Help Need advise on OD method, please. How to consume?

[deepblack]

Seems because of technical issues quite a few data (new threads, comments, PMs, ... ) from the last days is lost.

Because of that I'm reposting a thread I posted three days or so ago. Luckily I saved the thread as .pdf, I'll repost the OP in the following and additionally attach the .pdf of the original thread, since there were some comments on it.

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This is the OP:
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Trying to make it short:

after some research here some time ago I came to the conclusion to try with overdose method. It's pretty much based on the threads @Proper Overdoser posted

What's in your suicide kit? I study pharmacology

I have Methylmethaqualone and Protonitazene (both are legal research chemical drugs, with proto being an opioid stronger than fentanyl) on me all the time because of a snitch that might ruin my life, I will overdose before cops bring me into any police station, even though the crime is small, I...

sanctioned-suicide.net

How I would sedate myself into death, legally. I study pharmacology.

So I made a thread that is now flooded with a million different ways to have a sedated death (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/whats-in-your-suicide-kit-i-study-pharmacology.113882/page-4) with legal research chemicals that can be bought online, since I keep getting asked how I would do...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Due to the circumstances I'm in (mainly that I'm totally broke) I couldn't/can't come up with fancy stuff. All I could get are two research chemicals, 500 mg Metonitazepyne
(opioid, powder, 99% purity) and 100 mg Flubromazolam (benzodiazepine, raw powder, ≥ 98% purity).
Some info on the substances:
Flubromazolam: PsychonautWiki and Wikipedia
Metonitazepyne: couldn't find a dedicated wiki page, it's an opioid PsychonautWiki, Wikipedia, listed at wikipedia under benzimidazole opioids

So basically I got two small plastic sachets with powder, one is white and the other one like brown/orange.
I'm really unsure what the best way to consume that stuff would be? It already starts that I'm not exactly sure what is what lol. There came no info/description with the delivery,
there are QR codes on the sachets but the printing is so bad that it's impossible to successfully scan them. The brown/orange powder seems to be more (I don't have a precise
enough scale for weighing), therefore I assume that's the opioid, also because I believe the color would be more appropriate for an opioid.

From my understanding the basic procedure would be to consume the benzo (Flubromazolam) first, and shortly afterwards the opioid (Metonitazepyne).
As far I can tell the opioid shouldn't be an issue (besides finding the right quantity maybe), as it should be possible to snort this. Initially I thought I could just snort the benzo as
well, but meanwhile I'm pretty sure I can't do that. How should I consume it? The most reasonable thing that comes to my mind would be to put it into some kind of receptacle
and swallow it. That's probably what I'd do without any advise. But I'm not sure if it would work, and am struggling to find infos about that.

Is there anyone here with knowledge/experience in that regard?
Any advise and info appreciated!

thx

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EDIT:
seems attaching isn't possible at the moment, so I can't attach the .pdf. Here's a link with preview for it, just in case somebody's interested
>> https://gofile.io/d/yIPbLM

 

[Letmedienow]

I think your 1st step should be to contact the place you got them from and have them clarify which is which.

 

[Meditation guide]

Seems because of technical issues quite a few data (new threads, comments, PMs, ... ) from the last days is lost.

Because of that I'm reposting a thread I posted three days or so ago. Luckily I saved the thread as .pdf, I'll repost the OP in the following and additionally attach the .pdf of the original thread, since there were some comments on it.

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This is the OP:
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Trying to make it short:

after some research here some time ago I came to the conclusion to try with overdose method. It's pretty much based on the threads @Proper Overdoser posted

What's in your suicide kit? I study pharmacology

I have Methylmethaqualone and Protonitazene (both are legal research chemical drugs, with proto being an opioid stronger than fentanyl) on me all the time because of a snitch that might ruin my life, I will overdose before cops bring me into any police station, even though the crime is small, I...

sanctioned-suicide.net

How I would sedate myself into death, legally. I study pharmacology.

So I made a thread that is now flooded with a million different ways to have a sedated death (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/whats-in-your-suicide-kit-i-study-pharmacology.113882/page-4) with legal research chemicals that can be bought online, since I keep getting asked how I would do...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Due to the circumstances I'm in (mainly that I'm totally broke) I couldn't/can't come up with fancy stuff. All I could get are two research chemicals, 500 mg Metonitazepyne
(opioid, powder, 99% purity) and 100 mg Flubromazolam (benzodiazepine, raw powder, ≥ 98% purity).
Some info on the substances:
Flubromazolam: PsychonautWiki and Wikipedia
Metonitazepyne: couldn't find a dedicated wiki page, it's an opioid PsychonautWiki, Wikipedia, listed at wikipedia under benzimidazole opioids

So basically I got two small plastic sachets with powder, one is white and the other one like brown/orange.
I'm really unsure what the best way to consume that stuff would be? It already starts that I'm not exactly sure what is what lol. There came no info/description with the delivery,
there are QR codes on the sachets but the printing is so bad that it's impossible to successfully scan them. The brown/orange powder seems to be more (I don't have a precise
enough scale for weighing), therefore I assume that's the opioid, also because I believe the color would be more appropriate for an opioid.

From my understanding the basic procedure would be to consume the benzo (Flubromazolam) first, and shortly afterwards the opioid (Metonitazepyne).
As far I can tell the opioid shouldn't be an issue (besides finding the right quantity maybe), as it should be possible to snort this. Initially I thought I could just snort the benzo as
well, but meanwhile I'm pretty sure I can't do that. How should I consume it? The most reasonable thing that comes to my mind would be to put it into some kind of receptacle
and swallow it. That's probably what I'd do without any advise. But I'm not sure if it would work, and am struggling to find infos about that.

Is there anyone here with knowledge/experience in that regard?
Any advise and info appreciated!

thx

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EDIT:
seems attaching isn't possible at the moment, so I can't attach the .pdf. Here's a link with preview for it, just in case somebody's interested
>> https://gofile.io/d/yIPbLM

You've got a couple of chemicals no one here has heard of but you want advice on how to take them. It doesn't make sense, sorry.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I remember that I replied and I said as long as you don't really know what you have there and it's impossible for anyone of us here to analyse what you really have there the best advice is a warning not to use this stuff.

If you are really interested in ODing you should follow one of the proven guides in the PPeH or these ones here:

Amitriptyline guide

Translation from German "Selbstbestimmt Sterben - Handreichung für einen rationalen Suizid (German Edition) Jessica Düber Amitriptyline guide "Tricyclic antidepressants General info Tricyclic antidepressants are psychotropic drugs with a general mood-lifting...

www.sanctioned-suicide.net

Chloroquine guide

Translation from German "Selbstbestimmt Sterben - Handreichung für einen rationalen Suizid (German Edition) Jessica Düber Chloroquine "General info Chloroquine is a drug used for the treatment and prophylaxis of malaria and for the treatment of rheumatic diseases. Cause of death in case of...

www.sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[befree]

other proven guides:

Hypothermia & Diphenhydramine(chloride) method

Translation from the German book "Selbstbestimmtes Sterben. Sanfter Tod bei klarem Geist" Victor Niculescu Hypothermia & Diphenhydramine(chloride) "The lethal dose of Diphenhydramine(chloride) is 50mg per kg body weight. also required: Zopiclon 20 tablets Bromazepam or Triazolam 30-50...

sanctioned-suicide.net

and the Oxycodone & Fentanyl guide:

how much to OD

Would this combo be enough to cbt ? I have no tolerance on any of the substance . I would take the oxycodone orally or by snorting. 300 mg of oxycodone 40 mg of alprazolam 1 litre of 40% rum Any tips or should I add something in the mix, just to be sure, like prebagalin or something else ?

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[deepblack]

You've got a couple of chemicals no one here has heard of but you want advice on how to take them. It doesn't make sense, sorry.

I'd be very surprised if nobody here had some knowledge/experience with similar substances.
Maybe not with exactly those in particular and not necessarily for the purpose of CTB, but in general. It's not like opioids and benzodiazepines are some otherwordly substances from planet Melmac. Swap Metonitazepyne with Fentanyl, and Flubromazolam with Diazepam, if that makes more sense to you, sorry.

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I think your 1st step should be to contact the place you got them from and have them clarify which is which.

I've sent three or four Emails but never received a response.
Also registered and asked on an obscure drug user forum, without getting an answer though.

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I remember that I replied and I said as long as you don't really know what you have there and it's impossible for anyone of us here to analyse what you really have there the best advice is a warning not to use this stuff.

Thanks, that's reasonable and I understand that.
It is what it is, and I got what I got. Basically you never could be 100% sure what you got, unless you're doing a chemical analysis or something.

If you are really interested in ODing you should follow one of the proven guides in the PPeH or these ones here:

Amitriptyline guide

Translation from German "Selbstbestimmt Sterben - Handreichung für einen rationalen Suizid (German Edition) Jessica Düber Amitriptyline guide "Tricyclic antidepressants General info Tricyclic antidepressants are psychotropic drugs with a general mood-lifting...

www.sanctioned-suicide.net

Chloroquine guide

Translation from German "Selbstbestimmt Sterben - Handreichung für einen rationalen Suizid (German Edition) Jessica Düber Chloroquine "General info Chloroquine is a drug used for the treatment and prophylaxis of malaria and for the treatment of rheumatic diseases. Cause of death in case of...

www.sanctioned-suicide.net

Thanks for the suggestions.
I remember that I had a closer look at the Chloroquine method before. If I'm not mistaken I couldn't find a source for it, and I believe it would've been way too expensive for me anyway.
Will take a look again, also at the Amitriptyline guide.

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other proven guides:

Hypothermia & Diphenhydramine(chloride) method

Translation from the German book "Selbstbestimmtes Sterben. Sanfter Tod bei klarem Geist" Victor Niculescu Hypothermia & Diphenhydramine(chloride) "The lethal dose of Diphenhydramine(chloride) is 50mg per kg body weight. also required: Zopiclon 20 tablets Bromazepam or Triazolam 30-50...

sanctioned-suicide.net

and the Oxycodone & Fentanyl guide:

how much to OD

Would this combo be enough to cbt ? I have no tolerance on any of the substance . I would take the oxycodone orally or by snorting. 300 mg of oxycodone 40 mg of alprazolam 1 litre of 40% rum Any tips or should I add something in the mix, just to be sure, like prebagalin or something else ?

sanctioned-suicide.net

Thanks for those, I'll have a look.

 

[Letmedienow]

I've sent three or four Emails but never received a response.
Also registered and asked on an obscure drug user forum, without getting an answer though.

Hmm, well I wouldn't use them then tbh. It could be anything in those bags and the fact that they haven't responded to you is worrying that it was a scam of some sort. You don't want to end up hurt but not dead. It's so frustrating trying to ctb, I'm sorry.

 

[oneeyed]

I would inquire about getting the substances tested. Look into drug testing services, they're for harm reduction purposes. Also look into edible film squares. You can get these at health food stores and online. They're these thin squares of potatoe starch and they are meant to be filled with powedered supplements and herbs to make them easier to swallow.

 

[deepblack]

I would inquire about getting the substances tested. Look into drug testing services, they're for harm reduction purposes.

Unfortunately no chance for getting that stuff tested.

Also look into edible film squares. You can get these at health food stores and online. They're these thin squares of potatoe starch and they are meant to be filled with powedered supplements and herbs to make them easier to swallow.

Thanks for the tip, I might be able to get those.

 

[tera_forest]

I also decided OD was going to be my choice of death when I saw those posts. I'm not experienced in these but i've been doing some research. Maybe if we put our heads together we can get a better picture of what's going on?

Here's what I got so far:
- Metonitazepyne can be snorted
- Flubromazolam can be snorted as well. I've read that some RC benzos can be mixed with water and drank or taken sublingual but i'm not sure about this one. You might have to search more about this particular one

I'm inclined to think the brown powder may be the opioid as well. I was looking through photos on a clearnet site I found and some of the opioids were brown but none of the benzos were.

 

[deepblack]

For info purpose:
I just stumbled upon a thread about Flubromazolam on a drug forum, and there are comments like this one:

"Clonazolam is super strong, like 500 micrograms is a full dose. Flubromazolam is twice as potent and substantially more sedating. It's one of the very few benzos where you can OD and die pretty easily. Like if you had taken 10mg of this in your finger dip you might have died."

Almost sounds like that benzo alone is "dangerous enough".
They are saying it could be smoked, or dissolved in suitable liquids. Didn't have time to read completely through the thread yet.

EDIT:
Here's the link to that Flubromazolam thread >> https://bluelight.org/xf/threads/fl...6-years-with-the-knockout-night-nurse.892802/
Haven't read all of that, not everything's on topic. Considering those folks there are some hardcore users, that Flubromazolam seems to be kind of scary lol

 

[deepblack]

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- Flubromazolam can be snorted as well. I've read that some RC benzos can be mixed with water and drank or taken sublingual but i'm not sure about this one. You might have to search more about this particular one

Thanks for the that link!
I was absolutelly sure I've read that people were snorting this, already before I ordered that stuff. Probably even saw the very same post from your link. But after the stuff arrived I couldn't find anything like that anymore. That's why I said in tho OP "Initially I thought I could just snort the benzo as well, but meanwhile I'm pretty sure I can't do that."
Still need to research, or hope somebody with knowledge might give advise.
Vomitting could turn out being an issue, too.

I also decided OD was going to be my choice ...

May I ask if you already have what you're looking for, or are you still searching?

 

[tera_forest]

For info purpose:
I just stumbled upon a thread about Flubromazolam on a drug forum, and there are comments like this one:

"Clonazolam is super strong, like 500 micrograms is a full dose. Flubromazolam is twice as potent and substantially more sedating. It's one of the very few benzos where you can OD and die pretty easily. Like if you had taken 10mg of this in your finger dip you might have died."

Almost sounds like that benzo alone is "dangerous enough".
They are saying it could be smoked, or dissolved in suitable liquids. Didn't have time to read completely through the thread yet.

EDIT:
Here's the link to that Flubromazolam thread >> https://bluelight.org/xf/threads/fl...6-years-with-the-knockout-night-nurse.892802/
Haven't read all of that, not everything's on topic. Considering those folks there are some hardcore users, that Flubromazolam seems to be kind of scary lol

Wow that's super strong. I had my eye on bromazolam but I think i'll go with flubromaz instead

Thanks for the that link!
I was absolutelly sure I've read that people were snorting this, already before I ordered that stuff. Probably even saw the very same post from your link. But after the stuff arrived I couldn't find anything like that anymore. That's why I said in tho OP "Initially I thought I could just snort the benzo as well, but meanwhile I'm pretty sure I can't do that."
Still need to research, or hope somebody with knowledge might give advise.
Vomitting could turn out being an issue, too.

Glad it helped! It's difficult to find info on these especially if you know nothing about chemicals. I get the feeling that people aren't as willing to talk about drugs if you're not in the scene or know nothing about it.
And yeah, vomit can be an issue. I think laying on your back would help if you don't have antiemetics. Some OD die by choking on their vomit in this way

May I ask if you already have what you're looking for, or are you still searching?

I'm still searching. I found a reputable benzo seller on the clearnet but i'm having trouble finding one that sells potent opioids. Some sites are down, selectively scamming, or outright sketchy so i'm looking to buy from the darknet
How did you find your source?

 

[deepblack]

Glad it helped! It's difficult to find info on these especially if you know nothing about chemicals. I get the feeling that people aren't as willing to talk about drugs if you're not in the scene or know nothing about it.

This is so true! That's one reason why I pretty much gave up looking for infos on the RC subreddit. And the topics there quite often end up in conversations between two or three guys, where you'd need to have a chemistry diploma to be able to follow what they're talking about

And yeah, vomit can be an issue. I think laying on your back would help if you don't have antiemetics. Some OD die by choking on their vomit in this way

No chance for me to get antiemetics.
If you're already unconscious it might not really matter anymore. But if conscious it surely wouldn't be funny. Somebody once posted about an antiemetic side effect of Mirtazapine
Accidently I had Mirtazapine as prescribed medication for quite some time. I found a pack with exactly one pill (45mg) left in it. From what he said that should be enough for the antiemetic side effect. So I'll probably take that beforehand, helpful or not.
Here's a link he posted >> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16632163/

I'm still searching. I found a reputable benzo seller on the clearnet but i'm having trouble finding one that sells potent opioids. Some sites are down, selectively scamming, or outright sketchy so i'm looking to buy from the darknet
How did you find your source?

It was tough to find a source, especially because I only had less than 100 bucks to spend. That's also the reason why I strictly wanted to avoid going to the darknet. I got zero experience there and it's probably the best place on Earth for being scammed (at least a lot of people say so). I just couldn't risk losing the last little money I had for nothing, and only had one attempt.
So basically I had to search my a*s off for a clearnet source where everything fits together. What to get, at what cost, delivery (cost and time), payment, ...
When @Proper Overdoser was still active here he pointed me to like three options, and if I'm not mistaken it's even one of his suggestions where I ordered the stuff in the end.

I'll PM you, but it extremely depends on where you're located. I'm in Central Europe, if you're living somewhere overseas it might be useless for you.

 

[deepblack]

Thought I'll post a photo of the sachets, maybe somebody is able to scan the QR codes

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

Unfortunately no chance for getting that stuff tested.

These people accept mailed-in samples from anywhere in the world and will test it for free. They'll tell you everything in it, including the percentages of every ingredient it contains.

Main Page - Get Your Drugs Tested

getyourdrugstested.com

 

[deepblack]

These people accept mailed-in samples from anywhere in the world and will test it for free. They'll tell you everything in it, including the percentages of every ingredient it contains.

Main Page - Get Your Drugs Tested

getyourdrugstested.com

Thanks for the hint, I wasn't aware it could be tested this way and even for free.
Still no way of doing that.

I have two options:
a) trying to CTB with that stuff within the next days
b) take a sleeping bag, a backpack with a few things, sit on my E-Bike and disappear from where I am (without destination). Of course taking the stuff with me, in order to make use of it later on. Or finding a bridge and try to jump or something.

Either way, no chance for testing.