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quietwoods

quietwoods

Easypeazylemonsqueezy
May 21, 2025
507
Has anyone ever had any luck locating these types of research chemicals for targeted opioid OD?
Having a last look at alternatives to SN because of mixed reports on it.
Kinda, but only on sites that exclusively sell to businesses or are extremely sketchy. The more reliable international pharmacies I use do not stock any of these items.

While I don't doubt OPs intentions, a lot of people overstate how easy it is to acquire research chemicals and understate any risks involved. Not to mention the immense amount of legwork and verification to get proper sources. Not everyone is an obsessive junky with a timeline of months to figure this all out and money to burn.

At least for the clearnet. It's probably different for DNM places which have actual verification, just that's a whole separate ordeal.
 
sweetreliefpls

sweetreliefpls

Member
Jun 10, 2025
82
Has anyone ever had any luck locating these types of research chemicals for targeted opioid OD?
Having a last look at alternatives to SN because of mixed reports on it.
Second thoughts: This opioid or barbiturate equivalent stuff all sounds ideal in theory, but no idea how to source reliably pure substances. So wouldn't know a lethal dose or combo. What a shame
Kinda, but only on sites that exclusively sell to businesses or are extremely sketchy. The more reliable international pharmacies I use do not stock any of these items.

While I don't doubt OPs intentions, a lot of people overstate how easy it is to acquire research chemicals and understate any risks involved. Not to mention the immense amount of legwork and verification to get proper sources. Not everyone is an obsessive junky with a timeline of months to figure this all out and money to burn.

At least for the clearnet. It's probably different for DNM places which have actual verification, just that's a whole separate ordeal.
Thanks I was just thinking the same. I will probably have to go for SN with Benzos. Too much brain damage to work out other methods. But it's hard to overcome SI so far.
I may or may not use Meto because I am high risk for the nasty side effects. But I already have low dopamine so maybe that helps.
 
quietwoods

quietwoods

Easypeazylemonsqueezy
May 21, 2025
507
Second thoughts: This opioid or barbiturate equivalent stuff all sounds ideal in theory, but no idea how to source reliably pure substances. So wouldn't know a lethal dose or combo. What a shame

Thanks I was just thinking the same. I will probably have to go for SN with Benzos. Too much brain damage to work out other methods. But it's hard to overcome SI so far.
I may or may not use Meto because I am high risk for the nasty side effects. But I already have low dopamine so maybe that helps.
Can look at Zofran (Ondanestron). Not as good but is used for cancer patients and is serotonin-linked instead of dopamine.
 
sweetreliefpls

sweetreliefpls

Member
Jun 10, 2025
82
Can look at Zofran (Ondanestron). Not as good but is used for cancer patients and is serotonin-linked instead of dopamine.
Thanks, I have low serotonin already too. I'll research… Otherwise I have Prochlorperazine….
 
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youpi

Member
Jul 4, 2024
50
Damn, this dude is right.

1. It's easy to receive any powder by email (/r/researchchemicals)
2. There are RC opioids.
3. Nitazenes are more potent than fentanyl
4. SN death is hell.
 
Kali_Yuga13

Kali_Yuga13

Warlock
Jul 11, 2024
725
Damn, this dude is right.

1. It's easy to receive any powder by email (/r/researchchemicals)
2. There are RC opioids.
3. Nitazenes are more potent than fentanyl
4. SN death is hell.
The OP is correct opiates+benzos or other GABAergic drugs potentiate each other. The PPP handbook's low ratings on OD's must be because "cry for help" OD's on OTC medicines muck up the stats and/or factor in acute vomiting for novice opiate users as some sot of unendurable thing amounting intolerable suffering. SN is so likely to inducing vomiting that the entire protocol is centered on AE's and having a second cup ready to down after the first one comes up.

The fact is that millions of pets are humanely euthanized every year via drugs. All legal methods of human euthansia (MAiD, DwD) rely on drugs. Not to mention the many thousands that OD by accident every year.

Just about every method can incorporate a secondary factor that greatly diminishes the chance for survival even if rescue is attempted.
 
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upsidedowngoldfish

upsidedowngoldfish

Member
Jul 21, 2025
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Kinda, but only on sites that exclusively sell to businesses or are extremely sketchy. The more reliable international pharmacies I use do not stock any of these items.

While I don't doubt OPs intentions, a lot of people overstate how easy it is to acquire research chemicals and understate any risks involved. Not to mention the immense amount of legwork and verification to get proper sources. Not everyone is an obsessive junky with a timeline of months to figure this all out and money to burn.

At least for the clearnet. It's probably different for DNM places which have actual verification, just that's a whole separate ordeal.

Do you know what kind verification a DNM would have? I found a SN source on the big one and am trying to work out how legit it is.
 
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orbwithinorb

Student
Aug 4, 2024
133
Damn, this dude is right.

1. It's easy to receive any powder by email (/r/researchchemicals)
2. There are RC opioids.
3. Nitazenes are more potent than fentanyl
4. SN death is hell.
/r/researchchemicals seems like it's very anti-sourcing, would you just use it for information about the RCs effects?
 
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notreallybored

Specialist
Nov 26, 2024
311
ב''ה, "finally a sensible post," so there's nothing hilarious that makes the clever modern luude analogues cancel out anything about the opioid agonists, is there? Nitazenes don't require any first pass liver metabolism or anything, right?
the only sedatives that will make you vomit are opioids. It is quite easy to make a concoction of GABAergic sedatives like Carisoprodol, Benzos, GABAb agonists like 4f-phenibut or baclofen, GHB/GBL/1,4 BDO, and Quaalude analogues and then whatever else you can acquire like 2 shots of whiskey. These don't cause nausea only opioids do.
ב''ה, was replying to this and noticed it's actually mentioned - classic Phenibut and thus I presume all GABA B agonists but don't have experience beyond that will bring incredible, life altering, if you're not suicidal now you will be during nausea, but during the hangover, so ~8 to 12 hours later. This with copious amounts of alcohol as alcohol sure potentiates Phenibut except for this reason to practice a certain amount of moderation, as much as to my knowledge that didn't kill me.

Anyway, Phenibut and presumably any other GABA B agonists appear unique that way. As general advice for anyone reading, benzos and probably the whole class of proper sedatives won't incur nausea but may not particularly confer immunity to alcohol nausea, as in my Phenibut adventures was definitely to the point of 'alcohol affects the labyrinth of the ear' as far as balance and the spins, as all that sedation personally allowed ignoring until waking up to it.. but regular Valium and *azepams, just so y'all know.. might blunt some of that but if your stomach is not ready for two or twelve shots of whiskey, if you're conscious enough to drink it you may be conscious enough for it to incur regular alcohol nausea or at least vomiting however much you consciously notice or are too blotto to notice nausea.

Lest anyone assume there's some magic to keeping down alcohol with them. Honestly pretty decent chance of passing out with the proper amounts before consciously experiencing the unpleasantness, but if you're using this to smooth out an opioid or a poison be advised that, if you might not hold down the bottle of liquor you might wash it all down with, it's not necessarily going to modulate the 'keeping the liquor down,' especially if using an opiate/opioid where both the neuro effects and the GI tract being paralyzed can lead to a stomach overfull of particularly alcohol coming back up.


Anyway, wanted to mention that such that, if choosing this option, perhaps the two shots are going to sit better than the entire bottle just because it might be the last one, and that's if you're prepared to handle two shots normally and not the type to start making faces and gagging at alcohol period.


Now, if we're all here in this thread, the thing about SN is that apparently for folks who have survived these kind of adventures maybe it sometimes works (according to y'all here), so having been through such adventures.. the question of whether these peaceful should be a sure thing options should further be backed up with the salty gross toxin that furthers hypoxia.. can't answer that. As much as an effective amount sounds like a sloshy stomach of tangy brine, imagination suggests that if after taking all the other stuff there's room and consciousness left for a modest glass of the stuff, it might reduce the odds of waking up while the sheer potency of everything else more pleasant that should have been enough already would allow passing out before the worst side effects.. but that is just imagination and a wild assed guess.

(Now, I may be personally of the opinion that if doing any of this one has to be prepared to meet G-d and ask Him to *not* pull out a miracle or play Savior and just let us be done already, but that's, like, just my opinion, y'all.)
 
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rs929

Wizard
Dec 18, 2020
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Has anyone been able to source any of the chemicals mentioned by OP?
 
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socksnsandles

Member
Oct 7, 2025
86
Damn, this dude is right.

1. It's easy to receive any powder by email (/r/researchchemicals)
2. There are RC opioids.
3. Nitazenes are more potent than fentanyl
4. SN death is hell.
ive heard #4 enough times now to the point where im seriously recosnidering going with SN
 
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orbwithinorb

Student
Aug 4, 2024
133
ive heard #4 enough times now to the point where im seriously recosnidering going with SN
I believe there is a thread on here that compiled peoples documented experiences using SN, not sure if you've seen that yet. From what I recall there were varying degrees of suffering attempts. Some reported not much discomfort and passed out relatively quickly, while others weren't so lucky and remained awake for up to 40~ ish while reporting suffering. The experiences were users reported pain were enough for me to disregard this as a potential method. Like sure, it's easy to get but I don't want my last moments alive to be spent in agony.
 

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