Method How I would sedate myself into death, legally. I study pharmacology.

[Proper Overdoser]

So I made a thread that is now flooded with a million different ways to have a sedated death (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/whats-in-your-suicide-kit-i-study-pharmacology.113882/page-4) with legal research chemicals that can be bought online, since I keep getting asked how I would do it, here are some of the ways that I would use if I didn't have to kill myself when police are at my door. I will keep this one more simple since there are so many ways depending on the RC's you can find and I want it to be very comprehensible. Basically all items below can easily be acquired online in RC markets or online pharmacies that ship worldwide.

These ones don't use opioids so there is no nausea.
1. 10mL or more of GBL/GHB/1,4 BDO + Megadose benzo + optionally a little alcohol or other sedatives mentioned here.

2. 10g of Carisoprodol (20 tablets) + Megadose benzo + optionally a little alcohol or other sedatives mentioned here.

3. 1g of Methylmethaqualone or Nitromethaqualone + Megadose benzo + optional sedatives ...

4. 10g Phenprobamate + Megadose benzo + 4F-Phenibut + optional sedatives ...

5. 10g Carisoprodol + 100mg Zopiclone or 30mg Eszopiclone + 200mg Baclofen + 600mg Pregabalin (indian pharms method)

6. 10g Chloral Hydrate + Megadose benzo + 1-2 other sedatives mentioned above.

7. 3-6g Clomethiazole or its analogues + Megadose benzo + 4F-Phenibut (Keith Moon died from solely 6g of Clomethiazole capsules and he had a significant tolerance to them from his addiction) make sure to encapsulate your Clomethiazole as it is very corrosive, you may need 20 capsules for 6g,

Opioid methods:
To avoid opioid nausea while awake, always take the opioid when sedation from your sedative of choice takes effect, about 10-30 mins later, or buy acid-resistant enteric coated capsules to put the opioid in, and then you can dose it with the sedatives all at the same time, as this will make the opioid release after 2h or so when it reaches the intestines.

1. 30-60mg (1-2 small lines) of a -zene or -pyne based opioid (Metonitazene, Protonitazepyne, Metonitazepyne) and megadose benzo and/or other sedatives just before snorting the opioid if you are snorting it. For reference 2mg of Fentanyl is lethal, one small line is 30-60mg.

2. 100-500mg Brorphine + Megadose benzo + antiemetic like Diphenhydramine + optional sedatives ...

3. 1000mg 2-MAP-237 (ORALLY IN ENTERIC, ACID RESISTANT CAPSULES ONLY) + Megadose benzo + antiemetic + optional sedatives ...

If you are going to use SN:
I personally would not use SN but if you are going to do it this way, I would copy the popular SN guides but replace the Ibuprofen/Paracetamol part with a strong sedative or Ketamine analogue. Below are my recommendations, mixing them together would be more effective so I'll just list them in categories. If mixing then one could significantly lower the dose of the sedative, but don't lower the dose of the Ketamine analogue as that is honestly the best option.

1. 200-300mg FXE or Ketamine, 300-400mg 2-FDCK, 100mg DCK, 20mg O-PCE are arguably the best options and will put you in a K-Hole for your SN overdose. Basically you will go into an unconscious dream-like state and you will be unable to feel pain, this is why Ketamine is used during surgeries.

2. 2000mg or more of Carisoprodol

3. 2-6g of Clomethiazole

3. 4-10g Phenprobamate

4. Megadose benzos

5. Add any other sedatives mentioned above in this post.

I tried to organize the combos by preference (lethal guarantee and peaceful death) and also separated the combos by items that can all be bought from a single vendor, but feel free to ask questions if you have your own prescriptions that could replace the sedatives, or any tweaks you would want to make to any of these methods.
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[lebrodude]

Would combining ketamine with a huge dose of benzos (for example Valium) be a good/bad idea for SN?

 

[Yavannah]

ty for your time and effort to write all ot this down
i've thought about 4 BDO + Xanax + alcohol combo
but when i was researching yesterday i've found accounts of people saying that the substance has no effect on them and that a dose of 10ml didnt make them pass out..
have you heard of this before?

 

[Proper Overdoser]

Would combining ketamine with a huge dose of benzos (for example Valium) be a good/bad idea for SN?

As stated in the post, that would probably be the best way to do the SN method

ty for your time and effort to write all ot this down
i've thought about 4 BDO + Xanax + alcohol combo
but when i was researching yesterday i've found accounts of people saying that the substance has no effect on them and that a dose of 10ml didnt make them pass out..
have you heard of this before?

If 10mL didn't work for them that shit is fake. 3mL of BDO would have me floored back when they sold that stuff on eBay. Make sure your stuff is legit. BDO/GHB is probably the most lethal sedative in this entire list by far

 

[qwerty1969]

Hi, thanks for all your efforts.

I have the following:

1. Fluoxetine 20mg capsules

2. Clonazepam tablets, not sure of mg amount

3. Olazapine 5mg tablets

Could I use any of these along with Methylmethaqualone to suicide and if so can you please provide me (in PMs) with the Chinese source for the MMQ as I am in the Philippines and I think this source would work better for me. If the stuff that I have is of little use I will go for the Protonitazene too. How much of the MMQ and Proto should I order?

I sincerely hope you can help me with all of this.

Actually, I am interested in getting hold of MMQ and possibly the Proto ASAP. Is it possible to get this via UPS from China, U.S. or Canada? Price is of no concern for me.

You can answer regarding sources in PM if better for all concerned.

 

[Proper Overdoser]

Hi, thanks for all your efforts.

I have the following:

1. Fluoxetine 20mg capsules

2. Clonazepam 5mg tablets

3. Olazapine 5mg tablets

Could I use any of these along with Methylmethaqualone to suicide and if so can you please provide me (in PMs) with the Chinese source for the MMQ as I am in the Philippines and I think this source would work better for me. If the stuff that I have is of little use I will go for the Protonitazene too. How much of the MMQ and Proto should I order?

I sincerely hope you can help me with all of this.

Actually, I am interested in getting hold of MMQ and possibly the Proto ASAP. Is it possible to get this via UPS from China, U.S. or Canada? Price is of no concern for me.

You can answer regarding sources in PM if better for all concerned.

Clonazepam 5mg doesn't exist, the max dose is 2mg, and 3mg would make you forget an entire 24h. So double check that.

Anyways, the Fluoxetine is useless for this stuff, but a mix of Clonazepam with Carisoprodol, Chloral Hydrate, Methylmethaqualone, Nitromethaqualone or Phenprobamate, and a little bit of alcohol, would be lethal. You can also see if Codeine is OTC where you live, a small amount of Codeine (100-200mg) would help out without being nauseating. Carisoprodol is also likely OTC in pharmacies there, but I don't know. I just know when I went to Colombia, prescriptions weren't required in half the pharmacies for stuff like Codeine, Dihydrocodeine or Carisoprodol.

Chloral Hydrate is arguably the easiest item on that list for you to get, comes from china too. Also you can add olanazapine like a cherry on top, but if you want to go out with some euphoria and happiness the Olazapine will prevent that.

 

[poa.alpina]

I tried asking in the previous thread.
In it you mentioned knocking oneself out with 100mg benadryl + vodka, an hour before SN drink. I cannot get benadryl here, but a counterpart doxylamine.

My question is, will doxylamine have similiar results in this setup?

 

[Proper Overdoser]

I tried asking in the previous thread.
In it you mentioned knocking oneself out with 100mg benadryl + vodka, an hour before SN drink. I cannot get benadryl here, but a counterpart doxylamine.

My question is, will doxylamine have similiar results in this setup?

Yes Doxylamine has stronger antiemetic and also stronger sedating effects than Benadryl, both are H1 antagonist antihistamines, I think Doxylamine is 2x stronger by weight though, the main difference is that it is more sedating. Also if I said that, that is only a bare minimum for sedation, maybe for someone who doesn't have prescription medicines or doesn't want to bother with RC's or at least Chloral Hydrate which is sold online on a popular chinese website that sells all sorts of stuff like a chinese ebay, no need for bitcoin like with most RC sites and Chloral Hydrate is a very, very strong sedative. It's almost impossible to stay awake after +2g of that stuff. There are much better options to ensure you are truly sedated and asleep for it all.

But I advise against using alcohol with SN since both will cause nausea, specially any useful, sedating dose of alcohol.

 

[poa.alpina]

Yes Doxylamine has stronger antiemetic and also stronger sedating effects than Benadryl, both are H1 antagonist antihistamines, I think Doxylamine is 2x stronger by weight though, the main difference is that it is more sedating. Also if I said that, that is only a bare minimum for sedation, maybe for someone who doesn't have prescription medicines or doesn't want to bother with RC's or at least Chloral Hydrate which is sold online on a popular chinese website that sells all sorts of stuff like a chinese ebay, no need for bitcoin like with most RC sitesm and Chloral Hydrate is a very, very strong sedative. It's almost impossible to stay awake after +2g of that stuff. There are much better options to ensure you are truly sedated and asleep for it all.

Thank you so much for answering :)
For now i plan to wash it down with decent amounts of alcohol, but i will also look into what you suggested here, for an even smoother ride.

I assume this drug (doxylamine) with alcohol is also to be taken 1 hour before, like benadryl.

 

[Proper Overdoser]

Thank you so much for answering :)
For now i plan to wash it down with decent amounts of alcohol, but i will also look into what you suggested here, for an even smoother ride.

I assume this drug (doxylamine) with alcohol is also to be taken 1 hour before, like benadryl.

1h before but with high doses you may feel sedation at the 30min mark so as long as it has been 30mins you're good. Besides alcohol effects peak at the 30min-1h mark, usually absorbs twice as fast as most other "average" drugs. But def look into other sedatives you could add, maybe see if Codeine cough syrup is OTC where you are, 100-200mg is a good non-nauseating dose. Or look into sedatives online.

 

[dimstar]

If your going with sn alchohol is not recommended. Besides breaking the liquid fast that's recommended alchohol will make you alot more likely to vomit and have a failed attempt. That's why the 50ml of water mix is always mentioned so that sn can absorb faster and if you do throw up more of the solution will be kept down. You want as little in your stomach as possible, it's not even recommended to have a chaser drink after the 50ml. It still could be possible but you'll be significantly lowering your chances.

 

[Proper Overdoser]

If your going with sn alchohol is not recommended. Besides breaking the liquid fast that's recommended alchohol will make you alot more likely to vomit and have a failed attempt. That's why the 50ml of water mix is always mentioned so that sn can absorb faster and if you do throw up more of the solution will be kept down. You want as little in your stomach as possible, it's not even recommended to have a chaser drink after the 50ml. It still could be possible but you'll be significantly lowering your chances.

I made sure to not include alcohol in the SN section of my recommendations on this post, if I mentioned alcohol as a sedative to someone here it was probably on accident lol thanks for correcting me if that is the case.

 

[poa.alpina]

I made sure to not include alcohol in the SN section of my recommendations on this post, if I mentioned alcohol as a sedative to someone here it was probably on accident lol thanks for correcting me if that is the case.

It's from the previous thread you linked, not this one. From a reply to someone else.
EDIT: this one, second to last

 

[Proper Overdoser]

It's from the previous thread you linked, not this one. From a reply to someone else.
EDIT: this one, second to last

Ahh okay yeah that makes sense. As I said more recently on here yeah I was not sure whether or not to include alcohol on here for reasons stated just above, and that was written before I knew more about the SN method and the specifics, so yeah any useful amount of alcohol could ruin it with the nausea, for this same reason that I didn't include opioids in the SN part of this thread. What country are you in to see if RC's are controlled there?

Even if RC's were controlled, indian meds have high success rates in small amounts to most countries, since most countries have laws on importing medication. Like in the USA it is allowed to import medication that can last up to 3 months, with a prescription but this law is probably the only reason indian meds make it through in small amounts.

And indian meds includes Carisoprodol, which is quite lethal on its own but is a strong sedative and euphoriant, but doesn't cause nausea. They can also provide most antiemetic medicines as well since it's regular indian online pharmacies. I sometimes add innocuous medicines like Amoxicillin when I order narcotics and it seems to help the success rate through customs. But antiemetics like Domperidone and Metoclopramide would also probably work as innocuous medicines, maybe customs will think it's some stressed out cancer patient lol.

 

[NoLoveNoHope]

Is it alright if I PM you to discuss the availability of RCs in my country?

 

[Proper Overdoser]

Is it alright if I PM you to discuss the availability of RCs in my country?

Sure but since your account is so new I can't help you acquire them.

 

[ctb7767]

How likely is it for GBL and Xanax to CTB?

 

[Proper Overdoser]

How likely is it for GBL and Xanax to CTB?

GBL or GHB and any other prodrug for GHB like 1,4 BDO is almost guaranteed lethal in doses of 10-20mL/grams rec doses are 1-2mL so it makes it one of the deadliest drugs when comparing rec doses with deadly doses, which is the same metric that made Nembutal the euthanasia drug it has become. Adding Xanax to it would lower the needed dose and make things more guaranteed. It is very, very likely if done right. A heroic dose of both at night, in your bed would suffice.

It would also be very peaceful and you'd fall asleep rather fast.

 

[ctb7767]

GBL or GHB and any other prodrug for GHB like 1,4 BDO is almost guaranteed lethal in doses of 10-20mL/grams rec doses are 1-2mL so it makes it one of the deadliest drugs when comparing rec doses with deadly doses, which is the same metric that made Nembutal the euthanasia drug it has become. Adding Xanax to it would lower the needed dose and make things more guaranteed. It is very, very likely if done right. A heroic dose of both at night, in your bed would suffice.

It would also be very peaceful and you'd fall asleep rather fast.

why do you think it's not more common here? Why so much about SN?
man i was ready to go with IG, now i want to get some GBL

 

[qwerty1969]

How does this sound to you regarding an SN protocol?

Codeine 200mg, Clonazepam 4mg, and Olazapine 5mg then 25 grams SN approx 30 mins later?

 

[Proper Overdoser]

why do you think it's not more common here? Why so much about SN?
man i was ready to go with IG, now i want to get some GBL

To be honest I have no idea, GBL and 1,4 BDO used to be widely sold on eBay and Amazon. Now they're kind of hard to find. My best guess is that it's because GHB is kind of an obscure drug on its own, making GBL and 1,4 BDO (just prodrugs for GHB, meaning your body turns them into GHB) even more obscure.

I mean I think that behind barbiturates, GHB and its prodrugs were always the most likely to produce an accidental overdose when taking a dose that the person thought they could handle, or just from poorly measured doses, or frequent redosing. Specially when mixed with other sedatives, anyone that takes GHB is always advised on forums about not mixing them with other sedatives because the risk for death then becomes very real, so many people have died from mixing GHB and alcohol, or simply redosing GHB a little too much.

Opioids only have the number 1 spot with accidental overdoses because their use is so widespread, if there was an equal number of barbiturate and ghb users, those groups would have many more accidental deaths than the opioid users, assuming that everyone has pure drugs and knew what doses they were taking. I have mixed xanax with percocet several times, but GHB is such an intense high in only slightly elevated doses from rec ones that I would never think about mixing it with any sedative.

 

[ctb7767]

ok, I don't have experience with this stuff. Does alcohol tolerance impact this at all? I know they both act on GABA, also if I take a lot will it just knock me out or is there risk of me doing something stupid like calling somebody or trying to drive my car.

 

[Proper Overdoser]

ok, I don't have experience with this stuff. Does alcohol tolerance impact this at all? I know they both act on GABA, also if I take a lot will it just knock me out or is there risk of me doing something stupid like calling somebody or trying to drive my car.

Alcohol tolerance could affect the other sedatives with some cross-tolerance but it wouldn't be too significant unless your alcohol tolerance were sky-high. I have seen dudes that can operate a forklift while drunk pass out from just 2mg Xanax so ... but GHB affects a different receptor aptly named the GHB receptor, it also affects GABA-B but nothing too notable and Alcohol affects GABA-A so it wouldn't matter anyways.

So it could affect the other sedatives but just know that the cross-tolerance is only partial, and far from complete cross-tolerance as if it had the same pharmacology/mechanisms (like the cross tolerance from one benzo to another which would be complete, not partial) Since all the other sedatives I mentioned act on GABA-A though, I would take 25% or so more than mentioned if your alcohol tolerance is notable. I mean when I was in rehab my roommate was an alcoholic, yet 1mg of Lorazepam (a low-medium dose by most standards) would knock him out like a light when they gave it to him at night-time, but better safe than sorry and added sedation never bothered anyone that wanted a deep sleep.

 

[novem]

ok, I don't have experience with this stuff. Does alcohol tolerance impact this at all? I know they both act on GABA, also if I take a lot will it just knock me out or is there risk of me doing something stupid like calling somebody or trying to drive my car.

Looks like they say so here:

Alcohol

Ethanol (also known as ethyl alcohol, ethyl hydroxide, drinking alcohol or simply alcohol) is a depressant substance of the alcohol class. It is the primary psychoactive component of alcoholic drinks, liquors and spirits; making it the second-most widely used recreational substance globally...

psychonautwiki.org

Alcohol presents cross-tolerance with all GABAgenic depressants, meaning that after the consumption of alcohol all depressants will have a reduced effect.

 

[User00]

Would domperidone, Ibuprofen, Alprazolam and Pantoprazole work, using SN after taking them? I just cant get the ketamine thing its illegal here.

 

[sparkle]

Getting hold of some BDO shouldn't be difficult, would 20mL alone be enough for a lethal OD? Or would it best be combined with heroin and/or bromazolam or a similar RC?

 

[lukas19]

So I made a thread that is now flooded with a million different ways to have a sedated death (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/whats-in-your-suicide-kit-i-study-pharmacology.113882/page-4) with legal research chemicals that can be bought online, since I keep getting asked how I would do it, here are some of the ways that I would use if I didn't have to kill myself when police are at my door. I will keep this one more simple since there are so many ways depending on the RC's you can find and I want it to be very comprehensible. Basically all items below can easily be acquired online in RC markets or online pharmacies that ship worldwide.

These ones don't use opioids so there is no nausea.
1. 10mL or more of GBL/GHB/1,4 BDO + Megadose benzo + optionally a little alcohol or other sedatives mentioned here.

2. 10g of Carisoprodol (20 tablets) + Megadose benzo + optionally a little alcohol or other sedatives mentioned here.

3. 1g of Methylmethaqualone or Nitromethaqualone + Megadose benzo + optional sedatives ...

4. 10g Phenprobamate + Megadose benzo + 4F-Phenibut + optional sedatives ...

5. 10g Carisoprodol + 100mg Zopiclone or 30mg Eszopiclone + 200mg Baclofen + 600mg Pregabalin (indian pharms method)

6. 10g Chloral Hydrate + Megadose benzo + 1-2 other sedatives mentioned above.

7. 3-6g Clomethiazole or its analogues + Megadose benzo + 4F-Phenibut (Keith Moon died from solely 6g of Clomethiazole capsules and he had a significant tolerance to them from his addiction) make sure to encapsulate your Clomethiazole as it is very corrosive, you may need 20 capsules for 6g,

Opioid methods:
To avoid opioid nausea while awake, always take the opioid when sedation from your sedative of choice takes effect, about 10-30 mins later, or buy acid-resistant enteric coated capsules to put the opioid in, and then you can dose it with the sedatives all at the same time, as this will make the opioid release after 2h or so when it reaches the intestines.

1. 30-60mg (1-2 small lines) of a -zene or -pyne based opioid (Metonitazene, Protonitazepyne, Metonitazepyne) and megadose benzo and/or other sedatives just before snorting the opioid if you are snorting it. For reference 2mg of Fentanyl is lethal, one small line is 30-60mg.

2. 100-500mg Brorphine + Megadose benzo + antiemetic like Diphenhydramine + optional sedatives ...

3. 1000mg 2-MAP-237 (ORALLY IN ENTERIC, ACID RESISTANT CAPSULES ONLY) + Megadose benzo + antiemetic + optional sedatives ...

If you are going to use SN:
I personally would not use SN but if you are going to do it this way, I would copy the popular SN guides but replace the Ibuprofen/Paracetamol part with a strong sedative or Ketamine analogue. Below are my recommendations, mixing them together would be more effective so I'll just list them in categories. If mixing then one could significantly lower the dose of the sedative, but don't lower the dose of the Ketamine analogue as that is honestly the best option.

1. 200-300mg FXE or Ketamine, 300-400mg 2-FDCK, 100mg DCK, 20mg O-PCE are arguably the best options and will put you in a K-Hole for your SN overdose. Basically you will go into an unconscious dream-like state and you will be unable to feel pain, this is why Ketamine is used during surgeries.

2. 2000mg or more of Carisoprodol

3. 2-6g of Clomethiazole

3. 4-10g Phenprobamate

4. Megadose benzos

5. Add any other sedatives mentioned above in this post.

I tried to organize the combos by preference (lethal guarantee and peaceful death) and also separated the combos by items that can all be bought from a single vendor, but feel free to ask questions if you have your own prescriptions that could replace the sedatives, or any tweaks you would want to make to any of these methods.
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Would it be good to take an AE beforehand? Thanks

 

[Proper Overdoser]

Would it be good to take an AE beforehand? Thanks

None of the sedatives mentioned cause nausea except for the opioids, but it explicitly says so in the post. So it could be useful for anyone using opioids but it isn't necessary if done correctly

Getting hold of some BDO shouldn't be difficult, would 20mL alone be enough for a lethal OD? Or would it best be combined with heroin and/or bromazolam or a similar RC?

20mL alone is probably deadly on its own, make sure it is mixed well with another drink though since it can be irritating to your throat, and so it isn't nauseating. But best if mixed with a benzo like Bromazolam, wouldn't recommend heroin or any opioid as those can cause nausea if you don't know how to dose them correctly, and even then a non-nauseating dose of an opioid isn't as useful as a heroic dose of a benzo like Bromazolam.

Looks like they say so here:

Alcohol

Ethanol (also known as ethyl alcohol, ethyl hydroxide, drinking alcohol or simply alcohol) is a depressant substance of the alcohol class. It is the primary psychoactive component of alcoholic drinks, liquors and spirits; making it the second-most widely used recreational substance globally...

psychonautwiki.org

That site tends to overgeneralize. As I said it could lead to cross-tolerance but only with GABA-A agonists and the cross-tolerance is only partial because of different mechanisms, it doesn't touch the GHB receptor though so that would be impossible for any cross-tolerance.

Would domperidone, Ibuprofen, Alprazolam and Pantoprazole work, using SN after taking them? I just cant get the ketamine thing its illegal here.

Yeah but if Alprazolam is the only sedative you have, add some Doxylamine or Diphenhydramine which is OTC and will make it a lot more sedating, also both are antiemetics. Personally I find it easy to stay awake solely on benzos but never done a heroic dose only high doses.

Getting hold of some BDO shouldn't be difficult, would 20mL alone be enough for a lethal OD? Or would it best be combined with heroin and/or bromazolam or a similar RC?

Also it really isn't that difficult, just gotta weed out the scammers from the legit clandestine labs and chemical vendors, there are some USA based vendors with BDO but only a handful you're better off searching good Chinese sources and do your research by checking reviews before ordering from any clandestine lab or generic chemical vendor.

It is a bit easier to get Chloral Hydrate though and the OD from that is 5-10g (better stick to 10-15g to be safe though) so a mix of the two would be optimal and the two can be sourced in China.

 

[ShuttingDown]

2. 10g of Carisoprodol (20 tablets) + Megadose benzo + optionally a little alcohol or other sedatives mentioned here

I think I can get all this very easily, my questions are-Will it work 100%? How abt peacefulness? Which benzos? (I have klonopins abt 20mg rn can get others if needed) other sedative pls mentions, my weight around 48kgs M, lastly time to fall unconscious and followed by death

 

[ghostgirl321]

Would you recommend snorting ketamine before taking SN? or mixing it? sorry for the dumb question haha