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Deardaddy

Deardaddy

Student
May 20, 2019
172
My only best i can find
SN from chemport Poland(are they pure)
Zonfran (Ondansetron)
Tagamart
Xanax

I only got one chance . The others I have low, please see me as a suffering person and bless me .

Thanks ,
 
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DontHaveImagination

Member
Aug 5, 2020
6
Any tips on where to buy this in EU without pretending to be a business? Any legitimate looking seller I find will only sell to businesses, and while I've found legitimate sellers elsewhere, they won't ship to Europe. Of course I can pretend to represent a business if I need to, but I'd rather not, so looking for other options. first.

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I can't link it due to rules, but has anyone here bought from the Polish store whose website is named after the chemical symbol for dinitrogen trioxide?
 
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Cashewmilk

Cashewmilk

Specialist
Mar 10, 2020
352
I am so pissed with this, I can't get meto or any antiemetic, I literally can't get anything else except for SN. And I just hate the vomiting part. Vomiting is so painful sometimes, excruciating and who knows how long it'll go on for, the pain and overheating. I wish I could use this method and I wish it could be as simple as everyone thinks. I'm really eyeing my thousands of mg of methadone bottles now but probably need antiemetic for that too.
 
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rt1989526

Paragon
Aug 2, 2020
935
I am so pissed with this, I can't get meto or any antiemetic, I literally can't get anything else except for SN. And I just hate the vomiting part. Vomiting is so painful sometimes, excruciating and who knows how long it'll go on for, the pain and overheating. I wish I could use this method and I wish it could be as simple as everyone thinks. I'm really eyeing my thousands of mg of methadone bottles now but probably need antiemetic for that too.

Try calling a walk-in clinic and asking for a prescription for Meto. Say you have occasional migraines and it has helped in the past, in addition to Proplanolol. Definitely worth a try
 
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Lupgevif

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Jul 23, 2020
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Just how strong is the urge to puke? Is it like your body simply needs to get rid of it and its a physical, uncontrollable reflex, or you just feel like a strong need to puke?
 
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autumnal

autumnal

Enlightened
Feb 4, 2020
1,950
Just how strong is the urge to puke? Is it like your body simply needs to get rid of it and its a physical, uncontrollable reflex, or you just feel like a strong need to puke?

I believe it would be experienced as a massive physical, uncontrollable reflex. Not something that can be held down by personal willpower or distraction etc.
 
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Silasruin

Member
May 7, 2019
34
I believe it would be experienced as a massive physical, uncontrollable reflex. Not something that can be held down by personal willpower or distraction etc.

This is true. I've taken a large amount before and it's not something you can control.

I do wonder if a big part of that is also your taste buds, because it's pretty awful.. so I'm looking for options to bypass them.
 
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Holloet

Specialist
Jun 9, 2020
319
Can meto cause loss of appetite? It might just be because of depression/anxiety, but I feel like ever since I tested the meto I had no appetite.
 
autumnal

autumnal

Enlightened
Feb 4, 2020
1,950
This is true. I've taken a large amount before and it's not something you can control.

I do wonder if a big part of that is also your taste buds, because it's pretty awful.. so I'm looking for options to bypass them.

The intense vomiting reaction from SN is caused by the poison being detected in the stomach, and the body instinctively attempting to expel the poison. So the taste-buds play no part in this aspect.

That's not to say that an individual might not additionally experience gagging or nausea from the taste alone, but that is a far more minor and uncommon reaction.

It is the instinctive expulsion from the stomach that is the nausea and vomiting that everyone refers to concerning SN.

Is SN more effective if you weigh less?

Not fundamentally, no. The dose is tailored to the body weight group, so it's not really an issue.
 
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Eren

Eren

Si hablas español mándame un MP
Oct 27, 2018
1,075
I have a hiatal hernia.Can this negatively affect SN use? I don't want to use hanging
 
Bauhaus

Bauhaus

Specialist
Jan 18, 2020
388
Not fundamentally, no. The dose is tailored to the body weight group, so it's not really an issue.
I would say that's a BIG issue. If your obese like I am you'll need 35g instead of 25g, the vomiting would be gruesome.
 
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Nitro07

New Member
Oct 24, 2018
2
Is there a fellow Dutchman here who could help me out with SN? I have no idea where to get it. Also no idea how to get anti-emetics. The only thing I have access to is omeprazole. Please PM me!
 
gardi

gardi

Member
Nov 21, 2019
31
I would say that's a BIG issue. If your obese like I am you'll need 35g instead of 25g, the vomiting would be gruesome.
What do you think about this case? https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/taking-sn-soon.18699
Weight is over 300 lbs (136kg), success with little over 20 grams 100 ml of water.
I am also big (145kg) and am thinking about the dose.
 
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Bauhaus

Bauhaus

Specialist
Jan 18, 2020
388
What do you think about this case? https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/taking-sn-soon.18699
Weight is over 300 lbs (136kg), success with little over 20 grams 100 ml of water.
I am also big (145kg) and am thinking about the dose.
This case tells you nothing.
Did he actually take 20 g or more ? Or did he take a second dose ?
Did he suffer and did he vomit ?
And if 15g is already enough then why does PPH recommend 35g for obese people ?
 
StellaArtoix

StellaArtoix

Student
Jul 25, 2020
130
I have a hiatal hernia.Can this negatively affect SN use? I don't want to use hanging
Hiatal Hernias arent caused by obesity., theyre usually age related, and may be caused by injury to that area, or from intense/persistent pressure on surrounding muscles. You can also be born with Hiatal henias. Obesity is a big risk factor though.
I dont know whether you have any symptoms at all? I know some people have alot of problems with heart burn, acid reflux etc. So I do wonder whether taking SN may aggravate acid production and cause pain and discomfort for you should you decide to use this method given your condition?

I am not too familiar with the SN Method but from a brief look at Stans SN Protocol in the resource section, it recommends the use of Antiemetics and Antacids.
The purposed of antiemetics is to help the SN remain in your stomach by reducing vomiting reflex.
The purpose of Antacids is to to help the movement of SN into your gut. One of the components of gastric juices is hydrochloric acid (HCL). When SN mixes with HCL, it converts to regular salt (NaCL).The antacid helps reduce that conversion so more SN moves into the small intestine. If there is excess salt in your stomach it can produce stomach discomfort which makes Antacids a good choice.

If you are thinking about using the SN Method, It may be neccesary for you to increase the amount of antacid/antiemetic given your condition? It might be worth just investigating this a bit further.Just a thought.
 
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cazwiz

Member
Feb 25, 2020
83
I have managed to get my hands on both Metoclopramide and Domperidone. If I took both together would that be a problem? Also, my betablockers are out of date. I'm imagine I can still take them but they would just be less effective?
 
Eren

Eren

Si hablas español mándame un MP
Oct 27, 2018
1,075
Hiatal Hernias arent caused by obesity., theyre usually age related, and may be caused by injury to that area, or from intense/persistent pressure on surrounding muscles. You can also be born with Hiatal henias. Obesity is a big risk factor though.
I dont know whether you have any symptoms at all? I know some people have alot of problems with heart burn, acid reflux etc. So I do wonder whether taking SN may aggravate acid production and cause pain and discomfort for you should you decide to use this method given your condition?

I am not too familiar with the SN Method but from a brief look at Stans SN Protocol in the resource section, it recommends the use of Antiemetics and Antacids.
The purposed of antiemetics is to help the SN remain in your stomach by reducing vomiting reflex.
The purpose of Antacids is to to help the movement of SN into your gut. One of the components of gastric juices is hydrochloric acid (HCL). When SN mixes with HCL, it converts to regular salt (NaCL).The antacid helps reduce that conversion so more SN moves into the small intestine. If there is excess salt in your stomach it can produce stomach discomfort which makes Antacids a good choice.

If you are thinking about using the SN Method, It may be neccesary for you to increase the amount of antacid/antiemetic given your condition? It might be worth just investigating this a bit further.Just a thought.


In my case, it occurred when I was very young, I had lactose intolerance problems and I vomited a lot, which caused my hernia.

I have issues like acid reflux, that's my biggest fear with SN.

I should do more research on SN, but all the SN guides are intended for people without hernia.

Thanks for the tips, I'll research it.
 
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Wisdom3_1-9

he/him/his
Jul 19, 2020
1,954
Vomiting is so painful sometimes, excruciating and who knows how long it'll go on for, the pain and overheating.
Honestly, for me, that's how I'll know I want it. Yes, the vomiting is gonna suck. But if I'm willing to put up with it and still put more SN in my system, then I know for sure death is what I want.
 
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noname223

Angelic
Aug 18, 2020
4,746
Have you noticed Amazon.com stopped the delivery of SN to many other countries? I think they recognized that this was illegal. I somehow fear that SN won't be available in 20 years when I want to cbt. How long is it durable without losing it's effect?
 
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Wisdom3_1-9

he/him/his
Jul 19, 2020
1,954
I somehow fear that SN won't be available in 20 years when I want to cbt. How long is it durable without losing it's effect?
20 years? I'm expecting it won't be available in 2 years.
 
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StellaArtoix

StellaArtoix

Student
Jul 25, 2020
130
In my case, it occurred when I was very young, I had lactose intolerance problems and I vomited a lot, which caused my hernia.

I have issues like acid reflux, that's my biggest fear with SN.

I should do more research on SN, but all the SN guides are intended for people without hernia.

Thanks for the tips, I'll research it.
I think its worth doing a bit more research, especially if this is the method your most interested in. I dont think it means that SN is necessarily a no go for you but your condition does introduce more variables that you have to look into and of course most of the information available is from people that dont have hernias. It may be as simple as increasing the antiemetic and antacid dose but without doing the research I could not say for sure.Have you looked at other chemicals like N perhaps?
 
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Eren

Si hablas español mándame un MP
Oct 27, 2018
1,075
I think its worth doing a bit more research, especially if this is the method your most interested in. I dont think it means that SN is necessarily a no go for you but your condition does introduce more variables that you have to look into and of course most of the information available is from people that dont have hernias. It may be as simple as increasing the antiemetic and antacid dose but without doing the research I could not say for sure.Have you looked at other chemicals like N perhaps?

I will investigate more. Sure I would like N but it's illegal.
 
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melp

Member
Aug 5, 2020
68
Non-steroidal analgesics such as ibuprofen and metamizole reduce the effect of propranolol. I don't know if they should be in the guides.
 
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DontHaveImagination

Member
Aug 5, 2020
6
After doing some digging it seems that it is illegal to sell this to consumers in EU, and I don't have faith in a suspicious white powder getting through customs in my country if ordering from outside EU. Has anyone in an EU country with an overly active customs office successfully ordered this?
 
PJFord

PJFord

Student
Jul 27, 2020
143
Water Type: Haven't seen this discussed in my research. Is plain tap water fine, or should we use purified water? I know we only use a small amount of water, so maybe it doesn't matter. Just curious if tap water reacts differently with SN, realizing municipal water supplies are different around the country.

Combining Methods: Any thoughts on drinking SN and then either 1) using a plastic bag hood over my head, or 2) partial suspension? Might be overkill, pun intended, but also might help ensure success.
 
StellaArtoix

StellaArtoix

Student
Jul 25, 2020
130
I will investigate more. Sure I would like N but it's illegal.
Oh ok. Can you buy off darkweb? See what you can find out about hernia and SN. Obviously there wont be anything specific to your needs so you will have to extraporlate and figure alot of this stuff out for yourself and with the help of members here. There are several members with medical knowledge on this forum. I have a reasonable amount too,I'm just loaded up with other stuff at the moment but when I get a chance to help u i will.
 
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ihateliving

Member
Feb 12, 2020
22
Anyone know anything about the blood test to test your sn before use ?
 
Eren

Eren

Si hablas español mándame un MP
Oct 27, 2018
1,075
Oh ok. Can you buy off darkweb? See what you can find out about hernia and SN. Obviously there wont be anything specific to your needs so you will have to extraporlate and figure alot of this stuff out for yourself and with the help of members here. There are several members with medical knowledge on this forum. I have a reasonable amount too,I'm just loaded up with other stuff at the moment but when I get a chance to help u i will.

N would be the ideal method, in fact it is for everyone. But buying on the darkweb has problems, I can be scammed, I have no way of knowing if the seller is legitimate or not. The package can also be left at customs and they can catch me, giving me a high fine or even forcing me to go to a psychiatric center.
 

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