Resource SN megathread

[bigdog]

I ordered from Russia no problems

 

[Captive of Mind]

Anyone know anything about the blood test to test your sn before use ?

Use the search bar on the forum and it will come up right away. I saw a post that has pictures showing what it should look like. I'm sure there are several posts about it.

 

[PatheticRylee]

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

Is there any alternative to the Antiemetics if we don't have access to prescription meds?

 

[Captive of Mind]

Is there any alternative to the Antiemetics if we don't have access to prescription meds?

Are you in the US?

 

[cazwiz]

Is there any alternative to the Antiemetics if we don't have access to prescription meds?

Not sure where you are posting from, but in the UK you can get Primperan and Domperidone from overseas on the internet marketplace

 

[PatheticRylee]

Are you in the US?

Yes I am in the U.S

Not sure where you are posting from, but in the UK you can get Primperan and Domperidone from overseas on the internet marketplace

I am in the U.S

 

[Captive of Mind]

Is there any alternative to the Antiemetics if we don't have access to prescription meds?

Go to as many online pharmacies and migraine websites as possible. I got meto from a migraine website and the prescription took 2 days for them to fill out.

 

[PatheticRylee]

Go to as many online pharmacies and migraine websites as possible. I got meto from a migraine website and the prescription took 2 days for them to fill out.

Go to as many online pharmacies and migraine websites as possible. I got meto from a migraine website and the prescription took 2 days for them to fill out.

Do you remember the site you got it from? Idk what to look for on Google haha

 

[Holloet]

Just drinking water tends to make me burp. Is burping after drinking SN a problem?

 

[Zorya]

1000 grams of SN hidden in my bed. :D Also meto and benzos.

 

[Lethe]

1000 grams of SN hidden in my bed. :D Also meto and benzos.

Where do you get benzos? So many people talk about it on this forum as if it were candy.

 

[Zorya]

Where do you get benzos? So many people talk about it on this forum as if it were candy.

I have a very cool family doctor, he actually prescribes me those like candy.

 

[imalone]

Ik there are the recommended substances to help prevent you from throwing it up, if these are unnattainable to me (yes i have tried to get prescriptions for some wo success), is there ANYTHINg else I can take or try to ensure I don't just throw up SN? Thanks

 

[I want to end it]

Is it better to do the 48 hour regimen or stat dose? I prefer not to prepare for 2 days but I don't know if there is an advantage with that.

 

[orion182]

Anyone know the ukranian seller sells 99% purity sn?

 

[orion182]

Did anyone tested it?

 

[pua]

is it possible to throw up while we're unconscious after taking SN

 

[not4us]

is it possible to throw up while we're unconscious after taking SN

yep

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

Ik there are the recommended substances to help prevent you from throwing it up, if these are unnattainable to me (yes i have tried to get prescriptions for some wo success), is there ANYTHINg else I can take or try to ensure I don't just throw up SN? Thanks

You can try Meclizine. It is available otc. People have different opinions about its effectiveness, but I think it's better than nothing.

 

[Captive of Mind]

Did anyone tested it?

Even if they send out one batch that is good, that doesn't mean they all will be. They could give one person 99% and then give another person something way less. I've heard people report this happening.

 

[pua]

yep

what can we do to prevent this?

 

[Captive of Mind]

what can we do to prevent this?

Just follow the protocol as much as possible. Things like fasting and an anti emetic will help for sure. If you haven't thrown up by the time you pass out, then it is likely that enough has gotten into your system by that point so I don't think this will be an issue at all. If you wake back up, drink the other dose you have prepared. Having 3 or 4 doses already prepared could help if this happens.

 

[Busdriver]

Would you prepare doses each with 25g? I would prepare a second and third dose of 10g.

I would use meto, hoping I don't expel everything.

What do you think the dosage of 2nd and 3rd cup should be?

 

[not4us]

what can we do to prevent this?

If sn made you unconscious it doesn't matter anymore if you puke or no, you got enough of it in your system. However, if you puke before losing consciousness drinking second solution is must.

 

[gardi]

The lethal oral dose of nitrite for adults has been variously reported to be between 0.7 and 6 g NO2- (approximately 10 to 100 mg NO2-/kg) (WHO, l985; Corre & Breimer, 1979; Fassett, 1973; De Beer et al., 1975). Lower doses may apply for children (especially neonates), the elderly and people with certain enzyme deficiencies.
The broad range is due to the wide variability in individual sensitivity illustrated by the following examples: Gowans (1990) reported a fatal case of a 17-year-old nurse who probably ingested 1 g sodium nitrite (= 670 mg NO2-) as a tablet. In contrast, an adult survived without lasting problems after ingestion of 9.7 g NO2- (as sodium nitrite) (Vetter, 1951).
Human volunteers given sodium nitrite intravenously produced a maximum methaemoglobin level of 7% after a dose of 2.7 mg NO2-/kg and 30% after a dose of 8 mg/kg (Kiese & Weger, 1969). (This indicatesa lethal dose within the range reported above (ECETOC, 1988)).
The first symptoms of oral nitrite poisoning develop within 15 to 45 minutes (ECETOC, 1988).

Source - http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/chemical/pimg016.htm

 

[I want to end it]

I took one tablet of the anti emetic because it recommends in the guides to do that in case you have a reaction. What should I be feeling? I took it a few minutes ago and didn't feel anything.

 

[mapletree]

This is a weird question, but does this cause panic attacks before you pass out? I've read that it causes tachycardia and I've had a pretty bad panic attack before, and an electrolyte in balance they gave me severe tachycardia. And neither of them were particularly pleasant and I don't particularly want to experience it again if I can at all avoid it. How uncomfortable is it?

 

[sagajin]

Anyone know the ukranian seller sells 99% purity sn?

bought from him two days ago. waiting on arival

 

[Eren]

I have two somewhat basic questions about SN:

1.- Can I buy SN in a very small bottle/box that can be hidden, for example, inside the box of an old computer? (this is how I have hidden a rope for hanging)

2.- If I decide to get rid of SN later, how can I do this? Since it is a poison and I cannot just throw it away.

 

[IBreathButNoMoreLive]

Anyone know if Australia Customs stops SN ?