Resource SN megathread

[Wyntergirl]

Thank you that makes me feel better. I'm considering going with SN since night night and partial don't seem to be working out

They also have meclizine on Amazon that's way cheaper. Not sure which one I should get.

 

[lonelymess]

Does anyone know if there is a way to tell if your meto is the real deal? How likely is it that the pills are fake?

( My doctor is reluctant to prescribe them, and ADC doesn't ship to my country)

 

[Alchemist]

I think I have my process figured out. Please tell me if something is wrong here.

12AM 10mg meto
8AM 10mg meto
4PM 10mg meto
12AM 10mg meto
8AM 20mg meto
4PM 20 mg meto
12AM 20mg meto 300mg ranitidine
1AM 30g SN

 

[Stan]

12AM 10mg meto
8AM 10mg meto
4PM 10mg meto
12AM 10mg meto
8AM 20mg meto
4PM 20 mg meto
12AM 20mg meto 300mg ranitidine
1AM 30g SN

How much water do you think you are dissolving the SN in? That's going to be fairly hard to chug down

 

[Alchemist]

How much water do you think you are dissolving the SN in? That's going to be fairly hard to chug down

Probably going to use a 355ml coke bottle and just chug it really quick.

 

[Stan]

From the looks of it, in my humble opinion, looks fine

 

[Alchemist]

From the looks of it, in my humble opinion, looks fine

I'm just worried if I'm using too much SN, but also I feel that 15-20 is too little for someone over 6 feet and 300 pounds.

 

[Stan]

I'm just worried if I'm using too much SN, but also I feel that 15-20 is too little for someone over 6 feet and 300 pounds

I can't critique but here are my concerns if you wanted an honest opinion. 30gm is a lot, not because of your physical statistics, more about the taste of the damn thing. I keep coming across dissolving is less water will make it more concentrated and give you a faster reacting time. If we were going by the medical text books, 100mg per pound of your weight = lethal dose of just under 14gm of SN. I don't think you could use enough as that's the logic of overdosing. I have read that SN is extremely soluble in water. I have bought some cheap disposable plastic shot glasses. I will be adding 20gm of SN in a jar/large glass and then adding water slowly till its all dissolved. Then hopefully doing some SN shots. My reason is that it gives me a bit of time to get over chugging it, which for me will bring the mental thing of puking it up. So my aim is to have it in less liquid as possible even though the taste maybe a lot more concentrated. Also if I go nil by mouth, I am hoping that my stomach will jump on the water part to hydrate the body and the SN is just a hitchhiker

 

[Dubs]

Does anyone know if there is a way to tell if your meto is the real deal? How likely is it that the pills are fake?

( My doctor is reluctant to prescribe them, and ADC doesn't ship to my country)

It is extremely unlikely to get counterfeit Meto, I've never even heard of that happening. It is such a common and cheap drug it would cost counterfeiters more to fake it than to just smuggle it or sell a real version. If the packaging looks legit I would assume it is real.

I'm just worried if I'm using too much SN, but also I feel that 15-20 is too little for someone over 6 feet and 300 pounds.

I heard PPH increased the recommendation to 35g. I'm upping my plan to 30g as well.

 

[Stan]

I heard PPH increased the recommendation to 35g. I'm upping my plan to 30g as well.

I'd love to have a 5 minute chat with PN and ask him about the incremental rises we have seen.

 

[Trainwreck]

I'm doing 15g, but I only weigh 83 pounds. I'll have a second dose of 15g prepared just in case. Could they be raising the recommended dose to make sure you pass out/die faster? Less chance of being rescued I suppose.

 

[Wyntergirl]

Welp. I ordered the meto. Figured I might as well get it before the seller ran out. I can get Tagamet over the counter. Now I just need the SN. I know they have tons on Amazon. What's a good brand to get?

 

[throwaway_2620]

I'm going to assume you're off your meds or having a stroke.

Let me think about that. I don't know the half-life of the other anti-emetics like meto, either, so I don't know if any of them are cumulative.

Maybe there's some value added by keeping dopamine blocked for 48 hrs. This is a really great question, but I just don't know. We really need a pharmacist.

According to the OP in this thread https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/antiemetic-regimens-ahead-vs-stat.17822/, the mean half-life of metoclopramide is approximately 6 hours (5-6hrs according to wikipedia). Using this half life calculator link: www.learningaboutelectronics.com/Articles/Half-life-calculator.php, I came up with this chart (numbers are approximate):

Time (hours)	Ingested (mg)	Remaining (mg)
0	10	10
8	10	13.968
16	10	15.54
24	10	16.167
32	10	16.416
40	10	16.5147
48	10/20/30	16.55/26.55/36.55
49	SN	14.74/23.65/32.56 (depending on final dose taken)

I came up with the numbers by typing in the initial amount (10mg), the half life (6hrs), then the time that had passed (8hrs), then I added 10mg to the answer I got (after clicking submit query), then repeated the same process until I came up with the answers I got on this chart. Basically at the end of the regimen, you would have approximately 16.5/26.5/36.5mg (depending on final dose taken) of metoclopramide in your system (according to my rough calculations). I think the added value of doing the 48hr regimen rather than a single stat dose is that gives the meto time to accumulate in your system over 2 days instead of just rushing into your system all at once. According to the PPeH, the 48hr regimen allows you to predict your reaction to the antiemetic. Unlike domperidone, metoclopramide readily crosses the blood-brain barrier and it acts as a D2 (dopamine) antagonist, a 5HT3 (serotonin) antagonist and a 5TH4 agonist (prokinetic).

 

[Trainwreck]

So if I'm understanding correctly, it's useless to do 48 hours of domperidone, but quite helpful with meto? Man, I sure wish I tolerated meto! However, I am tolerating the domperidone better today at around 7.5 mg per dose (took 2.5 mg doses day 1, and 5 mg doses day 2). Tomorrow I'll take 10 mg 3 times and see how it goes.

 

[Jeev1]

i got a bottle of SN, but upon testing the results were negative....brought another bottle.....crap again the results are the same.......someone please.....should I directly inject the SN after 48hour regime.....as its written as SN on the bottle....Or do we have another test to confirm the same.....Please help me asap

 

[Trainwreck]

How did you test it? You're sure it's nitrite and not nitrate?

 

[lifeisbutadream]

Comment observed on amazon:



Amazon Customer
1.0 out of 5 starsDangerous
July 15, 2019
My niece used sodium nitrite to commit suicide. It is being recommended on suicide websites and in suicide handbooks. Please stop selling this product. It's illegal in many other countries. I've already notified amazon and they said they would help with this but they have not.
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[Heart of Ice]

I'm having second thoughts about SN. I know it can be deadly, but I only have Domperidone and Famotidine, and it seems now that taking them both can be counterproductive. I'm just unnerved about SN as I don't really understand what I'm doing no matter how many Internet sites I read.

I honestly wish that I just had cyanide. A pretty much guaranteed death and a well known poison, even if the accounts vary. Or I wish that I could get over my fear of falling and just use hanging, which is a superior method in my opinion, if done right. The only downside I see is the possibility of brain damage if found but that's not a problem for me.

Anyway, I'm planning to ctb soon. Should I take Famotidine and Domperidone or just the Domperidone considering the new info? What do you guys think? I'm thinking of a longer fast (maybe 24h) and a Domperidone stat dose.

 

[RightToExit]

I'd love to have a 5 minute chat with PN and ask him about the incremental rises we have seen.

I think it is 25g for normal-sized people now. The biggest difference is now that they are recommending also taking 2g of Propanolol, a beta blocker, to prevent the heart from compensating for the oxygen deprivation with increased blood flow.

 

[Wyntergirl]

Comment observed on amazon:



Amazon Customer
1.0 out of 5 starsDangerous
July 15, 2019
My niece used sodium nitrite to commit suicide. It is being recommended on suicide websites and in suicide handbooks. Please stop selling this product. It's illegal in many other countries. I've already notified amazon and they said they would help with this but they have not.
One person found this helpful

That was on the loud wolf one. Is loudwolf a good brand to get?
I got an email last night saying my meto was shipped but when I went to track it it said that the item was removed. Either it got sold out or was taken down, so now I'm not sure if I'll get it. But I still want to get my things in case it does

 

[lightsoutnow]

I was wondering how much SN I should take if I'm a female, 46kg?
I have on hand Primperan and Cimetidine pills.

 

[RightToExit]

I was wondering how much SN I should take if I'm a female, 46kg?
I have on hand Primperan and Cimetidine pills.

The latest PPeH update recommends 25g SN for the average person + 2g Propanolol (to prevent increased heart rate from compensating the oxygen deprivation).

 

[Lilith81]

The latest PPeH update recommends 25g SN for the average person + 2g Propanolol (to prevent increased heart rate from compensating the oxygen deprivation).

How would you get the propanolol? Is it necessary?

 

[RightToExit]

How would you get the propanolol? Is it necessary?

PN says it's not necessary, SN is deadly on its own. But it helps potentiate the effects. (I myself am no expert but can only refer what's in the PPH update.)

I ordered my propanolol from a shop they linked to in the PPH. It looks a bit unprofessional and I don't have the package yet, we'll see if it actually arrives.

 

[Qverty7455]

Damn so much stuff needed :( and it's not 100% anyway I am kinda worried + the people that are telling others to stop selling SN. Maybe I should buy all of the stuff now and hold onto it ? How long will the SN, meto and the Ranitidine ?

 

[RightToExit]

Damn so much stuff needed :( and it's not 100% anyway I am kinda worried + the people that are telling others to stop selling SN. Maybe I should buy all of the stuff now and hold onto it ? How long will the SN, meto and the Ranitidine ?

I have lab-grade SN from an actual lab supplier, it says 5 years if not opened.

My meto says 3 years and my ranitidine, which I just bought, will expire in June 2020 (but it was OTC, so it's easiest to replace)

 

[Qverty7455]

I have lab-grade SN from an actual lab supplier, it says 5 years if not opened.

My meto says 3 years and my ranitidine, which I just bought, will expire in June 2020 (but it was OTC, so it's easiest to replace)

cool thank you for fast reply :)

 

[Wyntergirl]

I have lab-grade SN from an actual lab supplier, it says 5 years if not opened.

My meto says 3 years and my ranitidine, which I just bought, will expire in June 2020 (but it was OTC, so it's easiest to replace)

Is Loudwolf a good brand to get?

 

[Thorn]

Is Loudwolf a good brand to get?

Yes, for those in the U.S.

 

[Boochky]

Is Loudwolf a good brand to get?

It's what I have and it's worked for at least 2 people.