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- Feb 13, 2023
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It's strange that people say to keep the position at the base of the neck, when you look at the pictures in suicide wiki the end result is many people hanging by the rope which has slid up to under the jaw.. I don't know how you can avoid that. Perhaps it's just the initial position that has to be maintained before passing out, then it doesn't matter after unconscious has reached? Does anyone else have an opinion?
- Put the slip knot BELOW your Adam's apple somewhere (you'll need to experiment to find the right spot, but it's pretty easy to find the first few tries). I found that if it is above my Adam's apple, it is harder to lose consciousness and is more painful than it needs to be.
I fucking failed. The cable snapped I tried it out before attempting and it was fine. Guess I should've tested it better. I will attempt again the next next few days.I just thought this information is better off here now, because the original source has been taken down.
If this violates any rules or if the author doesn't want this information to be reproduced on other sites, the admins or mods are free to delete my thread. I hope you don't mind, this is very useful, and it's not my intention to steal Loe's content.
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Guide to partially suspended hanging:
Warning: Don't try this method unless you're totally sure that:
a) you want to kill yourself
b) that you won't be found for at least 30 minutes after you attempt.
This method is very lethal and quick (quick from your perspective
anyway, as you black out within seconds), but if you're found in time
and 'saved' you can end up with serious brain damage and/or be left a
vegetable.
Why partial suspension?
Because full suspension seems to me to be unnecessary and creates
difficulties. First of all you need to find a place which would hold
your entire weight, which isn't easy, and also you need a stronger
ligature, which isn't always easy to find either. There's nothing
wrong with full suspension, but it may not be a viable method for
everyone, especially if you're looking to use everyday materials from
around the home.
By partial suspension I mean that you hang yourself around the neck
(specifically the carotid artery), and push downwards while kneeling.
This should create enough downward pressure on the ligature to tighten
it and close the carotid artery and stop the blood flow to your brain.
All you need is 3 kilograms of pressure to do this, which isn't much
at all.
Also, with full suspension your entire body weight is pressurizing
your neck, and this would probably be more than enough to not only cut
off the blood supply to your brain, but break your neck as well. I'm
not too sure if that's a good or a bad thing. I do know though, that
statistically people who've attempted via hanging have more often been
found kneeling and partially suspended than being fully suspended.
Where is the carotid artery?
Before you start you have to know this. If you place your hand around
the middle of your neck, around your Adam's apple, with one thumb on
one side and all fingers on the other, you should feel a strong pulse
and heartbeat. If you close your hand now fairly firmly, you'll
probably make yourself pass out. It might be a good idea to try this
to make sure you've got the right spot.
What type of ligature?
You need a ligature that's strong, but not too elastic. It doesn't
have to be very long, 1 meter or more would be plenty. I'd advise
against nylon rope, string, fishing wire, etc.
Neckties on the other hand, are perfect Smile .
It may also be a good idea to lubricate the ligature with soap. This
would help the noose tighten even quicker, especially if you're using
a rough ligature such as a rope. Lubricating it in this way will
increase the friction once you push your head down and tighten the
noose, and could make it a little more effective and faster.
What type of knot?
A slipknot. It's one of the most basic knots around, and you make it
with one end of your ligature. The other end should go around your
hanging place.
Many people have the misguided idea that a hangman's knot should be
used, but they're wrong. A hangman's knot is for a completely
different purpose, and won't work for this method.
Where should I hang?
You should hang from a support which will hold part of your weight.
You should test this by tying the loose end of your ligature around
the support several times, sticking your hand (NOT your head) in the
noose and pushing down with it. If the noose holds, you're fine. If
not, then you'll have to find another spot.
A great and easy place to hang is from the thick horizontal metal bar
which you find in wardrobes in most homes.
When should I do it?
When no one else will be in the same area, for at least 30 minutes.
You lose consciousness within seconds but your body doesn't completely
die for around 15-20 minutes. The extra 10-15 minutes is for
preparation time and just in case.
How?
When you're completely ready, kneel down, stick your head in the
noose, position it around the carotid artery and push downwards with
your head.
Good luck...
Doorknob means you tie your rope on the doorknob then throw the rope over the door and hang yourself on the opposite side (other side of the doorknob)How would I bang myself with a belt from a doorknob? Ie what specifically are the logistics? I know Kate spade and robin Williams died this way but I can't figire it out!!!
I am a bit lost as to how to CTB with this knot. It just needs to be pulled on one end to release whatever it is holding...What type of knot?
A slipknot. It's one of the most basic knots around, and you make it
with one end of your ligature. The other end should go around your
hanging place.
hi, so i'm back with more questions. about finding the sweet spot... does it even matter for full suspension? i can't really get it right on my own, but what can really go wrong if my full weight is pulling the knot? also i'm sure it'll slip up anyway to the jaw, so that's where i'd tighten it, or am i wrong about that? also will a cotton bdsm rope do? i was looking online and weirdly enough those are the easiest to find. so any pros and cons between cotton and nylon i should know about?
i rlly appreciate this thread btw, thank you all
Appreciate.Sorry for english what is cbt ?
Well all I can afford is a rope or a necktie, so I'll be going with this idea very soon, thanks for sharingI just thought this information is better off here now, because the original source has been taken down.
If this violates any rules or if the author doesn't want this information to be reproduced on other sites, the admins or mods are free to delete my thread. I hope you don't mind, this is very useful, and it's not my intention to steal Loe's content.
Source and credit: Loe
Guide to partially suspended hanging:
Warning: Don't try this method unless you're totally sure that:
a) you want to kill yourself
b) that you won't be found for at least 30 minutes after you attempt.
This method is very lethal and quick (quick from your perspective
anyway, as you black out within seconds), but if you're found in time
and 'saved' you can end up with serious brain damage and/or be left a
vegetable.
Why partial suspension?
Because full suspension seems to me to be unnecessary and creates
difficulties. First of all you need to find a place which would hold
your entire weight, which isn't easy, and also you need a stronger
ligature, which isn't always easy to find either. There's nothing
wrong with full suspension, but it may not be a viable method for
everyone, especially if you're looking to use everyday materials from
around the home.
By partial suspension I mean that you hang yourself around the neck
(specifically the carotid artery), and push downwards while kneeling.
This should create enough downward pressure on the ligature to tighten
it and close the carotid artery and stop the blood flow to your brain.
All you need is 3 kilograms of pressure to do this, which isn't much
at all.
Also, with full suspension your entire body weight is pressurizing
your neck, and this would probably be more than enough to not only cut
off the blood supply to your brain, but break your neck as well. I'm
not too sure if that's a good or a bad thing. I do know though, that
statistically people who've attempted via hanging have more often been
found kneeling and partially suspended than being fully suspended.
Where is the carotid artery?
Before you start you have to know this. If you place your hand around
the middle of your neck, around your Adam's apple, with one thumb on
one side and all fingers on the other, you should feel a strong pulse
and heartbeat. If you close your hand now fairly firmly, you'll
probably make yourself pass out. It might be a good idea to try this
to make sure you've got the right spot.
What type of ligature?
You need a ligature that's strong, but not too elastic. It doesn't
have to be very long, 1 meter or more would be plenty. I'd advise
against nylon rope, string, fishing wire, etc.
Neckties on the other hand, are perfect Smile .
It may also be a good idea to lubricate the ligature with soap. This
would help the noose tighten even quicker, especially if you're using
a rough ligature such as a rope. Lubricating it in this way will
increase the friction once you push your head down and tighten the
noose, and could make it a little more effective and faster.
What type of knot?
A slipknot. It's one of the most basic knots around, and you make it
with one end of your ligature. The other end should go around your
hanging place.
Many people have the misguided idea that a hangman's knot should be
used, but they're wrong. A hangman's knot is for a completely
different purpose, and won't work for this method.
Where should I hang?
You should hang from a support which will hold part of your weight.
You should test this by tying the loose end of your ligature around
the support several times, sticking your hand (NOT your head) in the
noose and pushing down with it. If the noose holds, you're fine. If
not, then you'll have to find another spot.
A great and easy place to hang is from the thick horizontal metal bar
which you find in wardrobes in most homes.
When should I do it?
When no one else will be in the same area, for at least 30 minutes.
You lose consciousness within seconds but your body doesn't completely
die for around 15-20 minutes. The extra 10-15 minutes is for
preparation time and just in case.
How?
When you're completely ready, kneel down, stick your head in the
noose, position it around the carotid artery and push downwards with
your head.
Good luck...
I think they discourage it for the discomfort. But in the proper way anything - including belts - could be used as a ligature if you manage to attach into a anchor point and not being interrupted.I thought I would just use a belt I have at home instead of buying rope but I keep seeing people say not to use a belt but not giving any reason why. Would I really be likely to fail if I used a belt? I just didn't want to have to go out and buy anything
I don't have to worry about being interrupted because I live alone. I saw someone say on another forum that their brother nailed the other end of the belt to a wall. I'd have to test if my body weight would keep it from ripping out though. I probably should just go get some rope though to be more certain. This thread was really calming for me with feeling the certainty of this being successful since I won't be interrupted after I pass out but then I saw other threads where people made it sound like it's impossible to overcome SI with it and I got discouraged again. I need to be successful with thisI think they discourage it for the discomfort. But in the proper way anything - including belts - could be used as a ligature if you manage to attach into a anchor point and not being interrupted.
SUpossedly RObin Williams hanged himself with a belt.
Or is it just cutting of oxygen?potentially dumb question, but isn't the carotid sinus involved in losing consciousness quickly or is it solely just constriction of bloodflow?
I disagree. Hitting the "sweet spots" are to cut of the blood flow to the brain so as to pass out quickly and painlessly. I don't want to strangle myself; suffocating would be excruciating I imagine. I'm looking for the "blood choke" and to go out that way.You are completely right, the carotide arteries run parallel to the trachea and the rope will cross them anyway. There are no sweet points in connection with hanging. Sweet points are only important when you want to use your fingers to black out.
When you buy a rope (no matter what the material is) they have to tell you the maximum admissible rope force. To be sure that the rope does not break it should carry your weight twice. You get ropes in every construction market or boatshop.
I disagree. Hitting the "sweet spots" are to cut of the blood flow to the brain so as to pass out quickly and painlessly. I don't want to strangle myself; suffocating would be excruciating I imagine. I'm looking for the "blood choke" and to go out that way.
Even with full suspension?You don´t have to search them, the rope wil find them automatically.
Even with full suspension?