of this shit will kill you. Found in Canada and Chinese vendors.
  3. - Mebroqualone: I believe this one is still on the market, it is still legal, and it has been reported on recently. All I will say is you can get it in Chinese labs and is a bit less lethal than MMQ but just do your research.
  4. - Ephinazone: This one is the least deadly of the RC bunch, but two size 00 capsules of this stuff will definitely kill you, specially in a good combo. Found in Canada and clandestine Chinese labs.
  5. - Afloqualone: This one is technically still a prescription drug in Japan, although it is not scheduled in the USA and many other countries. It can be purchased from online Japanese pharmacies and more obscure RC vendors. It is definitely the safest of the entire bunch, although you can easily OD simply from Afloqualone without a combo, it may take a high dose and you should do your research.
Note: Just like benzos, Quaalude analogues are not water soluble, this means they cannot be used intranasally, sublingually and cannot be dissolved in normal drinks. It must be encapsulated, dissolved in alcohol (at least 30-35%) or alternatively they can be smoked with an oil rig/crack pipe. Smoking them makes them a lot stronger, do your research.

Alternatively, you can take an opioid to finish the job, preferably intranasally, or IV, but don't even try to IV if it's your first time injecting. Intranasal is sufficient. I will name the ones that are on the market right now. They aren't exactly in order as any visible amount of a -zene that isn't a few specs of dust is probably going to kill you, even just up the nose, but I recommend railing a cocaine-sized line while sedated with something above, just to ensure things. Most zenes are deadlier than Fentanyl or on par, unless otherwise noted.
  1. Butonitazene: Sold in China and one line will fuck you.
  2. Protonitazepyne: Sold in the EU and in China, doesn't end in -zene but it's all the same drug class.
  3. Metonitazepyne: Sold in the EU and in China, one line will fuck you.
  4. Metonitazene: Sold in the EU and in China, this one is the only -zene that CAN be notably weaker than Fentanyl but only if taken orally, intranasally the bioavailability is higher and one line will fuck you.
  5. Fentanyl: Not an RC but it has become quite easy to get. If you get pure or near pure Fentanyl, one line will fuck you.
  6. Brorphine: This one is only found in Canada and some clandestine Chinese labs, it is about 1/4 the strength of Fentanyl, so I would simply snort 2 lines of this one to ensure things. It is technically a schedule 1 substance in the USA, but if it has a "not for human consumption label" (as all RC's should have) it is legal, it is the only RC with such a law in the USA, other RC's simply have no laws on them.
  7. Opioid RC's that won't guarantee things: 2-Methyl-AP-237, and Dipyanone unless you IV them but these two are extremely caustic and therefore you better get the IV right otherwise you will be in a lot of pain, they also hurt like a bitch to snort and have strengths comparable to Morphine.
  8. Pharma Opioids won't guarantee things: Due to the amount of filler in pharma opioid pills, you can't exactly snort or IV guaranteed lethal doses, unless you can get an IV version from a hospital. so oral consumption is usually required for most of the lethal dose. Although this may result in death most of the time, specially with higher doses, vomiting is always involved, so it could mean that a good part of said opioid gets vomited out which is what "gets the job done" so this could ruin things for you. So even though heroic doses of pharma opioids are usually lethal, I only give the guarantee to the stuff above #7.
  9. The only times that pharmaceutical opioids will guarantee a sedated death are if you have a super strong IV solution from a hospital, or if have taken a big dose of one of the Quaalude analogues (Methylmethaquaone, Nitromethaqualone, Ephinazone) above beforehand, or one of the Barbiturate-GABAergics that are stated above, like Carisoprodol, or Chlormethiazole, before taking a heroic dose of whatever pharma opioid you have in mind. Also there are ways to smoke the Fentanyl in Fentanyl patches, which can easily kill you on its own but a combo is always great to guarantee things.
These are the "corrections" I would make to your post above, but I understand the confusion as I mentioned a million different sedated combos that result in death and I ramble a lot. Dosages aren't provided because google will provide them as easily for you as for me and when it comes to combos it really just comes down to a high dose of both. Usually with a low dose sedative before, and then a megadose of your choice sedative when you take the killer substance. A lot of this stuff doesn't even need combos to kill you but taking a sedative beforehand can take the edge off and make the whole thing a lot easier on your mind.
Can I use seroquel as the first sedative step?
 
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I PMed you.

i was prescribed mirtazipine. It has a similar effect to seroquel, but in my opinion isn't very comparable to benzodiazepine sedation. Mirtazipine makes you super sleepy but doesn't help with anxiety or pain (at least for me) until obviously you fall asleep and then that doesn't matter as much (especially for high doses). Benzos don't make you as sleepy but help more with pain and anxiety.
He has not been online for many days, I am waiting for him too, hope he is okay
 
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Read this thread and choose wisely depending on the things which are available to you


Look into other options too, sn is okay method not a perfect one

Thx for sharing! 😀
 
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I PMed you.

i was prescribed mirtazipine. It has a similar effect to seroquel, but in my opinion isn't very comparable to benzodiazepine sedation. Mirtazipine makes you super sleepy but doesn't help with anxiety or pain (at least for me) until obviously you fall asleep and then that doesn't matter as much (especially for high doses). Benzos don't make you as sleepy but help more with pain and anxiety.
Benzos make you sleepy
Thx for sharing! 😀
Welcome
Thx for sharing! 😀
Welcome
Thank you Soo much!
SN (preferably with an AE), opioids or barbiturates. Other supplementary drugs can be added to increase peacefulness and reliability although not entirely necessary.
No don't add opioids or barbiturates with SN which will make you vomit, opioids will give you nausea and sn too combined reaction you gonna vomit, benzos are okay to add

With sn method don't pump other pills into it, you gonna vomit, keep it simple as possible!

Sn is not the only method, there are a lot of other methods too, to read about those I gave you a link before
 
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I've found some chinese RC markets on the clearnet (not sending anyone sources as it's an easy google search and no idea if they're legit). All require you to 'enquire now' and fill in a web form and they'll email you details .
I need ones that will deliver to england and first one I found claims to clear uk customs .
How do I know if they're legit though ? They all look sus (but i mean they're all gonna be somewhat sus if they're selling RC chemicals knowing people abuse them).

worried about getting scammed. Not just money wise . Like what if they send different chemicals to what they claim or they're laced with something else. Like if it's fatal, i don't really care what's in it. But what if it's not and I end up with brain damage or something but alive ?

Also skeptical whether they would clear customs . The sites have a lot of very strong benzos that are controlled drugs in england, steroids, hormones etc. Seems too easy to order. I'd also have to order to PO box and not sure how that affects things.
 
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What's in my 'kit'?
Rancid SN now Nitrate
 
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These drugs aren't easy to obtain. If they were I wouldn't be sticking to SN as my method of choice. I'll be using only antiemetics since I don't have access to benzos. Both domperidone and ondansetron. I thought about using meto but the potential side effects scared me away from it.
 
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These drugs aren't easy to obtain. If they were I wouldn't be sticking to SN as my method of choice. I'll be using only antiemetics since I don't have access to benzos. Both domperidone and ondansetron. I thought about using meto but the potential side effects scared me away from it.
Sprinkle some antiacids in there for a fast one. Stomach acid converts nitrite to nitrate so with low acid levels more nitrite will enter to your bloodstream that'll accelerate the process.
 
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Sprinkle some antiacids in there for a fast one. Stomach acid converts nitrite to nitrate so with low acid levels more nitrite will enter to your bloodstream that'll accelerate the process.
Will any over the counter antiacid do? I take it I'll have take double the amount of what's specified on the packaging?
 
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Sprinkle some antiacids in there for a fast one. Stomach acid converts nitrite to nitrate so with low acid levels more nitrite will enter to your bloodstream that'll accelerate the process.
i thought anti acids are no longer recommended
 
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idk, im not using any, just sn and ae
Same
i didnt know that but is there any reason for it ?
There's a lot of conflicting info about antiacids. Some people folks say to take them and others don't. It's confusing.


 
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Did anybody find good reliable vendors for these RCs?
 
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Been searching for hours..can't find anything that seems legit.
 
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Ok so I read this thread 3 times…. I'm just confused by the chemical terms.
What is one or two chemicals that is realistic to get online to mix together for a sleep ctb? I'm just not getting this
 
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Ok so I read this thread 3 times…. I'm just confused by the chemical terms.
What is one or two chemicals that is realistic to get online to mix together for a sleep ctb? I'm just not getting this
Try Reddit but be cautious a lot of scammers

You can't get these medications easily online
 
l4dybug

l4dybug

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May 29, 2023
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I have Methylmethaqualone and Protonitazene (both are legal research chemical drugs, with proto being an opioid stronger than fentanyl) on me all the time because of a snitch that might ruin my life, I will overdose before cops bring me into any police station, even though the crime is small, I have nothing to live for and American prison sounds worse than death. Last year I overdosed on Methylmethaqualone, unintentionally as some forum was saying dosages of 100-500 were required just for a normal high, but they must have had a bad batch because me and everyone on reddit responded strongly to doses below 10mg, I would have died if my roommate didn't call an ambulance, since I guess he heard my unconscious body seizing and foaming at the mouth.

But I simply took too much and passed out, the doc said I had a seizure (normal with these Quaalude analogues) but I fell asleep and was unconscious for all of that. So I added an opioid, Protonitazene to aid me in a quicker and guaranteed death next time. I have about 50mg of Protonitazene and 150mg Methylmethaqualone in a MARKED capsule that I keep in my daily medicine container. For reference, you only need about 2mg of Fentanyl to die, so a similar amount would be for Protonitazene, and for Methylmethaqualone, smoking 2-3mg will give an intense high, slightly more is needed orally so I made it 150 for the overkill.

I make this post because I have no idea why you people choose weird techniques or devices, or SN for suicide, when you can literally buy similar drugs, legally and online, similar to those used in legal assisted suicides in Switzerland (Pentobarbital and Fentanyl is what is officially used iirc) which will allow you to go unconscious and then die peacefully, it is simply a strong GABAergic (Pentobarbital) and an opioid (Fentanyl) to guarantee death while asleep, as it should be. This is why my kit is a strong opioid, and a strong GABAergic with a more narrow therapeutic index than Pentobarbital, as Pentobarbital is impossible to get nowadays.

I chose MMQ as my GABAergic (GABAergic drugs are those like Ambien, Xanax, Pentobarbital, and in my case Methylmethaqualone) because it worked before, but could easily replace it with a legal research chemical benzodiazepine like Flubromazepam, which is more akin to Pentobarbital and will only make you pass out with the opioid, rather than pass out and cause a seizure, if I wanted to avoid a seizure from MMQ, although I passed out before my seizure last time and felt nothing, basically fell asleep and woke up in a hospital with a tube in my throat.

TL;DR I study pharmacology but don't want to commit the crime of assisted suicide so I wont help you acquire these legal research chemicals, and wont help you make a plan although I am very willing to tell you if your suicide kit will not guarantee your death and if it is a painful route, so that at least you don't take that route, as suicide does not have to be painful. Mainly because all of the guides I see here sound extremely painful and may impair you severely but not render you unconscious.
i have 4 boxes of benadryll and a bottle of wine
 

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