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It also seems to me that Exit not only has a connection to Pegasos but also gatekeeps access. They help members apply to Pegasos and can supply someone to accompany them. These services are advertised on their website. It all brings in money. PN currently has a monopoly on the assisted suicide business.
That sounds very suspicious and even if legit, using a gmail account to do something like that is a terrible idea.
Agree. Sounds rather fishy.
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This change of email nonsense will backfire on them, someone could use an email address which has changed in the time between them obtaining it and ordering - ordering N is not usually something one does immediately, they get the info, mull it over, make the request, mull it over, then go back to D to confirm. These communications will break down if the email changes regularly, and as soon as an email address is ditched a scammer will register it and clean up. This is further evidence of PN's utterly mercenary nature, he makes his income foremostly as a link man to an international drug dealer and this is him safeguarding his profit.
It's risk v reward. Greater public scrutiny of this website plus increased interception of parcels leaves the vendor at greater risk if his contact is openly accessible. This way it can be argued that Nitschke is protecting his vendor so the people he decides are more deserving (those who are eligible to like and subscribe his ppeh) can continue to access their peaceful exit without the bad press of ostensibly healthy people under the age of 98 ordering it. Obviously this comes with an extra profit lining for PN which is his primary motivation.
Yeah, this is basically a drug dealing operation deciding to stop dealing to the local kids who attract negative attention and instead ramp up the price for their more discreet elite customers.
But theoretically D could just message one of the admins here a new email address every week using PGP, and the admin could put it up on the forum. He'd then have access to all SS people as customers. There's no reason he has to go through PN and the PPH. Unless he wants to keep his business on the dl as much as possible which could make sense.
Exactly. He doesn't do that. He is no doubt aware of that possibility yet he doesn't. It goes to Exit. Therefore there is clearly collusion. Right?
I'm not denying their could be collusion, I just don't get how it benefits D to collude in this way.
I think it arguably doesn't. I'm inclined to think this is purely manipulation by exit/PN. Thing is, they have a relationship. It was PN who anounced the drought way before it happened. They talk. Whether directly or through an intermediary. There's probably dirt they have on one another. The actions of Exit surrounding the ppeh and now essentials have always been indicative of the business first mindset. PN doesn't do his public appearances for free. They're shrewd, with a legal team looking out for them. I dare say someone in Exit could make D's life quite uncomfortable. It may not be wise but D will be aware of this potential so what's the smart move? Bear in mind that up until now there was no issue because the book got leaked and with it the email address so he could plead ignorance in their relationship. Now however that's not so easy but with increased LE scrutiny of late it suits D to go covert at the cost of 50% (very rough estimate) of sales for the time being. There are better ways to do things but that really means nothing. Just that they're not being implimented.
Nembutal has all but vanished from the dark net markets. There really was only one seller in the past selling it who is gone now. All the Chinese chemical companies selling in the past have also stopped. We'd honestly have more luck financing someone to fly to Cambodia or Thailand and go in person to find pharmacies or veterinary supply stores that will sell N without prescription. Or fundraise for someone over 50 to join the peaceful pill forums and leak us up to date information about Ds email address. If their are any admins or trusted members in the position to do this, I'd also contribute.
The fundraise for someone over 50 actually seems a very good idea.
I'm not in complete disagreement with the thrust of your post, in that we did have free access to it for a long time and people here were not sufficiently discreet about it. The thing is, Philip Nitschke *is* a mercenary grifter and his primary motive is cash, as evidenced by his own conduct over the years, and the principal selling point of his pph is the contact details of an international drug dealer. This is about profit, if there isn't money in it, Nitschke doesn't *do* it.
If this is on a darkweb site with the initials DFM, I know people have been scammed by sellers there. There may always be exceptions, but as far as I know, there aren't any legit sellers of N there.
Am I the only one who has seen the video and read the story about Nitschke's "Single Shot Coffee Pot?"
It's not.
Isn't your criticism more targeting the blame on a financial world as a whole ? It's possible to feel sorry for 3rd world participants who cannot even afford $100 and I do have such empathy but like I pointed it's about the normal and common price tag of many books sold retail, this one being electronic and maintained, it does not sound very much like a rip off at all to point the finger at. I could be the one questioning your integrity that the will for enrichment is obviously outrageous while there are swiss orgs who charge you $4000 (then 10k) straigth up to refund you only half for nothing done, while not going the way of educating yourself towards autonomy. I don't trust in saints myself so I won't. Anyway, at this price, one could also argue he had at heart to willingly keep the diffusion on the affordable side mainstream. Honestly, the argument is deniable and could go both ways unless someone read minds and hearts for sure. Like always with the complexity we are subject to in this world, must be a mixed reality
Doesn't exist anymore. That's an old post from when there was a wiki. Pre-NYT article. The wiki was prone to scammers due to the ability for members to edit and upload to it like any wiki. The useful stuff was migrated to the forum boards and the wiki itself removed. Ppeh is available in the suicide discussion section. Don't try to use any contact published for procurement of N though. They're outdated.
