Dot
Info abt typng styl on prfle.
- Sep 26, 2021
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If ANYONE from India messages you saying that they have it do not trust them they are a scammer. There has been a user that has had over five or six PLUS accounts who continues to come back claiming that they have N acting dumb and trying to act vulnerable and act like they don't know what's going on when they know damn well what's going on and what they're trying to do. If @Helplessman AKA @becool messages you ignore it. If anyone messages you claiming to have N ignore it. Do not send your money to anyone. If the email has not been confirmed from the PPEH which as of recently there is no confirmed email do NOT send money to anyone.
TBH the ppeh isn't even the most reliable place to confirm contacts, going by their history. They published multiple sources without verification. They also allowed D's genuine contact info to be submitted to their scam list lol.
I'd be more inclined to trsut a moderator here but ultimately its important to jusge everything on individual merit. If you want to risk losing money and can afford it then have at it but if you can't afford it don't allow your desperation to cloud your judgment.
I'd be more inclined to trsut a moderator here but ultimately its important to jusge everything on individual merit. If you want to risk losing money and can afford it then have at it but if you can't afford it don't allow your desperation to cloud your judgment.
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wljourney
Waiting for the bus
- Apr 2, 2022
- 1,419
Thank you @Dot for letting us all know.
For everyone else:
There is currently no reliable, trustworthy email known for D.
This will likely not change for weeks/months.
Do not trust new members claiming that they have an email or that they successfully ordered N from D.
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Maybe we need to post this every week for people to listen and not be scammed.
People are desperate and I understand that - in that moment - they'll do anything if there is just a glimmer of hope. And they will believe others on this site who make these claims.
What else can we do other than warn and inform?
I honestly don't know.
@Diacon
For everyone else:
There is currently no reliable, trustworthy email known for D.
This will likely not change for weeks/months.
Do not trust new members claiming that they have an email or that they successfully ordered N from D.
++++++
Maybe we need to post this every week for people to listen and not be scammed.
People are desperate and I understand that - in that moment - they'll do anything if there is just a glimmer of hope. And they will believe others on this site who make these claims.
What else can we do other than warn and inform?
I honestly don't know.
@Diacon
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...they-got-it-from-d-to-try-to-bait-you.100050/
Maybe if mods can pin your post on start page of this thread?
Good work keeping people in the light by the way. We who search for a way out of this hell don't deserve to get scammed trying.
Also maybe try to keep the thread clear from posts that don't stick to the exact subject of thread? Let's keep this info widely open guys.
blue_muse
Mage
- Jan 31, 2021
- 552
I dunno. Now the PPH is defunct, the PPEH seems like the Holy Grail. While there's money to be made from publication sales; reliability can't necessarily be averted from Philip Nitschke's angle, he has a business model to maintain. SS's days of posting PDFs of the handbooks looks precarious.TBH the ppeh isn't even the most reliable place to confirm contacts, going by their history. They published multiple sources without verification. They also allowed D's genuine contact info to be submitted to their scam list lol.
I'd be more inclined to trsut a moderator here but ultimately its important to jusge everything on individual merit. If you want to risk losing money and can afford it then have at it but if you can't afford it don't allow your desperation to cloud your judgment.
The Moderators posted conflicting information. At one time a thread was made telling members to look in the November 2021 PPH edition, when the supplier's email began changing. Then a separate post was made alerting members of the current edition in circulation, that's only accessible to people over 50.
The business model has been life that for some time and the errors have been consistent during that time. It's thw business model that spurs the hasty publishing of unconfirmed links. Whilst it would be wiser to only post confirmed info (and they may start to see sense and do so) their teack record so far hasn't been in line with that. If they do start being more diligent in posting reliable sources and not posting scam sources then I think it's fair to say its been a long time coming. It's similarly fair to way that, based on their track record it's probably best to tread with caution when using the sources they publish. That was my initial point.
I never claimed the mod team to be infallible. I just said I personally might be more inclined to trust them to verify a source. For two reasons. One is that they're accessible in real-time and the other being that they have no business model/alterior motive to provide information correct or otherwise.
wljourney
Waiting for the bus
- Apr 2, 2022
- 1,419
Great example.
+ brand new user
+ makes promises of acquiring N locally
+ no other posts
Replies like these are extremely (!!) unhelpful and should raise every and all red flags.
If you are a new member: please don't do this!
If you are looking for N: please don't interact with people who are suggesting they can help.
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This is getting extremely tiring.
wljourney
Waiting for the bus
- Apr 2, 2022
- 1,419
LOL
That's too funny.
You posted this while I was writing my last reponse and EXACTLY what I am warning against.
Telling people to contact you via Telegram.
10000% how scammers work.
GTFO
hahaha they think I'm a scammer but well people who believe in me can give me their conditions to help them get what they want also if they can advise me how to do it myself just because I repeat I know a family contact, but I don't want to put myself family in this. I want to be alone.
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Pues si quieres yo puedo ser tu primer cliente y me haces el envío gratis asi yo atestiguo ante los demas que no eres un scammer.
wljourney
Waiting for the bus
- Apr 2, 2022
- 1,419
And another one.
Claiming that they have "contacts" but they want to be careful.
This is getting so fucking ridiculous.
@Dot @RainAndSadness
What can we do to protect forum users better from scammers like this?
Can we post a sticky?
Do we have a designated thread (or single post) that warns people about the most recent ways scammers operate?
We have seen so many different ways of people getting scammed now.
- fake emails published in fake PPeH versions
- fake SaSu members who claim to have D's email and share it via DM or Telegram
- Scammers/fake SaSu members who claim they have N and want to sell their own bottles
- Scammers who claim they have "connections" and can buy local N and then send it
COMO CHINGAN SU MADRE NETA YA LES DIJE QUE YO SOY CONFIABLE, ESTOI DISPUESTO HACER LO QUE ME DIGAN PARA QUE CONFIEN EN MI ,CUAL MALDITO ESTAFADOR SE VA A PRESTAR PARA ESO
emgrl
Mage
- Aug 6, 2022
- 575
Same dude from that other thread. What a POS. The fact that they get so mad when they get called out, sticking to their pathetic story
Dot
Info abt typng styl on prfle.
- Sep 26, 2021
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Bannd
Evn if thy wre tellng truth th/ rules r as follows
"DO NOT
Evn if thy wre tellng truth th/ rules r as follows
"DO NOT
- Sell, purchase, offer, gift, or request products, materials, or money.
- We don't allow any transaction or offer for transactions whatsoever on the forum. This website is not a marketplace."
blue_muse
Mage
- Jan 31, 2021
- 552
I meant more in the long-term how Philip Nitschke has effectively monopolized supplier contact info, at least for the time being, so I can't foresee a continual comedy of errors in publishing incorrect supplier details. However, I agree about the hastiness if the defunct PPH is anything to go by - the email listed in the November 2021 and April 2022 editions is a scammer's. Let's hope diligence is increased as you say.
Context is missing as I'm not intending to sound argumentative. I didn't imply you said the Moderators were infallible, I was just making an observation about the confusion from their end; posting a thread, then quickly taking it down. I genuinely wonder how the Moderators will be able to verify a source, now the publication's restricted. May piracy RIP lol.
wljourney
Waiting for the bus
- Apr 2, 2022
- 1,419
THANK YOU!!!
Yes exactly. It's pathetic and makes me extremely angry because someone, somewhere is still going to believe the crap they are claiming. When people are desperate for relief, they will believe almost anything. We don't make the best decisions in those situations.Same dude from that other thread. What a POS. The fact that they get so mad when they get called out, sticking to their pathetic story
Talk about preying on the vulnerable.
Does anyone know how to get N? I heard go to the wiki page I don't know what that even is though?
emgrl
Mage
- Aug 6, 2022
- 575
Exactly, even the Smartest person can be fooled when in this mental state.
The worst is, they'll be back and banned again, I'm sure
RainAndSadness
Administrator
- Jun 12, 2018
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wljourney
Waiting for the bus
- Apr 2, 2022
- 1,419
You can't.
There is currently no known, reliable, trustworthy source for N.
For about 6 weeks now the previous supplier has gone dark (D) and scammers are popping up like mushrooms, either claiming that they have the "new email" or trying to sell you their own bottles or claiming that they can "get some and send them"...
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/fraud-alert-n-from-d-fake-emails.98248/post-1731382
I feel I need to clear this up. The address listed in those two editions you speak of, (assuming they're the ones available for download on the forum) is an old but legitimate address of D's. It's not a scammers. It is just no longer in service as D closed the account.
The "defunct PPH' you refer to indicates there's some confusion. PPH is the Print copy of the peaceful pill handbook. PPEH is the electric version which you no doubt know but it isn't the most current version. It is also now" defunct" but it is where the subscription model began but no longer applies. That is to say its no longer being updated. The current version of the ppeh being subscribed to is PPEH Essentials edition.
elina
Member
- Sep 25, 2022
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Hercules
Arcanist
- Jan 31, 2021
- 408
This is an old post. The wiki has been taken down. All of D's old email addresses are invalid. He has closed them. There currently isn't a valid email for D that has been confirmed.
This is unfortunately news to me (PPH/PPEH phase out in favor of something newer). It looks like I need to go to Exits site and see what the updates/changes are. Thank you for passing the info along.
locked*n*loaded
Archangel
- Apr 15, 2022
- 7,257
Sure. YOU DELIVER the N to me personally at my house. I pay you for the N AND your cost of getting to my house AND back to your home. How's is that for conditions?
Add another one. They most likely work in concert with each other.
elina
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