Resource SN megathread

[trynacbt]

So (after 2 days of regimen) 30g or 10g stat dose? Brave the EPS risk or not? Should I create a poll?

Stat dose is the most important. You'd only have to brave any risks for an hour. I'd say 30mg but the choice is yours.

 

[Squiddy]

What's SN?

Sodium nitrite

 

[Roger]

What's SN?

Elementary, my dear.

 

[Nem]

Easy to get from doctors as it is such a harmless drug.

You mean meto is harmless? My first dr flat out refused to prescribe it because it was too dangerous. There have been humongous lawsuits over people's lives ruined from that stuff...if you are referring to meto. It seems harmless but it works like an antipsychotic drug and basically it is
Peace/hugs

 

[Stan]

You mean meto is harmless? My first dr flat out refused to prescribe it because it was too dangerous. There have been humongous lawsuits over people's lives ruined from that stuff...if you are referring to meto. It seems harmless but it works like an antipsychotic drug and basically it is

Maybe a poor choice of words so I accept that. I would guess my mind (at that time) was in comparison mode that if you went in looking for an opioid then a doctor would immediately react. If you went to your doctor and you had no history of medications relating to MH issues, based on the the number of stories on this forum, it was fairly straight forward. I personally am not using Meto. I am in the position that I was able to go to a pharmacy and get my regimen drugs otc which unfortunately is not the way for those outside of the UK.

 

[Crystal Labeija]

Why duct tape your arms?

To prevent my body from removing the duck tape. Anyway, that's an old post and my plans changed.

 

[BleedingHeart]

I've ordered from Loudwolf- I live in the US.
It doesn't take long at all to get- probably a week or less.
The bottle came in a yellow envelope- didn't say anything about hazardous material on it.

Did you order From them off Etsy? The listing says they have a hazard label on it in compliance with rules. It's still from LW but I'm hoping it will come like yours with no label of hazard.

 

[littlelady774]

Did you order From them off Etsy? The listing says they have a hazard label on it in compliance with rules. It's still from LW but I'm hoping it will come like yours with no label of hazard.

No, I got it from amazon

 

[Wyntergirl]

This is my schedule. Does this look right?
Day 1:
3:30 PM 10 mg meto
11:30 PM 10 mg meto
Day 2:
7:30 AM 10 mg meto
3:30 PM 10 mg meto
11:30 PM 10 mg meto
Day 3:
7:30 AM 10 mg meto
3:30 PM 10 mg meto
11:30 PM 10 mg meto
Day 4:
7:30 AM 20-30 mg meto
7:45 AM 800mg Tagamet
7:50 AM 1500 mg Tylenol
8:30 AM 20-25 g SN in 75-100 mL water

 

[Lethe]

All that Meto looks overkill (pun not intended). Should only need 60mg for the regimen plus 30mg more for the final stat dose.

 

[9137890]

How long is the max time to ctb with SN? 8 hours I believe?

The S. wiki says now: "While the PPH still incorrectly recommends using H2 receptor antagonists, such as cimetidine and ranitidine, not using them will result in a more peaceful death, because of formation of nitric oxide gas in acidic gastric environment, as shown in pathway A".

Can anyone please explain me that? Should I use that or not?

 

[BleedingHeart]

How long is the max time to ctb with SN? 8 hours I believe?

The S. wiki says now: "While the PPH still incorrectly recommends using H2 receptor antagonists, such as cimetidine and ranitidine, not using them will result in a more peaceful death, because of formation of nitric oxide gas in acidic gastric environment, as shown in pathway A".

Can anyone please explain me that? Should I use that or not?

All this time I've thought we should be using cimetidine (Tagamet)... I'm curious now too. Info seems to fluctuate and change a lot; hard to nail down a routine

 

[heylightiforgot]

Pure speculation, but I've been wondering: my health is so poor -- for reference, I 'react' to and become dizzy/light-headeded from something as simple as being exposed to the smell of solvents, handsoaps, toothpaste etc. (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity); physically, my body can't endure the stress of walking more than 5 minutes or so; I am underweight etc., can't take simple medications and supplements (iBuprofen etc.) because of the 'stress' they place on my body, cannot have a single drink of alcohol. I also self-medicate with steroids (hydrocortisone) and being pulled off it would send me into an adrenal crisis rapidly.

Is it possible that if I ingest SN and even if I vomit it/am found, that I will likely die anyway because I am so sick and in such a physically precarious state? I had been feeling more emboldened recently about just going through with it, but am getting a little nervous about the possibility of ending up in a ward again this sick (and my family would definitely leave me there to rot this time). But part of me also thinks that the poison would be such an assault on an already-frail walking-corpse that maybe I don't need to worry?

 

[jgm63]

Pure speculation, but I've been wondering: my health is so poor -- for reference, I 'react' to and become dizzy/light-headeded from something as simple as being exposed to the smell of solvents, handsoaps, toothpaste etc. (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity); physically, my body can't endure the stress of walking more than 5 minutes or so; I am underweight etc., can't take simple medications and supplements (iBuprofen etc.) because of the 'stress' they place on my body, cannot have a single drink of alcohol. I also self-medicate with steroids (hydrocortisone) and being pulled off it would send me into an adrenal crisis rapidly.

Is it possible that if I ingest SN and even if I vomit it/am found, that I will likely die anyway because I am so sick and in such a physically precarious state? I had been feeling more emboldened recently about just going through with it, but am getting a little nervous about the possibility of ending up in a ward again this sick (and my family would definitely leave me there to rot this time). But part of me also thinks that the poison would be such an assault on an already-frail walking-corpse that maybe I don't need to worry?

So would you not be able to use an anti-emetic ?
Have you tried searching online for "primperan" (which is metoclopramide) ?

 

[heylightiforgot]

So would you not be able to use an anti-emetic ?
Have you tried searching online for "primperan" (which is metoclopramide) ?

I would, yeah. I mean, I can take medications, but I tend to react to the fillers in them (lactose, starch etc. all make me feel ill), but if it's only for an hour I can grin and bare it.

 

[jgm63]

I would, yeah. I mean, I can take medications, but I tend to react to the fillers in them (lactose, starch etc. all make me feel ill), but if it's only for an hour I can grin and bare it.

ok.....
Overall I suppose only you can weigh up the various factors and come to a decision....
So perhaps you would go with the "stat" method for taking the anti-emetic....
b.t.w. the following thread is a good summary for SN :

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-a-comprehensive-guide-including-method.25148/

 

[heylightiforgot]

ok.....
Overall I suppose only you can weigh up the various factors and come to a decision....
So perhaps you would go with the "stat" method for taking the anti-emetic....
b.t.w. the following thread is a good summary for SN :

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-a-comprehensive-guide-including-method.25148/

Yeah I'd only do stat. And I have done a lot of research on SN. But I guess just speculating whether in someone with extremely poor health, it would kill regardless if they're found/saved.

 

[Stan]

All this time I've thought we should be using cimetidine (Tagamet)... I'm curious now too. Info seems to fluctuate and change a lot; hard to nail down a routine

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-a-comprehensive-guide-including-method.25148/page-3

read post #77

 

[Daniela]

How long is the max time to ctb with SN? 8 hours I believe?

The S. wiki says now: "While the PPH still incorrectly recommends using H2 receptor antagonists, such as cimetidine and ranitidine, not using them will result in a more peaceful death, because of formation of nitric oxide gas in acidic gastric environment, as shown in pathway A".

Can anyone please explain me that? Should I use that or not?

"With respect to gastric nitric oxide, the widespread use of H2blockers or proton-pump inhibitors to prevent gastric lesions in the ICU will increase gastric pH, subsequently decreasing stomach nitrite [a.k.a. nitric oxide] reduction." (https://anesthesiology.pubs.asahq.org/article.aspx?articleid=2085806)

"...basically, when SN hits your stomach, the acid there works to convert it into other things such as regular table salt, Nitric oxide, Sodium Nitrate and water. None of those are really what you want. So reducing [stomach acid] prevents SN being converted to something else? Yes, correct. Well how do we minimise this? It needs something to neutralise the [stomach acid].
More commonly you want to create a chemical reaction like this, Mg(OH)2(s) + 2HCl(aq) → 2H2O(l) + MgCl2(aq). [In plain English, I think: Magnesium hydroxide + [stomach acid] → water with extra hydrogen molecules added to it + Magnesium chloride]

...what you need is an antacid with magnesium hydroxide in it. Why do you recommend that one over others? Well there are a number of other alkali that neutralise stomach acid, but this is the most benign on the list and has minimal to no conflict with other medications. It is generally known as Milk of Magnesia. Where do you find that? Any regular pharmacy without prescription. Can I use other non prescription antacid? Yes you can, I just stated Milk of Magnesia as it was the easiest when looking at some other drug interactions. But most are simple and cause no adverse effects."

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-a-comprehensive-guide-including-method.25148/post-457902

I may be dense but to sum up:

H2blockers (ranitidine, etc) increase stomach PH which means the stomach keeps producing nitric oxide

SN will convert into nitric oxide unless stomach acid production is reduced

@Stan recommends getting an otc heartburn drug like Maloox (which contains magnesium hydroxide), which appears to reduce stomach acid without increasing the nitric oxide production

Please let me know what I've gotten wrong

 

[Neurodamaged2]

Over the past few years, and especially few months, my brain / body has been taking a lot of damage from drugs and ECT. It seems to me like alot of medications simply don't work on me very well anymore. I would bet that that's due to damaged receptors, etc in my brain, or 'tolerance' from having used it before, but the result is the same. Benzos used to make me very sedated and could make me sleep easily, now the sedation is barely noticeable and I often can't sleep even with benzos. For example, at night I take valerian root, melatonin, doxylamine, zopiclone and clonazepam, and I often get less than 6 hours sleep. I've also tried Olanzapine, Seroquel, Latuda, Welbutrin and Adderall. Recently, drugs don't seem to have much of an effect on me.

Thus, even though I'd like to take SN and a bunch of benzos to make me sleep, there doesn't seem to be anything that actually WILL put me in a drug comatose sleep. I could use some help or suggestions with this. Even mixing alcohol with benzos lately doesn't seem to do anything at all, it's like I've broken my brains ability to be affected by benzos or alcohol or anything, it's weird.

 

[Stan]

I'm thinking of using this . However milk of magnesia is also a laxative, I've never in my life used any laxative and I don't reallt want to shit the bed whilst I'm trying to relax and let SN do it's thing, so I'm not sure what to go for

It takes 6 hours minimum for milk of magnesia to have a reaction as a laxative.

 

[Daniela]

It takes 6 hours minimum for milk of magnesia to have a reaction as a laxative.

Possibly a stupid question:

most OTC antiacids (that aren't histamine blockers) contain sugar in one form or other (saccharine, fructose etc)

Not at all like a glass of fruit juice, but still, should one be wary?

Thanks

 

[Set me free]

Over the past few years, and especially few months, my brain / body has been taking a lot of damage from drugs and ECT. It seems to me like alot of medications simply don't work on me very well anymore. I would bet that that's due to damaged receptors, etc in my brain, or 'tolerance' from having used it before, but the result is the same. Benzos used to make me very sedated and could make me sleep easily, now the sedation is barely noticeable and I often can't sleep even with benzos. For example, at night I take valerian root, melatonin, doxylamine, zopiclone and clonazepam, and I often get less than 6 hours sleep. I've also tried Olanzapine, Seroquel, Latuda, Welbutrin and Adderall. Recently, drugs don't seem to have much of an effect on me.

Thus, even though I'd like to take SN and a bunch of benzos to make me sleep, there doesn't seem to be anything that actually WILL put me in a drug comatose sleep. I could use some help or suggestions with this. Even mixing alcohol with benzos lately doesn't seem to do anything at all, it's like I've broken my brains ability to be affected by benzos or alcohol or anything, it's weird.

I'm in the same boat. Due to illness barely any med works anymore. Think my receptors damaged too..Only benzos but there's the tolerance issue. I have tried everything else (same than you have) and one by one in the past few years they have stopped working. Sorry can't really help you..but also wondered if SN alone is enough to knock you out.
I don't know is this allowed to ask in here..as links to where find SN isn't. But how trustworthy would u say amazon is? Or ebay? I have trouble getting it from anywhere else.

 

[Chronic pain]

Hace un mes recibí mi SN. Pero me gustaría saber si es realmente real. Parece que es de grado analítico. Pongo algunas fotos, por favor ayuda.

 

[ralphfrank]

I wanted to ask if taking SN will make me have pain? I have access to Clozaril. If I were to take the Clozaril how much should I take before taking the SN? I don't have any SN and will buy some online. Thanks.

 

[Daniela]

Why anti-acid regimen has been removed

You simply shouldn't increase gastric pH by taking multiple acid-reducer doses days prior to drinking SN, because that would decrease hypotensive effect of SN. In other words, unless you take sedative or hypnotic drugs, anti-acid regimen prevents you from losing consciousness.

Thoughts?

I wish this user had posted a source.

 

[Dishonorable]

I started my regime today and meto is really making me tired! I hope it will calm me down and make me sleepy before drinking SN to help with my SI but I doubt it.

 

[Daniela]

If one were to take benzos during this method, when would be a good time to take it? Maybe along with the last Meto + the Tagamet dose? Not sure if there would be enough time for it to take effect.

@trynacbt

did this ever get a reply?

(I hope you're ok)

 

[trynacbt]

@trynacbt

did this ever get a reply?

(I hope you're ok)

I heard an hour before if it's anti anxiety, if it's a sleeping benzo then like 5 min before. But don't quote me on that...

 

[RecycledAtoms]

Received my SN earlier. I can't explain the feeling I had when I opened the package and held that bottle in my hand. It felt empowering and liberating. Immediately, I felt a weight lift off me. It's such a relief to know that I now have an exit if I choose to.

Anyone else get that "light weight" feeling when they realize the exit is readily available at any moment?