Why SN? Phenobarbital, GHB, TCA, all the more peaceful ?

[Yama]

Hi all, so I've spent the past weeks to research a method. Given that I'm too broke for N, the broadly accepted consensus leans towards SN. Yet, it seems, everybody's reaction to the experience differs. For some, SN won't be peaceful but distressing with unpleasant symptoms. I'd prefer to treat myself better than any sub-optimal ride. It's already hard enough.

Looking around, I found a trade-off in between through an online dealer. Phenobarbital, >10g for $500 delivery included, which is now tempting and may be second place next to N in terms of both effectiveness and peacefulness. It would take more time to die during which one must ensure to not be discovered, for like 2-3 days. For some, it can be considered at home. For me, it would happen at a short-term say rental, service free, to not be bothered.

The method of Phenobarbital is not popular, little documented. Which details are there to know ? are there potentiators to secure the deed or other precautions or remarks to have in mind to establish a complete protocol ? Thanks in advance for your participation. In all cases, this way is much more appealing to me than SN

 

[juraviel]

if you're gonna spend the 500, which not spend another 500 and have the 'peace of mind' of having the best method

 

[Amumu]

Hello OP,

Phenobarbital is not popular on SaSu for the simple reason that the PPH has only mentioned it since the last edition.

Moreover it takes days to ctb with phenobarbital. If you're found early you're likely to be "saved" and there may be some damage.

There aren't lots of sources on darknet markets, and I hope these sources are going to stay if people buy it to ctb.

The potentiators are mentioned in the PPH. Take care,

Amumu

 

[callme]

Hello OP,

Phenobarbital is not popular on SaSu for the simple reason that the PPH has only mentioned it since the last edition.

Moreover it takes days to ctb with phenobarbital. If you're found early you're likely to be "saved" and there may be some damage.

There aren't lots of sources on darknet markets, and I hope these sources are going to stay if people buy it to ctb.

The potentiators are mentioned in the PPH. Take care,

Amumu

No. It was in the PPH years ago, maybe 5 and it was still there, phenytoin was still mentioned as increasing the effects of phenobarbital when mixed with it.

 

[Yama]

if you're gonna spend the 500, which not spend another 500 and have the 'peace of mind' of having the best method

D takes $1300 for Europe. $600 extra non-sense, close to double price for just shipping elsewhere
To save $500 will already take me some time

Hello OP,

Phenobarbital is not popular on SaSu for the simple reason that the PPH has only mentioned it since the last edition.

Moreover it takes days to ctb with phenobarbital. If you're found early you're likely to be "saved" and there may be some damage.

There aren't lots of sources on darknet markets, and I hope these sources are going to stay if people buy it to ctb.

The potentiators are mentioned in the PPH. Take care,

Amumu

Ok I hear you but my preference goes towards peacefulness, not speed. Accordingly, even TCAs like Amitriptyline & Clomipramine are better than SN, and as cheapo. Yet, unpopular. I don't get the current ranking of attractiveness, after research. TCA's retail at online pharmas
Isn't it easy to organize a hotel stay undisturbed, while it's tougher to sacrifice for 30 minutes of serious discomfort with SN?

 

[juraviel]

D takes $1300 for Europe. $600 extra non-sense for just shipping elsewhere
To save $500 will already take me some time

nope i just talked to him, it's 1k for 2 bottles to eastern eu.

 

[callme]

nope i just talked to him, it's 1k for 2 bottles to eastern eu.

Yay! But the stupid signatures and declarations ugh....

 

[Yama]

nope i just talked to him, it's 1k for 2 bottles to eastern eu.

Ok. Anyway, I mean that N and Phenobarbital will feel the same, that is a blank void of nothingness. Not gonna count the clock ticking while unconscious. So it all comes down to not be rescued. Very feasible, even living at home, just wait for relatives to take extended vacations

 

[callme]

Well.. the difference is huge in that Pento is the shortest acting of the class and pheno is the slowest acting.

 

[Yama]

Yay! But the stupid signatures and declarations ugh....

There is this issue too.
Nowadays, D is a very well known drug dealer, closely monitored and his clients have been tracked on and off.
On the other hand, Phenobarbital or TCA can be gotten under the radar within the same region out of the scope of customs. At the end of the day, it adds up for a valuable difference to choose from. I mean, why pay extra if it's to risk a tea time with police officers and a forced entry ticket to the shrink or psych ward

 

[callme]

TCA's? Surely they don't work anywhere as well...

 

[Yama]

Well, about peacefulness, they do if you supplement them with 2 short and long acting benzos, ensuring to not wake up and avoid the cardiotoxic arrest period.
So you just get to go to sleep gently, unlike SN, and still don't wake up. As effective but takes longer. Let's call it a considerate trade-off if not a masochist.

Just so you know, the Exit RPA table of the PPeH / Exit International ranks Amitriptyline more reliable (8 vs 7) than SN and as peaceful (7) In fact, it's even more close to entirely peaceful without nasty symptoms due to the sleep inducing properties of TCA topped by short-term benzo overdose (Midazolam is used for rapid anesthesia during operations for a purpose). The same cannot be said for SN whose naked transition is far from a walk in the park...

 

[Amumu]

D takes $1300 for Europe. $600 extra non-sense, close to double price for just shipping elsewhere
To save $500 will already take me some time


Ok I hear you but my preference goes towards peacefulness, not speed. Accordingly, even TCAs like Amitriptyline & Clomipramine are better than SN, and as cheapo. Yet, unpopular. I don't get the current ranking of attractiveness, after research. TCA's retail at online pharmas
Isn't it easy to organize a hotel stay undisturbed, while it's tougher to sacrifice for 30 minutes of serious discomfort with SN?

Mmh? Amitriptyline is not that peaceful. It's as peaceful as SN.

Ok. Anyway, I mean that N and Phenobarbital will feel the same, that is a blank void of nothingness. Not gonna count the clock ticking while unconscious. So it all comes down to not be rescued. Very feasible, even living at home, just wait for relatives to take extended vacations

It won't feel the same, the loss of consciousness is much longer for phenobarbital

 

[Yama]

Adding GHB to the contender list of dirt cheap, rapid, peaceful alternative.

GHB: The killer drug used by Stephen Port

What is GHB and why do people take it?

www.bbc.com

Gay serial killer Stephen Port convicted of murdering men he met through dating app

GRINDR killer Stephen Port has been found guilty of murdering men he met through the gay dating app to fulfil his sexual fetish for ‘twinks’. Port has been convicted of drugging his vic…

www.thesun.co.uk

What's the catch with SN these days?

 

[Amumu]

Adding GHB to the contender list of dirt cheap, rapid, peaceful alternative. What's the catch with SN really?

GHB: The killer drug used by Stephen Port

What is GHB and why do people take it?

www.bbc.com

Gay serial killer Stephen Port convicted of murdering men he met through dating app

GRINDR killer Stephen Port has been found guilty of murdering men he met through the gay dating app to fulfil his sexual fetish for ‘twinks’. Port has been convicted of drugging his vic…

www.thesun.co.uk

GHB isn't mentioned in the PPH, you've got the explanation.

 

[Yama]

Mmh? Amitriptyline is not that peaceful. It's as peaceful as SN.

It is leading to drowsiness and sleep without sickness, and attacks the heart later through a slow process.
Amitriptyline is only painful if you wake up many hours after, which is prevented by Valium or Flurazepam in excess quantity

Try Midazolam in high dose: 5 to 15 minutes to snore. Fastest benzo which feels much nicer than SN, with a little euphoria and light headness

 

[Amumu]

It is leading to drowsiness and sleep without sickness, and attacks the heart later through a slow process.
Amitriptyline is only painful if you wake up many hours after, which is prevented by Valium or Flurazepam in excess quantity

Try Midazolam in high dose: 5 to 15 minutes to snore. Fastest benzo which feels much nicer than SN, with a little euphoria and light headness

Don't worry I believe you, I just stick to the PPH's grades and Amitryptiline and SN are rated the same with regard to peacefulness.

When you're completely lost you need a reference, even if it's not perfect.

 

[thebigpigman]

Hello OP,

Phenobarbital is not popular on SaSu for the simple reason that the PPH has only mentioned it since the last edition.

Moreover it takes days to ctb with phenobarbital. If you're found early you're likely to be "saved" and there may be some damage.

There aren't lots of sources on darknet markets, and I hope these sources are going to stay if people buy it to ctb.

The potentiators are mentioned in the PPH. Take care,

Amumu

What about propranol? The lethal dose is 1gm

It is leading to drowsiness and sleep without sickness, and attacks the heart later through a slow process.
Amitriptyline is only painful if you wake up many hours after, which is prevented by Valium or Flurazepam in excess quantity

Try Midazolam in high dose: 5 to 15 minutes to snore. Fastest benzo which feels much nicer than SN, with a little euphoria and light headness

How do I get Valium? Is it available in India? Also I got a benzo drug alprazolam today. I asked those fuckers if they had different brands or doses I'd they don't have. They said no
Then I asked the billing guy he said yes i asked for 2 strips but gave one (still enough for me) . he told its a narcotic drugbso its restricted.


So any ideas on how to get all these?

 

[callme]

Well, about peacefulness, they do if you supplement them with 2 short and long acting benzos, ensuring to not wake up and avoid the cardiotoxic arrest period.
So you just get to go to sleep gently, unlike SN, and still don't wake up. As effective but takes longer. Let's call it a considerate trade-off if not a masochist.

Just so you know, the Exit RP table of the PPeH / Exit International ranks Amitriptyline more reliable (8 vs 7) than SN and as peaceful (7) In fact, it's even more close to entirely peaceful without nasty symptoms due to the sleep inducing properties of TCA topped by short-term benzo overdose (Midazolam is used for rapid anesthesia during operations for a purpose). The same cannot be said for SN whose naked transition is far from a walk in the park...

Just did a quick search and couldn't find Midazolam anywhere in Russia and Mexico.

 

[Yama]

Just did a quick search and couldn't find Midazolam anywhere in Russia and Mexico.

Don't know about your destination. I did get mine online, shipped from Greece

 

[TriggerHappy]

I was planning SN and heroin (my favorite); I never considered ghb :: until now.
Ugh. Back to the drawing board.
Back to the dealer.. I want to take as much as I can fatally tolerate,
Know its history, done it recreationally (chemsex in amsterdsm) but doubt availablity
♤ have monster tolerance issues/ fatal dosages?
So fkg confused again. I so don't trust web, local delivery, naloxone therapy.
PM me /advice welcome? Help?

 

[A_miStake_of_NATURE]

Because SN is the most available option for me, accessibility and money wise

 

[Anonymous_A]

Ctb with SN/N, and all the other methods in the mega-threads have been documented.

Go try ctb with ghb and report back. That's all you can do if your not content with the methods on this site

 

[TriggerHappy]

Ctb with SN/N, and all the other methods in the mega-threads have been documented.

Go try ctb with ghb and report back. That's all you can do if your not content with the methods on this site

um.... well I'm on the arse end of Africa, so streetdrugs and SN are the way im thinking.
Including H and ghb sounds alluring, don't shoot a fellow shopper....
I envy you guys internet ordering direct from the planetary suppliers.
I used to shoot that shite for fun...always used to wake up :: im a 2/3/4 day wonder, sadly.
N is an elusive dream (accessibility issues et al)
"not content with the methods....." a bit harsh, considering I'm stans disciple.
maybe you feel its irresponsible to discuss methods that may prove unsuccessful, i get that.
trust me im an experienced highly tolerant disco lazarus, with limitations im trying to work thru....

 

[OnlyTheWind]

My apathy and low energy levels prevent me from learning to buy from the darknet, but if I did I would go for phenobarbital.

 

[Amumu]

Also some other stuff in favour of SN :

-Storage. It has the best storage grade among "drugs" (even if it's not classified as a drug), almost infinite when properly stored.
-Reliability is ranked 7/10 but the PPH also mentions exit has never seen anyone "saved" if not found early, and that it's really effective. The asterisk let us suppose it should be 8/10 at least.
-The only cases of failure we've seen on SS are caused by the same explanation, or when people haven't tested their product, or when they've not followed Stan's guide if I'm not mistaken.
-Last but not least : no important damage if you're found early !

 

[OnlyTheWind]

Also some other stuff in favour of SN :

-Storage. It has the best storage grade among "drugs" (even if it's not classified as a drug), almost infinite when properly stored.
-Reliability is ranked 7/10 but the PPH also mentions exit has never seen anyone "saved" if not found early, and that it's really effective. The asterisk let us suppose it should be 8/10 at least.
-The only cases of failure we've seen on SS are caused by the same explanation, or when people haven't tested their product, or when they've not followed Stan's guide if I'm not mistaken.
-Last but not least : no important damage if you're found early !

Thank you. Very handy to have, even if undecided on the method.

 

[Yama]

Also some other stuff in favour of SN :

-Storage. It has the best storage grade among "drugs" (even if it's not classified as a drug), almost infinite when properly stored.
-Reliability is ranked 7/10 but the PPH also mentions exit has never seen anyone "saved" if not found early, and that it's really effective. The asterisk let us suppose it should be 8/10 at least.

The asterix comments "indicates some uncertainty". The storage note is equal to N, Chloroquine, Cyanide, Azide and misc.

These notes are very arbitrary anyway, subjective, to reassess, when you see that Fentanyl has the highest safety note, when in reality it's so strong it can penetrate the skin to dangerous levels just by manipulating it. There are more than one inexactitude.

 

[Amumu]

The asterix comments "indicates some uncertainty"
The storage note is equal to N, Chloroquine, Cyanide, Azide and misc.

These notes are very arbitrary anyway, subjective, to reassess, when you see that Fentanyl has the highest safety note, when in reality it's so strong it can penetrate the skin to dangerous levels just by manipulating it. There are more than one inexactitude.

The Asterix comments "indicates some uncertainty" indeed. But with the other comment "all people who used SN without being interrupted ctb" means that reliability is supposed to be HIGHER with some uncertainty. We can reasonably think it's at least 8 or 9 then.

SN has the same grade concerning storage as cyanide and azide because they're also lethal salts, obviously.

N is expensive and risky, and chloroquine is painful. Lethal salts have still the best storage,
as it's more explicitly mentioned their shelf-life is infinite, contrary to all the other drugs.

These notes aren't arbitrary since they're based on statistical studies.

Honestly idk what's your goal with bashing SN like that. It's popular for good reasons, it's not just a trend followed by the herd.

 

[Yama]

Maybe 7.5? They did not give it 8 or 9 for a reason and it has stayed many months not corrected.
The debreather is also highly rated in the PPeH (more than SN), whereas it's a gimmick for guinea pigs. Not taking for granted the reviews there. They're good indications for further own research.

Not bashing SN regarding it's effectiveness but about peacefulness then clearly it is mediocre compared to other substances that are relatively as affordable. In my eyes, there is a kind of hype which is not justified, all things considered. But put it on me, I'm not attracted to any kind of suffering. Had enough. I'll continue my exploration since I don't see any more difficulty in sourcing other substances.