SS Member Arrested for Rape & Attempted Murder of 2 SS Members

[TotallyIsolated]

Not once did I say those women deserved to be raped. Please don't put my words out of context. I have repeatedly stated the attacker should be blamed and punished for his actions. is it too much to ask members to be more cautious when choosing or meeting a partner IRL or virtually? Am I Victim blaming if I said someone with lung cancer should have quit smoking( assuming smoking was the cause of lung cancer)? How is this issue gonna be solved if we don't minimize the risk of sexual assault. sexual predators aren't gonna magically disappear, That's the scary truth. Let's be more pro-active and raise awareness on the danger of meeting a suicide partner. Especially when there are vulnerable individuals who are more easily manipulated to no fault of their own.

I am absolutely willing to give the benefit of the doubt here. I honestly believe you didn't mean that, that you care, and that you're trying to be constructive. However, its still really important to recognise to be clear about what constitutes victim blaming.

You're not wrong that sexual predators aren't going to disappear, but regardless of how well intentioned it was this argument still comes from the same place as victim blaming. Its not calling you out per se, just this choice of words. Its a difficult subject to talk about.

I'd like to think we are all on the same page here.

they didnt replace the word. im not going to argue with you about this. i feel like im bashing my head off a wall.

You're right it is victim blaming and its really important to be clear about that. I'm really proud of SS, at least in this thread, for at least being better than the likes of Reddit.

Having said that though, not everyone gets it and I hope that we can still take what was overall a positive sentiment and steer it in a good direction. What can we all do to help vulnerable members not fall prey to this type of thing, perhaps?

 

[Life_and_Death]

You're right it is victim blaming

speaking of being human and miswording stuff (i hope/think).....thats not what i said

 

[MoreThanAFeeling]

"When I said I couldn't come because I couldn't get childcare for my 2 year old daughter he suggested I bring her with me and after he killed me he would drop her off at a police station."

By this point anyone would back out! I mean who would be willing to hand over their own daughter to someone who wants to kill you?!

Am I missing here something?!

 

[TotallyIsolated]

speaking of being human and miswording stuff (i hope/think).....thats not what i said

I apologise, I think I'm getting a bit confused.

Its just that there are people and even forum members who want to see SS as being toxic, harmful, and as enabling abusers and I really don't believe that that's true. We are better than that.

 

[Life_and_Death]

I apologise, I think I'm getting a bit confused.

Its just that there are people and even forum members who want to see SS as being toxic, harmful, and as enabling abusers and I really don't believe that that's true. We are better than that.

this made me start to wonder. we know ft26 has fake accounts, how many commenting in this saying its horrible, ect or whatever is them???? not all of them duh, theres some reputable members giving their opinion here but come on, this is screaming ft26 bait
also while im pointing stuff out, the article says sexual assault not rape and from what i skimmed didnt see anything that says what happened. all im saying is i feel the word is being used inappropriately here

 

[MoreThanAFeeling]

How many red flags until we can partially bla.. (no no don't say it SS woke police is watching)

 

[taylor321]

This let's me rethink about the safety of this website. There are dangerous members. I would never meet someone of this website. And I can only recommend it. The partners thread can be easily abused. Trust can be easily abused. There are so many threats prolifers or predators. It is horrible.
Still this website is very very important. That's the price the society pays when they criminalize suicidal people.

Ya there's definitely many dangerous members and not in the way you would think. Most people in the partners thread aren't even suicidal which was somewhat of a shock to me. I've given out my number and snapchat to just be ignored/have my time wasted by people who had ZERO intention of meeting up or commiting suicide and the mods don't do anything cause they are too busy responding to another troll asking how to overdose on vitamins

 

[MoreThanAFeeling]

and the mods don't do anything

Isn't it already enough for them to volunteer their time to keep SS running smoothly?! If you don't like the service you are getting here you are welcome to leave. I am sure there is a better forum where magically all potential partners are 100% serious about partnering up.

 

[MartyByrde]

"..and talked about ways he wanted to violate my body before and after he hanged me. He said he might keep me as a slave for a few days before he killed me."

Not enough red flags?! Why is she still meeting this guy?!

I'm not a doctor, but my guess is mental illness. I've ignored more than my fair share of red flags, and generally that's been when my illnesses are at their worst.

screaming ft26 bait

What is ft26?

 

[MoreThanAFeeling]

I've ignored more than my fair share of red flags

Same

But I am sure the red flags you faces so far are laughable compare to the above major red flags.

*It's amusing to see woke members jump in to quickly vote up your weak argument.

 

[TotallyIsolated]

Same

But I am sure the red flags you faces so far are laughable compare to the above major red flags.

*It's amusing to see woke members jump in to quickly vote up your weak argument.

Such lame, transparent trolling.

 

[popcorn]

havent read the whole thread, cant concentrate atm. but the article is crazy!!!!!! google image the guy and there is a pic of him on linkdin, he looks 'normal'...

 

[Brick In The Wall]

A man in Glasgow has been charged, and being held without bail, for the rape and torture of two women he met on SS. His name is Craig McInally.

TRUST NO ONE

Scot accused of trying to murder two women he 'met on assisted suicide website'

A GLASGOW man is accused of trying to kill two women he allegedly offered to help on an assisted suicide website. Craig McInally, 29, is accused of messaging the vulnerable women online between May…

www.thescottishsun.co.uk

Pretty fucked up stuff. It hits home when something like that happens here. But the internet is a dangerous place in general.

 

[Life_and_Death]

What is ft26

A group of pro-life people that only think they are doing good however can't see past their broken hearts enough to open their eyes and realize they're only making shit worse. From my understanding (it was kind of sudden) they already took the life of 1 member through doxxing and bs.

RIP @mahakaliSS_MahaDurga

 

[xLosthopex]

Oh my god that's crazy

 

[Livingvsdying25]

Jesus christ... no words... just seeing this now...

 

[MartyByrde]

A group of pro-life people that only think they are doing good however can't see past their broken hearts enough to open their eyes and realize they're only making shit worse. From my understanding (it was kind of sudden) they already took the life of 1 member through doxxing and bs.

RIP @mahakaliSS_MahaDurga

Thanks for the info.

 

[omoidarui]

why do people still say a member ctb because of FixThe26?

she was too busy having real problems to care and she said to me the day before she died that she couldn't give a monkey's about what they say

 

[CyanideSoup]

I am not going to comment on this anymore but I was not one of the 2 women mentioned. Yes it was the same man and yes I have made a statement with the police. Despite what he was saying I was still going to go because I was a severely unwell, vulnerable and was desperate to die. In hindsight I see how stupid that was but when you are in such a terrible place with no way out you would do anything. I have no idea what he said to these women but I know how convincing he could be that he was trying to help, and that he only had your best interests at heart. I was lucky that he was arrested just before I was due to meet him, and I'm still traumatised by everything. The other women weren't so lucky and have to live with that trauma. Please stop victim blaming. The only person who should be blamed is him and hopefully he will get everything he deserves.

 

[Life_and_Death]

why do people still say a member ctb because of FixThe26?

she was too busy having real problems to care and she said to me the day before she died that she couldn't give a monkey's about what they say

can you chill please (i only word it this way because you sound worked up over it so if youre not, ignore it. maybe youre not...idk im not having a good morning at all) all i want to say is i said "from my understanding", i read somewhere from someone and they said something. anyway i cant remember anything as it was a while ago and i didnt have the best memory back then to begin with but i do remember that what i read gave me the impression that while it wasnt her only problem, they sure as hell didnt help with things.

 

[Apathy79]

Seems his M.O. was private messaging new members and he didn't engage much with the forum.

We can see all the red flags with hindsight - might be worth making a note of them and the others mentioned if you're planning to meet someone from online.

This is an increasing problem due to internet anonymity that requires extra caution.

 

[Odwin]

Damn, the story is fucked up.

 

[LONE WOLF.]

I'd like to think he'll spend the rest of his worthless life rotting in prison but knowing THE UK justice system he'll probably be out in 5 years for good behaviour! UK JUSTICE STINKS!!!

 

[MaybeSoon]

I must be the most naive person the planet because this is the last thing I would expect from here. For fucks sake.

 

[Odwin]

I must be the most naive person the planet because this is the last thing I would expect from here. For fucks sake.

Predators know where to find vurnable people :/

 

[x_LittleAmy_x]

I must be the most naive person the planet because this is the last thing I would expect from here. For fucks sake.

Anonymity is all well and good but predators make use of it to, well, prey on the vulnerable.

 

[taylor321]

Isn't it already enough for them to volunteer their time to keep SS running smoothly?! If you don't like the service you are getting here you are welcome to leave. I am sure there is a better forum where magically all potential partners are 100% serious about partnering up.

That's so cool and original to completely leave out my concerns and just make it about u and YOUR experience instead of me and the countless other women who have had creepy experiences on here. I never said anything about ALL the mods being like that. I think it's pretty duchey to defend someone "volunteering" time to mess with suicidal people. I literally made a post like this before and then one of them deleted it yet they haven't banned a creepy guy (who's been on here for years) and keeps messing with people, that's literally what this thread is about. Your username is how u make me feel lol. Your response shows u have no experience with these types of people, perhaps it's cause u defend them. You should really try NOT doing that. "If you don't like the service you are getting here you are welcome to leave." I wasn't even talking to you but u felt the need to respond being rude because???? This thread is literally about what I AM talking about.... People like u ignore the guy this thread is about meanwhile the people being affected get garbage replies from people like u who couldn't care less.

 

[Pen>Sword]

Who could this user be? I wonder if there's red flags all over his profile.

Funnily enough, I've just now been messaged by a mod to tell me why my thread on the same topic was locked:

"It was locked to prevent the thread from becoming drawn out and toxic".

Make of that what you will....

I thought this forum is all about freedom of speech. This forum is already in hot waters for allowing posts like reliable suicide methods here, which I greatly appreciate. What makes yours anymore "drawn out and toxic". It's not like you're recruiting terrorist, inciting violence, committing hate crime or something like that.

 

[noaccount]

I don't understand why people are so shocked when stuff like this happens. There are predators online trying to assault women and its been happening since the birth of internet. The guy was a piece of shit and should be punished but those women are partly to blame for being so Naive.

Reported and fuck you and you will be wholly to blame when you yourself die.

 

[◄✵火✵〇°Ø•WÅR•Ī°〇✵火✵►]

That's so cool and original to completely leave out my concerns and just make it about u and YOUR experience instead of me and the countless other women who have had creepy experiences on here. I never said anything about ALL the mods being like that. I think it's pretty duchey to defend someone "volunteering" time to mess with suicidal people. I literally made a post like this before and then one of them deleted it yet they haven't banned a creepy guy (who's been on here for years) and keeps messing with people, that's literally what this thread is about. Your username is how u make me feel lol. Your response shows u have no experience with these types of people, perhaps it's cause u defend them. You should really try NOT doing that. "If you don't like the service you are getting here you are welcome to leave." I wasn't even talking to you but u felt the need to respond being rude because???? This thread is literally about what I AM talking about.... People like u ignore the guy this thread is about meanwhile the people being affected get garbage replies from people like u who couldn't care less.

Honestly speaking, I think these people should just be outted, username and all, along with the experiences. When they're reported, that's all nice and good but I read that after some time has passed, their account goes back to being "like new" meaning the percentage slowly goes back to 0 (once they reach a certain percentage, they're banned) or something and they can just continue operating in the dark. I think the only way for this is to out them to the public to warn other users about them. That's what I did about one specific individual. Mods alone can't monitor thousands of people all at once so I think this helps each user monitor their own surroundings themselves as well without relying on the help of mods. The community people could rely on each other this way instead of putting it all on the mods' shoulders. You'd be surprised how many have had experiences with 1 user but no one knows about it because no one spoke about it.

There is a specific rule about not revealing anyone's personal infos publicly though, but I think that applies to identifying infos such as their name, date of birth, etc. (It's written in the rules). Meaning that all members can absolutely share the experiences they've had with user x y or z. Not being able to do this, is censorship, which is what this site is against. As long as the full name or any other identifying infos (username excluded otherwise, it'd be almost pointless) aren't being shared publicly, there should be no issues. This is the only way to increase safety. It's loud warnings, a section where users can find infos about offending users and individuals and of course vigilance, alertness, awareness, smart moves and a plan. That was originally the purpose of media, it's information for awareness and safety, SS should have something like this. This will make users wiser about what they say/share and how they interact with others, as well as informing them of what type of people are on this forum and the internet in general. It's unfortunate that things had to get so bad for people to be made aware of the dangers in this world.

Of course, there might be issues of blackmail etc but I think the only reason people don't speak about their experiences is because they're scared of not being believed, of being ridiculed, attacked etc. Or they may even self-blame and keep everything to themselves because they believe it was all their fault. That's why, I suggest there be a section for this kind of thing, a place for people who've encountered offending/threatening individuals to share their experiences and the username of said individuals so others can take from it and be vigilant and take the matter into their own hands as well (kind of like the scams megathread but more like an entire section where everyone can post their own threads and experiences, it would be easier to comment under/find/etc). Keeping evidence is key as well so I suggest avoiding deleting messages etc. Mods should be informed on top of all of this.

These are all suggestions of course. It's up to all individuals.

Shed light and the dark will cease existing.

And sorry to the victims. Hopefully we can learn to use the past to create a better/safer/happier present and a better/safer/happier future, for ourselves and for all of those we can do it for.

This is a general message.