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I have like NO opioid tolerance at all and have over 500mg Oxy (no apap), will it do the trick?
I'm going to start looking into your sources. I'm in USA, my sn is en route. But sn certainty isn't my preferred. It was N or Fent
 
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I have like NO opioid tolerance at all and have over 500mg Oxy (no apap), will it do the trick?
I'm going to start looking into your sources. I'm in USA, my sn is en route. But sn certainty isn't my preferred. It was N or Fent
Definitely. If the pills are at least 10mg and aren't extended release or don't have too much filler then take em all at once, but have some crushed up at the same time, try to snort 60mg but if they are 10mg pills only crush 2-3 as more will have too much filler and wont absorb.

If you want to guarantee it you should get some RC benzos or Methylmethaqualone. I have sources but only if you are truly committed. Also if you have fent accessible then you can just snort lines of Fent while under the influence of any other sedative while isolated, this way is better than your oxys as snorted Fent can't get out of your system, and even if 500mg Oxy with no tolerance, specially when mixed with alcohol or benzos is guaranteed death, you may feel nausea before you pass out unless you know a way to IV, snort or smoke the 500mg of Oxy but there's no way to do it all with that many pills, unless you somehow have the 160mg pills and are able to crush em up.

If you're in USA I only have benzo sources in USA, but in Canada there's a Methylmethaqualone/benzo source and you can order from them, you only need 1g MMQ or half a gram anyways as 300mg of pure MMQ orally is probably enough to kill someone. 500mg and you'll fall asleep and die, calm guaranteed death, and you can buy just 500mg from the Canadian site. MMQ is arguably the best way to go, you can take it orally, you'll calm down then fall asleep and die similarly to Pentobarbital. You can add some of your Oxy to guarantee it ... I guess but taking MMQ while isolated is guaranteed death while unconscious, the Oxy will guarantee it, so long as you are isolated as somehow my roommate saved me from a MMQ overdose as I woke up in a hospital with a tube in my throat, but if you don't get spotted then the MMQ will surely kill you. If you do use MMQ though don't take too much Oxy so that you don't vomit any of the MMQ, as MMQ cannot be snorted. But I doubt vomit could even save you after a high dose anyway.

If you wanted to order -zenes then you'll have to go through one of the Chinese or Netherlands-based vendors. But you shouldn't need them. Just mix some MMQ or at least benzos with a good amount of oxy and you're done.
 
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Definitely. If the pills are at least 10mg and aren't extended release or don't have too much filler then take em all at once, but have some crushed up at the same time, try to snort 60mg but if they are 10mg pills only crush 2-3 as more will have too much filler and wont absorb.

If you want to guarantee it you should get some RC benzos or Methylmethaqualone. I have sources but only if you are truly committed. Also if you have fent accessible then you can just snort lines of Fent while under the influence of any other sedative while isolated, this way is better than your oxys as snorted Fent can't get out of your system, and even if 500mg Oxy with no tolerance, specially when mixed with alcohol or benzos is guaranteed death, you may feel nausea before you pass out unless you know a way to IV, snort or smoke the 500mg of Oxy but there's no way to do it all with that many pills, unless you somehow have the 160mg pills and are able to crush em up.

If you're in USA I only have benzo sources in USA, but in Canada there's a Methylmethaqualone/benzo source and you can order from them, you only need 1g MMQ or half a gram anyways as 300mg of pure MMQ orally is probably enough to kill someone. 500mg and you'll fall asleep and die, calm guaranteed death, and you can buy just 500mg from the Canadian site. MMQ is arguably the best way to go, you can take it orally, you'll calm down then fall asleep and die similarly to Pentobarbital. You can add some of your Oxy to guarantee it ... I guess but taking MMQ while isolated is guaranteed death while unconscious, the Oxy will guarantee it, so long as you are isolated as somehow my roommate saved me from a MMQ overdose as I woke up in a hospital with a tube in my throat, but if you don't get spotted then the MMQ will surely kill you. If you do use MMQ though don't take too much Oxy so that you don't vomit any of the MMQ, as MMQ cannot be snorted. But I doubt vomit could even save you after a high dose anyway.

If you wanted to order -zenes then you'll have to go through one of the Chinese or Netherlands-based vendors. But you shouldn't need them. Just mix some MMQ or at least benzos with a good amount of oxy and you're done.
I am in the US. Can you on the mmq source when you are able to pm?
 
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Shame you won't give me your source as the first thought that popped in my head was "wow, I need to ask for those sources". Guess not though haha. Crazy that there are people still people worrying about Fentanyl, huh?
 
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You cannot survive a 30 mg line of Protonitazepyne*** with no tolerance. Shit is stronger than fentanyl, that stuff kills at 2mg, and also proto is sold by the gram, for like 20 per gram...

Anyways I have never heard of any case of brain damage, at least any notable damage from any opioid overdose that wasn't severe enough to be lethal without naloxone/hospital intervention. Only heard of it in cases with doses big enough to require hospital/naloxone for revival, where the overdose was indeed reversed medically before death.

This is why you should do it in isolation, and if you can't find isolation for 30 minutes then mix it with a GABAergic sedative and also some Benadryl. If you can score Methylmethaqualone and take it orally 10 mins before then it's pretty much guaranteed no matter what a hospital tries even 30 minutes after the Proto is snorted.

If you have little to no opioid tolerance then 100% yes, but I would add Alcohol and Benadryl if you want any guarantees, and you would need to have isolation as well. I would take a normal big dose of Klonopin, like 2-6mg depending on your tolerance, along with some Benadryl, probably 100mg, and then take the rest of the Klonopin, with the 30mg Hydromorphone when you start to really feel the initial dose of Klonopin and Benadryl kick in. Preferably with a few shots of alcohol as well. But since you are taking the opioid orally make sure that you have Diphenhydramine/Benadryl or another antiemetic, which I would recommend adding another antiemetic, at least use a Ginger supplement with the Diphenhydramine, so that you can to prevent vomiting any of the Hydromorphone dose.

Of course I understand, I was exaggerating. I only say that because there is an entire research chemical market out on the internet, and it isn't hard to find. I meant it in the sense of, "How has no one on this huge site ever mentioned research chemicals?" I mean they aren't very obscure at all and this forum is huge but all the guides sound so painful, I mean SN is not exactly painless because you can't snort it, so oral consumption will cause a bit of suffering as it takes effect gradually not instantly. And nowadays there are -zenes (Etazene, Protonitazine, Protonitazepyne, Metonitazene, etc) that are several times stronger than Fentanyl, being sold by every chinese RC vendor, on the clearnet, and there's even US vendors, one small line, like a bump of cocaine of any -zene will kill anyone, and they'll get to be asleep for it. There aren't many guides for a death while asleep here, not any good ones anyway, the best way to die is a overdose from sedatives. Methylmethaqualone is the best, but -zenes are also a peaceful sleepy death, specially if you drink a little or take some RC Benzo or Methaqualone analogue. Zenes and Methaqualone analogues literally kill a good chunk of users, I personally almost died from a MMQ overdose and it would have been painless, so why not spread the knowledge since it is legal, arguably the best way to die, I mean just look at how euthanasia is performed in Switzerland, and no one here has mentioned it yet? Why risk a painful not guaranteed death? I am just here to spread knowledge.

I did not mean it in such a rude snobby way as you describe, sorry if I came off as rude. I am moreso surprised that no one has brought this up, in such a big forum, it's just the research chemical subreddit is kinda big, this forum originated from reddit, and this forum is huge, I would think someone would catch on and the popular guides would involve that. I only said it out of surprise, because the research chemical/designer drug market is really not that obscure and I just thought someone would have mentioned it, with how big this server is, but no guide mentions it.

I just can't find any popular guides with research chemicals here yet this forum is huge. I'm surprised please don't take it that way. I never told anyone to spend 10 hours reading pharmacology, but if you simply look at what happens to the body during an SN overdose, without any strong sedative, it sounds terrible, I mean first of all it is consumed orally because you can't snort grams of anything, so it really isn't painless and quick, you have to wait 1-2 hours for its effects to peak and kill you after consumption, and the levels of SN build up gradually in that hour.

Also how can you say the chemicals may or may not cause overdose? Google any of the -zene class of RC opioids. They are all stronger than Fentanyl. 2mg of Fentanyl orally kills you. A line of powder is 30-60mg. You snort any zene and you are dying of an opioid overdose, and if you have a drink or take some benzo (there are RC benzos) you can literally sedate yourself before snorting a small line of any -zene. Do you really think you are immune to an opioid overdose? Not even Fentanyl addicts are surviving nowadays man. If you think I'm making this up just go to the research chemical subreddit. It is huge. I am literally just surprised, that's all. Not trying to come off as snobby, just here saying my opinion and trying to help because I am honestly so surprised, and don't tell me to just name drop a bunch of sources because that's against the rules. I can PM if you are seriously committed, and then you can do your own research on the sites, because many RC sites are scams but determining if they are a scam is pretty easy with a single google search inquiring about the site. So you can verify for yourself since you seem so hesitant to trust me.
thank you for your response. im not hesitant to trust you, and i came off as rude too. a quick search in the bar at the top shows that quite a few people have discussed RCs before, but i think you need to have a few more posts to be able to access search function. i do appreciate your post here because from what ive heard RCs are actually way easier and cheaper to acquire than one would think. some kind of new age bootlegger prohibition era shit. i think it would benefit from some kind of organized guide, however due to the nature of it, it would be strictly no sourcing, which of course is a bit of a problem compared to other options where you can just find a rope in home depot or some random salt on a chem supplier warehouse in 10 minutes. most people ctb by jumping or hanging in the modern world (i dont know for sure but i imagine), so something like SN is actually a step up for the majority of people
 
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Do you think i can overdose and die with 30mg of hydromorphone and 100mg of klonopin, is it enough ?
What kind of HM tabletts do you intend to take? Instant or retardet release? I just have the ladder one and am afraid they will not work properly even if I crush them.
 
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My kit consists of

2800mg Fentanyl (plus extras in the form of patches)
470mg Morphine
180mg Amitriptyline
5250mg Pregabaline
270mg Prednisolon

To prevent vomiting I have metoclopromide
when the time is right and I stop being a cowardly, pathetic object, I'll crush the tablets and drink down with whiskey.
 
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What kind of HM tabletts do you intend to take? Instant or retardet release? I just have the ladder one and am afraid they will not work properly even if I crush them.
I don't know which one i got , but yes i will crush them before.
 
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I don't know which one i got , but yes i will crush them before.
I already did a lot of research on HM last year. Unfortunately, the oral availability is quite low and taking doses above 8 mg quickly triggers nausea…
 
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I have SN, a lot of SN and ibuprofen for reducing pain, and diazepam as AM, and melatonin too
 
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If you read my post, I mentioned that the SN method sounds extremely painful. I read about how it kills you and the pharmacology and it just sounds like it severely impairs you, but you aren't unconscious, while your body is literally shutting down, in a painful way. Also ibuprofen overdose sounds super painful. Anti-emetics only help the nausea from the SN method, they may make you a little sleepy but nothing like opioids and gabaergics.
Just curious, but how is 600mg ibuprofen an overdose? I'm looking at my bottle of it right now and they're 200mg per capsule, and I've taken 3-4 easily in the past for general body aches with no issue. Am I missing something?
 
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Just curious, but how is 600mg ibuprofen an overdose? I'm looking at my bottle of it right now and they're 200mg per capsule, and I've taken 3-4 easily in the past for general body aches with no issue. Am I missing something?
It isn't an overdose. People mix it with SN to increase chance of death or something that's what I was referring to. But regardless ibuprofen and SN sound so painful compared to sedative overdose while isolated
 
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It isn't an overdose. People mix it with SN to increase chance of death or something that's what I was referring to. But regardless ibuprofen and SN sound so painful compared to sedative overdose while isolated
You had said that an ibuprofen OD sounded painful (in relation to the SN method, unless I'm mistaken?) and the guide mentions 600mg so I was a bit confused.

Actual ibuprofen ODs are definitely a bitch. Your posts are making me a bit nervous about the SN.
 
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The 600mg ibuprofen suggested with SN is merely to provide pain relief from potential headache caused by SN-induced hypoxia. 1g paracetamol can also be used for this. Although I think neither would make much impact tbh.
 
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Definitely. If the pills are at least 10mg and aren't extended release or don't have too much filler then take em all at once, but have some crushed up at the same time, try to snort 60mg but if they are 10mg pills only crush 2-3 as more will have too much filler and wont absorb.

If you want to guarantee it you should get some RC benzos or Methylmethaqualone. I have sources but only if you are truly committed. Also if you have fent accessible then you can just snort lines of Fent while under the influence of any other sedative while isolated, this way is better than your oxys as snorted Fent can't get out of your system, and even if 500mg Oxy with no tolerance, specially when mixed with alcohol or benzos is guaranteed death, you may feel nausea before you pass out unless you know a way to IV, snort or smoke the 500mg of Oxy but there's no way to do it all with that many pills, unless you somehow have the 160mg pills and are able to crush em up.

If you're in USA I only have benzo sources in USA, but in Canada there's a Methylmethaqualone/benzo source and you can order from them, you only need 1g MMQ or half a gram anyways as 300mg of pure MMQ orally is probably enough to kill someone. 500mg and you'll fall asleep and die, calm guaranteed death, and you can buy just 500mg from the Canadian site. MMQ is arguably the best way to go, you can take it orally, you'll calm down then fall asleep and die similarly to Pentobarbital. You can add some of your Oxy to guarantee it ... I guess but taking MMQ while isolated is guaranteed death while unconscious, the Oxy will guarantee it, so long as you are isolated as somehow my roommate saved me from a MMQ overdose as I woke up in a hospital with a tube in my throat, but if you don't get spotted then the MMQ will surely kill you. If you do use MMQ though don't take too much Oxy so that you don't vomit any of the MMQ, as MMQ cannot be snorted. But I doubt vomit could even save you after a high dose anyway.

If you wanted to order -zenes then you'll have to go through one of the Chinese or Netherlands-based vendors. But you shouldn't need them. Just mix some MMQ or at least benzos with a good amount of oxy and you're done.
I wish I had fent. I'm in USA. I can get iv access just not sure about exact process of mixing. I'm sure and I want out of this life.
 
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I wish I had fent. I'm in USA. I can get iv access just not sure about exact process of mixing. I'm sure and I want out of this life.
No need to IV, if you snort a line of fent like it's cocaine with no opi tolerance you're done. 2mg is a lethal dose, a normal sized line has 30-60mg. Either way the research chem market isn't hard to get into, just go to the RC communities and drug forums online.
 
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No need to IV, if you snort a line of fent like it's cocaine with no opi tolerance you're done. 2mg is a lethal dose, a normal sized line has 30-60mg. Either way the research chem market isn't hard to get into, just go to the RC communities and drug forums online.
So I should get RC source? Or should u just use tye oxy?
 
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If your oxy isn't high mg I would get a pure opioid RC powder as snorting a line of any -zene is guaranteed, but oxy pills have too much filler usually to snort, and oral dosing isn't too guaranteed in death because you can vomit a good part of the dose.
What kind of HM tabletts do you intend to take? Instant or retardet release? I just have the ladder one and am afraid they will not work properly even if I crush them.
You shouldn't crush them, use a pill cutter and split them in half, that is all you need to make them instant.
The 600mg ibuprofen suggested with SN is merely to provide pain relief from potential headache caused by SN-induced hypoxia. 1g paracetamol can also be used for this. Although I think neither would make much impact tbh.
The pain from SN overdose would not be touched by Ibuprofen or Paracetamol, no idea why it is recommended at all. You're better off taking a huge benzo/sedative dose with the SN so you are asleep for it like it's surgery.
I already did a lot of research on HM last year. Unfortunately, the oral availability is quite low and taking doses above 8 mg quickly triggers nausea…
The oral bioavailability might be low but that doesn't stop 8mg orally from being a huge dose. 30mg of instant release mixed with other sedatives while isolated would definitely do the trick. Might need some strong sedatives like Somas/Carisoprodol or RC's that touch the barbiturate receptor like Phenprobamate or something, those are the closest thing to Nembutal nowadays. Soma/Carisoprodol pills are also very easy to acquire from india, and since it affects the same site as barbiturates, a high dose is arguably more lethal than opioids, since it doesn't cause nausea, just eternal sleep ..
I have SN, a lot of SN and ibuprofen for reducing pain, and diazepam as AM, and melatonin too
The ibuprofen wont even touch that level of pain. Take it if you want, but you're better off taking a huge dose of Diazepam to sedate yourself and be asleep for the SN overdose.
My kit consists of

2800mg Fentanyl (plus extras in the form of patches)
470mg Morphine
180mg Amitriptyline
5250mg Pregabaline
270mg Prednisolon

To prevent vomiting I have metoclopromide
when the time is right and I stop being a cowardly, pathetic object, I'll crush the tablets and drink down with whiskey.
You should snort the Fentanyl after taking all the tablets if you want to guarantee anything, if it's only patches though you can look up guides on smoking it I believe. As even if all that combined is a sure death anyway, and I don't think any amount of vomiting will reverse the overdose, at least smoking or snorting the fent ensures it wont escape.
Shame you won't give me your source as the first thought that popped in my head was "wow, I need to ask for those sources". Guess not though haha. Crazy that there are people still people worrying about Fentanyl, huh?
I have shared sources over PM but your account is way too new for me to share the sources. If you are truly committed you can easily find huge research chemical communities on the internet and go from there. The sites aren't on the darkweb and aren't that hard to find if you're committed.
I don't know which one i got , but yes i will crush them before.
No need to crush them, for most extended release tablets you can just cut them in half with a pill cutter for the same result. If you PM me a picture of the tablets or the prescription I can see if they are instant release and if not, what needs to be done to make it instant.
I already did a lot of research on HM last year. Unfortunately, the oral availability is quite low and taking doses above 8 mg quickly triggers nausea…
Also, if the pills are 8mg and don't have too much filler, like if they are about the size of a BB, no more than 5-6mm in diameter, then you can easily eat a few and then snort 2 when you feel the initial oral dose kicking in, but don't snort pills that are bigger than a BB, at least don't snort more than 1 as they have too much filler to absorb all the active ingredient if snorted. A sedative and some diphenhydramine/Benadryl would help guarantee things though.
 
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The ibuprofen wont even touch that level of pain. Take it if you want, but you're better off taking a huge dose of Diazepam to sedate yourself and be asleep for the SN overdose.
That's pretty much what the PPH suggest now, but "Stan's SN guide" here is grandfathered in, lol.
 
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That's pretty much what the PPH suggest now, but "Stan's SN guide" here is grandfathered in, lol.
Does it say to do it before the SN or after you take the drink? And how long before/after? How many mg's of Xanax/Klonopin?
 
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thank you for your response. im not hesitant to trust you, and i came off as rude too. a quick search in the bar at the top shows that quite a few people have discussed RCs before, but i think you need to have a few more posts to be able to access search function. i do appreciate your post here because from what ive heard RCs are actually way easier and cheaper to acquire than one would think. some kind of new age bootlegger prohibition era shit. i think it would benefit from some kind of organized guide, however due to the nature of it, it would be strictly no sourcing, which of course is a bit of a problem compared to other options where you can just find a rope in home depot or some random salt on a chem supplier warehouse in 10 minutes. most people ctb by jumping or hanging in the modern world (i dont know for sure but i imagine), so something like SN is actually a step up for the majority of people
If I made an organized guide on how I would optimally kill myself, rather than the pill with 30x the lethal dose of Fentanyl that I carry around, anyone that is suicidal would drop like a fly as soon as they got their stuff.

Regardless, people complain about no more Nembutal, and I know we talked about this over PM, it is no hard to find other drugs that affect the same receptor site as Barbiturates, which still exist. For example Carisoprodol is widely prescribed even in the modern day and it affects the barbiturate site, quite strongly just like Pentobarbital/Nembutal and unlike the weak barbiturates Butalbital and Phenobarbital that we have today which are much too safe. Also the Quaalude analogues like the MMQ that I mentioned and Nitromethaqualone are currently making a comeback in the RC scene, so using one of those, with a pure opioid, snorted would be my go-to if I didn't have to wait for the police to come get me to pop a death pill.

Also after some research I decided to buy some Nitromethaqualone to put in my kit/capsule as it seems to be a lot more deadly than the Methylmethaqualone that I have. But yes you are 100% right, making a guide with these chems that could be easily found and reach a lot of popularity would make it far too easy to contemplate suicide as a sedated death is not a painful one.

Sometimes I wish my Methylmethaqualone overdose from last year had killed me, as I simply fell asleep and woke up in a hospital with a tube in my throat for breathing, since I wasn't isolated. But if I had been isolated that one dose would have killed me and I wouldn't have even realized I was dying. I just remember feeling drowsy and then poof im in a hospital, my ribs broken from a sternum rub, which is an extremely painful method used by paramedics to awaken people that are in such an overdose. The sternum rub did not work though as I was so sedated. I think it was definitely the tube in my throat controlling my breath along with the saline that lowered drug levels in my blood that ultimately saved me, doctor said if I had taken a few more minutes to get to the hospital I would be dead.

He almost didn't even believe me when I said I took a Quaalude analogue, as he looked at me funny when I said it, but my blood was clean from other drugs and they pumped me with so much naloxone, which does nothing for Quaalude analogues and other drugs that affect barbiturate receptors, but after a few questions, he annotated it in my medical record, which I am sometimes asked about when I go to the doctor now, doctors are usually in disbelief, and my psychiatrist asked if I synthesized it myself as "those things shouldn't exist anymore" but, they do.
Does it say to do it before the SN or after you take the drink? And how long before/after? How many mg's of Xanax/Klonopin?
Most benzos have effects lasting at least 6-8 hours, with many having effects of 24h or more. High doses will last even longer and super high doses can triple or quadruple the length of effects. But for best results, just know benzo blood levels peak after 30min-2hrs depending on the benzo and contents of the stomach, and a high dose will kick in much faster. With no tolerance, 10mg of Xanax or Klonopin is more than enough, you could also add some Benadryl/Diphenhydramine not only for the SN nausea but it is a strong sedative as well, at doses at or above 50mg. It would be best to take these things 30mins before the SN, or take them and once you feel inebriated take the SN.

Whoever thought that some ibuprofen would stop the pain from SN is just silly, ibuprofen is only for mild pain. Opioids in an adequate dose would be much better for the pain, as the Ibuprofen will not touch that level of pain, also Ketamine is even more effective for pain, it is given to wounded soldiers in combat, and they come out singing as their pain disappears after a Ketamine injection despite an open gunshot wound. So I would recommend one or the other, with a strong sedative and the Diphenhydramine, if you really want to take the SN route. The most important thing is the sedative though, 10mg of Xanax or more should be enough for someone with no tolerance to sleep through that, specially if it is mixed with a good amount of Diphenhydramine, like 100mg, to ensure you are asleep, or Mirtazapine, which is an even stronger sedative and antiemetic similar in action to Diphenhydramine, albeit it is prescription only, but since it is an antidepressant it is easily prescribed and you can just ask for it. Mirtazapine is arguably more sedating than benzos, and has very, very strong antiemetic effects, should have mentioned that first.
That's pretty much what the PPH suggest now, but "Stan's SN guide" here is grandfathered in, lol.
Yeah I read the guides here and not only am I confused thinking how the fuck is ibuprofen going to touch those levels of pain? Why not heavily sedate yourself?? I mean sedatives slow your breathing so not only would you be asleep, but you would die faster from hypoxia. But yeah I am so tempted to reveal my surefire methods of dying while sedated, without the pain from an SN overdose, all with legal stuff bought online. But the guilt of making such an easy guide would overwhelm me. Anyone that is dedicated can look into the research chemical market themselves and just go off the things I have said here. I am not making a post dedicated to teaching these things because I don't want my name under something like "Stan's SN guide" that is just ... disturbing.
 
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I also have about 40 metoprolol 50mg and 30 propranolol in addition to the oxy I mentioned but I believe the ixy would be better choice
 
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Propofol, IV digoxin, IV metoprolol, IV diltiazem, bupivacaine, lidocaine. Still looking for rocuronium.
 
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if I didn't have to wait for the police to come get me to pop a death pill.
If you ingest the "death pill" when they get you, how will you make sure it works — I mean, they will bring you to the hospital and you survived it once already.

Is it the added Proto or do I misunderstand your use case here?
 
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So, Methylmethaqualone is the one similar to Nembutal and just falling asleep with a guaranteed death?

I did read your whole post but you mentioned a lot of drugs and I got overwhelmed.
 
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If you ingest the "death pill" when they get you, how will you make sure it works — I mean, they will bring you to the hospital and you survived it once already.

Is it the added Proto or do I misunderstand your use case here?
The proto in there contains about 30-60 times the lethal amount, I have no opioid tolerance either. I also added more MMQ to it after some further research on orally dosed MMQ and just ordered Nitromethaqualone as it is more deadly and will probably remake the capsule with more proto and replace the MMQ with that NMQ I mentioned.

Basically I'm banking on the fact that the amount of Narcan they will need is immense and hopefully once I pass out from the MMQ I get a grand mal seizure and just die.
So, Methylmethaqualone is the one similar to Nembutal and just falling asleep with a guaranteed death?

I did read your whole post but you mentioned a lot of drugs and I got overwhelmed.
Yes it acts on the Barbiturate receptor like Nembutal, and lethal doses of MMQ are much closer to recreational doses, when compared to Nembutal. I also discovered that Nitromethaqualone is even more deadly so I ordered some of that to add in there. The protonitazene is what will do a lot of the real work though as it has 30--60 times the lethal dose in the capsule, so the amount of Narcan needed will be more than any Paramedic has ever seen, specially since I have no opioid tolerance.

If you don't need any emergency pill though, you can easily acquire Carisoprodol aka Soma, a muscle relaxer online from India, it's even still prescribed around the world, which also acts similarly to Nembutal and a few pills of that will have you dead in your sleep as well. Or you can get just get Quaalude analogues and make sure to take a dose about triple of what people online describe as a high or dangerous dose. Then for overkill add a strong opioid, that's what I did at least. If you have time though take the sedative orally first, and when you feel the sedation from that snort the opioid, arguably the best way to go.
I also have about 40 metoprolol 50mg and 30 propranolol in addition to the oxy I mentioned but I believe the ixy would be better choice
Overdosing on those blood pressure meds sounds very painful I do not recommend it, at all.
I also have about 40 metoprolol 50mg and 30 propranolol in addition to the oxy I mentioned but I believe the ixy would be better choice
Overdosing on those blood pressure meds sounds very painful I do not recommend it, at all.
You had said that an ibuprofen OD sounded painful (in relation to the SN method, unless I'm mistaken?) and the guide mentions 600mg so I was a bit confused.

Actual ibuprofen ODs are definitely a bitch. Your posts are making me a bit nervous about the SN.
If you go the SN route, the only way to do it without pain is with strong sedatives. Ibuprofen won't do shit for that. Find some benzos and take a ridiculous dose, or mix at least 100mg Benadryl with Alcohol and take 1hr before doing it SN. If you need sources for strong sedatives that will keep you asleep even for an SN overdose I could help, only if you're serious about your intentions to use the SN though.
Propofol, IV digoxin, IV metoprolol, IV diltiazem, bupivacaine, lidocaine. Still looking for rocuronium.
Why not just mix the IV propofol with a strong opioid? The BP meds you have aren't exactly a peaceful sedated death, BP overdose sounds quite intense tbh. Nothing like other sedatives. If you were able to find Propofol I think you can easily find an opioid, or a benzo or both and go out Michael Jackson style. Maybe just take some Indian Somas/Carisoprodol which are quite easy to get and they affect the Barbiturate receptor similarly to Nembutal with just a few pills.

The lidocaine and bupivacaine are also not exactly good for a painless overdose either.
 
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Why not just mix the IV propofol with a strong opioid? The BP meds you have aren't exactly a peaceful sedated death, BP overdose sounds quite intense tbh. Nothing like other sedatives. If you were able to find Propofol I think you can easily find an opioid, or a benzo or both and go out Michael Jackson style. Maybe just take some Indian Somas/Carisoprodol which are quite easy to get and they affect the Barbiturate receptor similarly to Nembutal with just a few pills.

The lidocaine and bupivacaine are also not exactly good for a painless overdose either.
Propofol is enough as a single agent. But still I can mix others with propofol. Propofol + bupivacine, propofol + lidocaine or propofol + digoxin. Other drugs are just in the bag. I will not use them. I have an injection system that I can inject 1800 mg propofol to myself. This is enough alone. Rocuronium is best agent to add propofol but i couldn't find it.
 
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Of course I understand, I was exaggerating. I only say that because there is an entire research chemical market out on the internet, and it isn't hard to find. I meant it in the sense of, "How has no one on this huge site ever mentioned research chemicals?" I mean they aren't very obscure at all and this forum is huge but all the guides sound so painful, I mean SN is not exactly painless because you can't snort it, so oral consumption will cause a bit of suffering as it takes effect gradually not instantly. And nowadays there are -zenes (Etazene, Protonitazine, Protonitazepyne, Metonitazene, etc) that are several times stronger than Fentanyl, being sold by every chinese RC vendor, on the clearnet, and there's even US vendors, one small line, like a bump of cocaine of any -zene will kill anyone, and they'll get to be asleep for it. There aren't many guides for a death while asleep here, not any good ones anyway, the best way to die is a overdose from sedatives. Methylmethaqualone is the best, but -zenes are also a peaceful sleepy death, specially if you drink a little or take some RC Benzo or Methaqualone analogue. Zenes and Methaqualone analogues literally kill a good chunk of users, I personally almost died from a MMQ overdose and it would have been painless, so why not spread the knowledge since it is legal, arguably the best way to die, I mean just look at how euthanasia is performed in Switzerland, and no one here has mentioned it yet? Why risk a painful not guaranteed death? I am just here to spread knowledge.
Sorry to bother but would you be able to pm me?
Have questions. Thank you.
 
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Sorry to bother but would you be able to pm me?
Have questions. Thank you.
Bro I would but you made your account yesterday. I can't just help out someone so new with a sedated death, that leaves no room for contemplating if you really want suicide as you know you will go out in your sleep rather than have to consider other options yourself if you are truly committed. Sorry
 
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I found out I have a condition that has no cure and that is the reason for me to join here. My life has been hell since last year when all this started. There is no treatment for it. If I could fly to Switzerland I would, but I can't aford it. I am here in the us and I need help. Please.
 

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