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BrokenBliss

BrokenBliss

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Doesn't D asked for details first?
Yeh that's why it felt weird, because I'd already told him all that when I first replied to the generic email.
Like I said, I don't want to speculate too much. I just feel terrible right now.
D changed procedure recently, complaining too many people have been contacting him without following thru, wasting his time. He may want payment now before proceeding with communication. I've seen others say the same about the order of steps.
 
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Eden123

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May 13, 2020
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I posted the message about D not supplying anymore. I checked the peaceful pill handbook this evening and it was updated today. There is a paragraph about the worldwide shortage of pentobarbital and the fact that internet sellers are unable to source it.
D's address is still in the pph. It says he is someone who used to supply, and references the paragraph about worldwide shortage.
I hope he honours his orders.
I have never posted before because I haven't needed to; I just wanted to get this information out.
I can't be the only member of the pp forum on this site.
 
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yeh it's all gucci

yeh it's all gucci

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@Eden123 maybe I don't need my order anymore, you're going to give me a heart attack.
 
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Cathy Ames

Cathy Ames

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I posted the message about D not supplying anymore. I checked the peaceful pill handbook this evening and it was updated today. There is a paragraph about the worldwide shortage of pentobarbital and the fact that internet sellers are unable to source it.
D's address is still in the pph. It says he is someone who used to supply, and references the paragraph about worldwide shortage.
I hope he honours his orders.
I have never posted before because I haven't needed to; I just wanted to get this information out.
I can't be the only member of the pp forum on this site.
Thank you for the original post and for supplying the additional information! The shortage is verifiable via google. I found a mention of it recently while looking for something else.
 
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wljourney

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I posted the message about D not supplying anymore. I checked the peaceful pill handbook this evening and it was updated today. There is a paragraph about the worldwide shortage of pentobarbital and the fact that internet sellers are unable to source it.
D's address is still in the pph. It says he is someone who used to supply, and references the paragraph about worldwide shortage.
I hope he honours his orders.
I have never posted before because I haven't needed to; I just wanted to get this information out.
I can't be the only member of the pp forum on this site.
Thank you for sharing those details. Much appreciated.
 
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I posted the message about D not supplying anymore. I checked the peaceful pill handbook this evening and it was updated today. There is a paragraph about the worldwide shortage of pentobarbital and the fact that internet sellers are unable to source it.
D's address is still in the pph. It says he is someone who used to supply, and references the paragraph about worldwide shortage.
I hope he honours his orders.
I have never posted before because I haven't needed to; I just wanted to get this information out.
I can't be the only member of the pp forum on this site.
Interesting. I've read about the pentobarbital shortage for past couple years, especially for prison lethal injection. This is new to Exit info. Quite a startling change.
I posted the message about D not supplying anymore. I checked the peaceful pill handbook this evening and it was updated today. There is a paragraph about the worldwide shortage of pentobarbital and the fact that internet sellers are unable to source it.
D's address is still in the pph. It says he is someone who used to supply, and references the paragraph about worldwide shortage.
I hope he honours his orders.
I have never posted before because I haven't needed to; I just wanted to get this information out.
I can't be the only member of the pp forum on this site.
Hey @Eden123 - would you be willing to take a screenshot of that section in the the PPH and share it here? I believe you have to be 50 y/o and a member of Exit for a month before you can even access those boards, so most people here won't be on them. Being able to read it would be helpful for many.
 
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There has been mention of the shortage of nembutal internationally since I bought the e book 2 months ago. It is still noted in the book as of today but there is nothing that refers to D as someone who used to supply. I'm wondering if it's the way the paragraph reads that has caused confusion.
Do you have the e-book or the hard copy?
 
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Cathy Ames

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There has been mention of the shortage of nembutal internationally since I bought the e book 2 months ago. It is still noted in the book as of today but there is nothing that refers to D as someone who used to supply. I'm wondering if it's the way the paragraph reads that has caused c

The E book. I go to the website and login and it's available once logged in
So I'm really confused then because I thought that the e-book was the one that had D's contact info. They removed it?
 
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oziinnz

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Do you have the e-book or the hard copy?
Attention please disregard my comments I'm too confused. I'm thinking @Eden123 is correct. Sorry for my confusion. I honestly don't know what's what even with access to the E handbook.
 
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Red Scare

Red Scare

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Interesting. I've read about the pentobarbital shortage for past couple years, especially for prison lethal injection. This is new to Exit info. Quite a startling change.
I have just been googling it, and apparently the shortage in 2020, affected veterinarians throughout 2021 but that by halfway through the 2021 year, pentobarbital had resumed production and shipping to suppliers of veterinary drugs.

This article says availability resumed in 2022. So it may be something else, some reason D has decided to back out of supplying it.
 
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I have just been googling it, and apparently the shortage in 2020, affected veterinarians throughout 2021 but that by halfway through the 2021 year, pentobarbital had resumed production and shipping to suppliers of veterinary drugs.

This article says availability resumed in 2022. So it may be something else, some reason D has decided to back out of supplying it.
This issue with the veterinary products appears separate from their not being able to source it for lethal injection of death row inmates and the high expense of the human products. I wasn't paying close attention to the dates. Thanks for pointing that out.
 
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Ta555

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I have just been googling it, and apparently the shortage in 2020, affected veterinarians throughout 2021 but that by halfway through the 2021 year, pentobarbital had resumed production and shipping to suppliers of veterinary drugs.

This article says availability resumed in 2022. So it may be something else, some reason D has decided to back out of supplying it.
Personally I don't think it has anything to do with a shortage but a flow on consequence of the article fiasco in December. Ever since that article was published we have a lot of very new members influx and D has probably been contacted by a lot of people and way too much. Also too many people probably asking questions without doing research or being needy and emailing too many times when they don't get an immediate response.

I mean how many times have we seen an account only one or two days old pestering for Ds contact info, or posting how he is scamming because he didn't reply the same day. It's probably getting frustrating for him. Also there's probably a lot more moles and he's being wary. I knew something like this would happen after that goddamn article and here we are.
 
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_Seeking

_Seeking

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Dec 16, 2021
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I have a subscription as I am over 50. I just checked and Eden123 is correct that there is now a section on the global shortage, it still lists source B (D)'s e-mail and says that he supplied "until the global shortage..." and then says "payment is/was by Bitcoin or Monero". So it looks like they are still listing him but are unsure if he is still currently a reliable source.

I don't know how to upload screenshots, but here is what the new section says:
"Since mid-2021 there has been a slow, building global shortage of veterinary Nembutal. This has occurred both because of the pandemic but also because of a reported catastrophic incident at one of the two global manufacturing sites of the drug (see https://www.sheltervet.org/assets/PDFs/Euthanasia solution shortage in shelters_final.pdf ). While the shortage has been many months in the making, it was not until the second quarter of 2022 that the impact of the lack of supply started to be felt. While Nembutal can still be purchased over-the-counter in some Sth American countries, its availability on the Internet has been significantly impacted. Those who trade (illegally) in Nembutal cannot get supply."
 
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Cathy Ames

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This article says availability resumed in 2022.
Reading to the summary, they say "While the pentobarbital shortage may extend into late 2022, manufacturers are currently working to restore operations and improve the supply chain." It could be that things are returning to normal in the US and Canada but are still askew elsewhere.
 
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silent staring void

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Jan 22, 2020
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Wow. It seems messed up to me that PN would keep the source in the PPH if he does not know if it is reliable anymore.
Also, just a reminder that the former source A also went from reliable to a scammer when he couldn't get supply anymore. I've seen some people say "D would never scam." He is a drug dealer who does not care about any of us.

Could anyone who has the new PPH maybe take a photo of the computer screen and post it here if you don't know how to screenshot?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
just had to get it off my chest
 
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VoidDesirer22

VoidDesirer22

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Sep 6, 2021
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He is a drug dealer who does not care about any of us.
Then why the fk is he so considerate about when the package is broken or something. You can argue he does that to uphold the best image, but then that's just like all the salesman of the world. You can get philosophical and argue everybody is in for themselves, but D certainly has been considerate.

I have a soft spot for him.
I have a subscription as I am over 50. I just checked and Eden123 is correct that there is now a section on the global shortage, it still lists source B (D)'s e-mail and says that he supplied "until the global shortage..." and then says "payment is/was by Bitcoin or Monero". So it looks like they are still listing him but are unsure if he is still currently a reliable source.

I don't know how to upload screenshots, but here is what the new section says:
"Since mid-2021 there has been a slow, building global shortage of veterinary Nembutal. This has occurred both because of the pandemic but also because of a reported catastrophic incident at one of the two global manufacturing sites of the drug (see https://www.sheltervet.org/assets/PDFs/Euthanasia solution shortage in shelters_final.pdf ). While the shortage has been many months in the making, it was not until the second quarter of 2022 that the impact of the lack of supply started to be felt. While Nembutal can still be purchased over-the-counter in some Sth American countries, its availability on the Internet has been significantly impacted. Those who trade (illegally) in Nembutal cannot get supply."
It is safe to say N just became 10x more valuable. Even other illegal drugs aren't this unobtainable.
I will add -- always keep it short and to the point in communications with D. I think he appreciates confidence, vs asking him how to use btc, for
I really think he wishes all interactions were like that. I made sure to be straight to the point. Our exchange was so pleasant in that business sense.
 
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lostmylove

lostmylove

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Apr 1, 2022
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Oh no. I haven't ordered yet, am I fucked?. What the hell
 
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Red Scare

Red Scare

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Reading to the summary, they say "While the pentobarbital shortage may extend into late 2022, manufacturers are currently working to restore operations and improve the supply chain." It could be that things are returning to normal in the US and Canada but are still askew elsewhere.
Thanks for pointing that out, I had seemingly glossed over that detail.

Its not altogether clear though if this is why D is no longer selling it. I don't know if that is just something Exit is saying to save face with their readership without being able to offer a clear alternative. Of course I have no evidence, but I have the same feeling as others that maybe this forum and recent articles potentially put some heat on him.
 
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Thanks for pointing that out, I had seemingly glossed over that detail.

Its not altogether clear though if this is why D is no longer selling it. I don't know if that is just something Exit is saying to save face with their readership without being able to offer a clear alternative. Of course I have no evidence, but I have the same feeling as others that maybe this forum and recent articles potentially put some heat on him.
Additionally, he is clearly filthy rich now. I hope BTC skyrockets for his sake.
 
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fizi22

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so did D reply to emails saying hes out of business or he he stop shipping to those who paid for the stuff? is this just all speculation still?
 
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Apr 1, 2022
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I seriously can't afford to not get this . I need this I can't be trapped here waiting for a new unknown seller . Fuck I'm so stupid for not ordering last week
 
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so did D reply to emails saying hes out of business or he he stop shipping to those who paid for the stuff? is this just all speculation still?
- there may have been emails to that extend between D and Nietzsche but we don't know.
- as long as parcels are showing up, we should assume he is still in business and at a minimum honouring paid orders.
- we need to wait and see if he replies to new orders.
- Anyone who gets replies to whichever extent should post here to give everyone a bit more clarity.
 
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Oh ffs I hope he is still in business :(
 
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steve_s5

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What you think when N does not supply maybe anymore what would be the best method for peaceful dying after nembutal?
I think maybe shooting himself something with a bigger caliber .45 acp or i think that would be a painless dead*
 
Foresight

Foresight

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I'm seriously going to try not to worry about this but god damn I'm internally screaming. This is the first year I'll actually be able to afford it.
 
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Red Scare

Red Scare

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Mar 1, 2022
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What you think when N does not supply maybe anymore what would be the best method for peaceful dying after nembutal?
I think maybe shooting himself something with a bigger caliber .45 acp or i think that would be a painless dead*
No. And it is prone to failure.

Opiates are probably the next most peaceful option.
 
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