Why SN? Phenobarbital, GHB, TCA, all the more peaceful ?

[Amumu]

Maybe 7.5? They did not give it 8 or 9 for a reason and it has stayed many months not corrected.
The debreather is also highly rated in the PPeH (more than SN), whereas it's a gimmick for guinea pigs. Not taking for granted the reviews there. They're good indications for further own research.

Not bashing SN regarding it's effectiveness but about peacefulness then clearly it is mediocre compared to other substances that are relatively as affordable. In my eyes, there is a kind of hype which is not justified, all things considered. But put it on me, I'm not attracted to any kind of suffering. Had enough. I'll continue my exploration since I don't see any more difficulty in sourcing other substances.

Anyway in my opinion it's always better to have two methods, one with a long shelf-life as a back up and another one.

Take care.

 

[1000winds]

um.... well I'm on the arse end of Africa, so streetdrugs and SN are the way im thinking.
Including H and ghb sounds alluring, don't shoot a fellow shopper....
I envy you guys internet ordering direct from the planetary suppliers.
I used to shoot that shite for fun...always used to wake up :: im a 2/3/4 day wonder, sadly.
N is an elusive dream (accessibility issues et al)
"not content with the methods....." a bit harsh, considering I'm stans disciple.
maybe you feel its irresponsible to discuss methods that may prove unsuccessful, i get that.
trust me im an experienced highly tolerant disco lazarus, with limitations im trying to work thru....

are you in SA