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tams

tams

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Mar 27, 2023
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For full the rope should be high on the neck, under the jaw. If it is lower, it will just get pulled up and that will not feel good.
Partial is different. A little practice will let you know the correct placement. There are more variables.
Thanks. What would the other variables be?
 
Worndown

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Mar 21, 2019
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Partial is almost all variables. Probably why so many fail. Full has four elements that are fairly easy to accomplish. It does require that first step.
 
chr74

chr74

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Mar 29, 2023
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i was experimenting with partial today, and i feel like i found a position which might work, which is 'in a close to sitting position' but your butt isnt actually touching the floor. legs spread out wide before you. due to the rope coming from a loft hatch though, i dont have my back to anything such as a wall or door.

my worry is, it feels like it might work as long as i wouldnt thrash around too much, but i guess there's no way of knowing how much you would thrash around
 
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cutejellybean

cutejellybean

My CTB date is June 20, 2023
Apr 13, 2023
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For full suspension with slipknot, should you place the rope directly on the carotid arteries? And should the slipknot just be on the back of the neck??
 
Worndown

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Mar 21, 2019
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The rope should be high under the jaw with the rope going up somewhere at the back if your head. That puts full pressure where needed.
 
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kernel_panic

Feb 11, 2023
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I made a thread about this, but it's probably better to post here, so I deleted it.

So recently, I found this thread and thought "why not use this with hanging?". My only issue with partial is that I'm not able to keep the rope at the bottom of my neck, which is where my sweet spot is. So I can't do it in a painless way.

Here's the solution I came up with:
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The primary rope will compress the airway and prevent me from falling down. I'll hold onto a chair to make sure it doesn't hurt before I lose consciousness. Diameter of the rope doesn't matter here, it just has to be strong enough to hold me and the backpack. I'll use my 12 mm braided polyester rope.

The secondary rope will compress my carotid arteries. The knot will be pulled down by the backpack and always be at the bottom of the neck, where it's the easiest to compress the arteries. A thin rope should be used. I'll use a 6 mm rubber cable. I pulled myself up multiple times on it, so it can definitely hold the backpack. Just in case, I'll hang the backpack with it for an hour.

The backpack doesn't have to be very heavy. 5 kg should be enough, but more can be added for extra safety. I tested it with less than 5 kg and it completely constricted my arteries every single time. It didn't hurt at all.

I'll also cross my legs and tie them up to make it impossible to stand up.

Here's exactly what I'll do:
  1. Cross and tie up the legs.
  2. Put the secondary slip knot on the neck, tighten it, push it to the bottom and center the knot on the back. Hold the backpack with one hand.
  3. Put the primary slip knot on the neck, tighten it and center the knot on the back.
  4. Stop holding the backpack. Approximately 8 seconds until loss of consciousness occurs.
  5. Quickly hold onto the chair, lower yourself down as much as possible before the rope stops you, and move your feet back as much as you can.
Knees can't touch the ground and the backpack can't touch the ground or legs.

This can also be used with full hanging to guarantee a quick loss of consciousness. Any thoughts?


Edit: I'll probably just buy a 6 mm braided polyester rope instead of using the cable. I have lots of time.
 
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chr74

chr74

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Mar 29, 2023
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hi it seems very complicated but wishing you luck with your attempt
 
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kernel_panic

Feb 11, 2023
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I made a thread about this, but it's probably better to post here, so I deleted it.

So recently, I found this thread and thought "why not use this with hanging?". My only issue with partial is that I'm not able to keep the rope at the bottom of my neck, which is where my sweet spot is. So I can't do it in a painless way.

Here's the solution I came up with:
View attachment 108557

The primary rope will compress the airway and prevent me from falling down. I'll hold onto a chair to make sure it doesn't hurt before I lose consciousness. Diameter of the rope doesn't matter here, it just has to be strong enough to hold me and the backpack. I'll use my 12 mm braided polyester rope.

The secondary rope will compress my carotid arteries. The knot will be pulled down by the backpack and always be at the bottom of the neck, where it's the easiest to compress the arteries. A thin rope should be used. I'll use a 6 mm rubber cable. I pulled myself up multiple times on it, so it can definitely hold the backpack. Just in case, I'll hang the backpack with it for an hour.

The backpack doesn't have to be very heavy. 5 kg should be enough, but more can be added for extra safety. I tested it with less than 5 kg and it completely constricted my arteries every single time. It didn't hurt at all.

I'll also cross my legs and tie them up to make it impossible to stand up.

Here's exactly what I'll do:
  1. Cross and tie up the legs.
  2. Put the secondary slip knot on the neck, tighten it, push it to the bottom and center the knot on the back. Hold the backpack with one hand.
  3. Put the primary slip knot on the neck, tighten it and center the knot on the back.
  4. Stop holding the backpack. Approximately 8 seconds until loss of consciousness occurs.
  5. Quickly hold onto the chair, lower yourself down as much as possible before the rope stops you, and move your feet back as much as you can.
Knees can't touch the ground and the backpack can't touch the ground or legs.

This can also be used with full hanging to guarantee a quick loss of consciousness. Any thoughts?


Edit: I'll probably just buy a 6 mm braided polyester rope instead of using the cable. I have lots of time.
Correction: the backpack actually weighted 7.7 kg during the tests, not less than 5 kg. I plan on increasing the weight to approximately 15 kg. It'll be hard to hold it with one hand, so I'll just turn back and rest it on back of the chair.

Edit: I'm not actually sure whether my anchor point could handle that. While my pull up bar is technically rated at 100 kg (which should be enough), the forces are distributed differently when pulling up with 2 hands compared to attaching a rope in the center. I'll just lower my knees to the ground. It shouldn't make a big difference.
 
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lmnop

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Apr 6, 2023
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okay i don't wanna sound stupid but i'm kinda confused on the partial suspension with the bent knee position?

do you just have to hold bend knees until you become unconscious? and obviously not let SI make you wanna stand up or is there more to it that i'm missing?

also would a bannister be strong enough to hang from
 
Worndown

Worndown

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Mar 21, 2019
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okay i don't wanna sound stupid but i'm kinda confused on the partial suspension with the bent knee position?

do you just have to hold bend knees until you become unconscious? and obviously not let SI make you wanna stand up or is there more to it that i'm missing?

also would a bannister be strong enough to hang from
That's about it. The hard part is not standing. You do need to really put your weight into it and hold that to pass out quickly. Then gravity should to the rest.
A bannister should be ok. Make sure the force pulls down and not to the side. You would not want to break it.
 
Dune

Dune

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Nov 6, 2022
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Why does the guide recommend a slip knot over a noose? I find the noose to tighten and be almost impossible to un-tighten, and a slip knot sounds like it could un-slip
 
Worndown

Worndown

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Slip knots are preferred. They slide and tighten the easiest.
 
Dune

Dune

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Nov 6, 2022
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Well I just tried with a belt hanging in the closet. WOW is it easy to pass out. Only took like 4 seconds of half-pressure. If it was secured to anything I would be dead rn 100%. A few more seconds and it would have been lights out. Anybody see any potential problems with this? Assuming it's secured well
 
54378

54378

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Jan 23, 2023
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Anybody see any potential problems with this? Assuming it's secured well
I don't think there are any potential problems if it is secured well and you don't get interrupted.
 
tynki

tynki

Arriving somewhere but not here...
Apr 8, 2018
16
How to test the rope? i did some knots for my feet and stood there it seems it holds
Will it be enough for full susp?
 
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loopdaloop

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Apr 16, 2023
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While browsing the news came across a mention of a random retail employee at a store who hung themselves in the storeroom during his shift and succeeded , kinda gives hope this method might work if people manage to do in less than optimal circumstances
 
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With this silly rope is possible.
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I have only two options. 5th floor or bedsheets. What I must choose?
I have only two options. 5th floor or bedsheets. What I must choose?
I have only two options. 5th floor or bedsheets. What I must choose?
 
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thecolourgold

thecolourgold

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Apr 22, 2023
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116mg Valium, 400mg Trazodone, and 5 Unisom. I took all the pills after i got set up. About 10 mins standing there i try 3 times. The 3rd time I passount and wake up 2 days later in a psych ward.
How quickly did they find you? I cannot go inpatient again but I can't take this.
 
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toofargone6969

toofargone6969

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Apr 29, 2023
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Why does this have to be so fucking complicated. Really its frustrating.
Go with a good slip knot and a strong tree limb. Full will let you pass out quickly...you already know about that.
Neck breaking is done by professionals and in movies. Do not try that at home!
Will it really though? For full does it matter at all where you put the rope or is just as simple as putting it on and stepping off. I would hate to be in excruciating pain for a long time
 
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dogato

Member
Apr 27, 2023
8
Well I just tried with a belt hanging in the closet. WOW is it easy to pass out. Only took like 4 seconds of half-pressure. If it was secured to anything I would be dead rn 100%. A few more seconds and it would have been lights out. Anybody see any potential problems with this? Assuming it's secured well

Could you give some more information? What type of belt, and how did you do it?
 
Dune

Dune

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Nov 6, 2022
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Just a flat leather belt. Looped it and brought it as close to the chin as possible and hit the carotid or whatever.
 
I_want_to_sleep

I_want_to_sleep

Member
Mar 22, 2023
43
Would using a noose knot still be as effective as the slip knot? It seems like it will wrap itself around my neck quite quickly as I lower myself. I'm looking to do this through partial suspension if that matters, most likely in the third position shown in the diagram of the original post on this thread.
 
I_want_to_sleep

I_want_to_sleep

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Mar 22, 2023
43
Would using a noose knot still be as effective as the slip knot? It seems like it will wrap itself around my neck quite quickly as I lower myself. I'm looking to do this through partial suspension if that matters, most likely in the third position shown in the diagram of the original post on this thread.
Nevermind, I'm pretty set on using the slip knot now so I don't really need an answer for this.
 
I_want_to_sleep

I_want_to_sleep

Member
Mar 22, 2023
43
Do y'all think 6mm for diameter would be too short? The website says the maximum weight is 900kg so all good there, but it also says that the maximum breaking strength (unsure if this is the correct word in English) is 9kN. Would that be enough?
From what I've read 6mm is good. Also, a lot of pictures I've seen of people after successfully hanging themselves used ropes of a similar diameter so it must work.

9kN translates to about 900kg so you don't have anything to worry about. The rope I'm using can hold 130 kg and can easily hold my weight despite being safely above average in that department.

Don't take my word for it, do some more research just to be sure. I just thought I'd give my take considering I do not think you got any other responses to your question.
 
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melk_77

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Jan 23, 2023
1
Recently I've attempted partial suspension three times, but I clearly must be doing something wrong. Maybe you could help me.

For the first two attempts I was sitting with my back against the door (I'm using door handle as anchor point - maybe it's not the best, but I've gotta work with what I have here). The noose was above the adam's apple, just below jaw. It was very uncomfortable, because I immediately had this strong urge to swallow, and swallowing with the noose positioned there was very painful. I could feel the pressure building up in my head, but I didn't feel like I'm going to lose consciousness.

On my third attempt two days ago I've tried something different. This time I was kneeling in front of the door and placed the noose below my adam's apple, near the base of the neck. It made swallowing much more comfortable, without any pain, however I could feel that pressure in my head is also much higher. It felt like my head is going to explode, but again, I didn't had any feeling of drifting into unconsciousness.

At every attempt I counted internally to around 30-40 seconds. On lostallhope website it says that it should take less than 15 seconds. I also saw a video that was posted here demonstrating a girl who lost consciousness after a few seconds of suspension. If I can count past 15, then I'm doing something wrong, but I don't know what. Do you have any suggestions?
 
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Taraxias

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Feb 22, 2020
359
What kind of rope is the best to use and what width?
Also how long has the rope have to be for full suspension?
I am 140 kilos 1.90 height
 
Worndown

Worndown

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Mar 21, 2019
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I recommend double braided dock line. Strong, soft and supple. You deserve it!
Get it about the width if your thumb. It will apply the pressure needed but will not bite into the skin. Be comfortable.
Estimate the length needed from tie down to your neck when standing on your chair. Get something longer. It would suck to be standing there all ready to go and the damned rope is a foot too short.
Best of luck!
 
favouriteworstnight

favouriteworstnight

down in a hole
May 14, 2023
19
00:01 kick the chair
00:20 fall unconscious
00:24 body starts thrashing around
01:45 body stops thrasing around

this is not 100% accurate
 
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Taraxias

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Feb 22, 2020
359
I recommend double braided dock line. Strong, soft and supple. You deserve it!
Get it about the width if your thumb. It will apply the pressure needed but will not bite into the skin. Be comfortable.
Estimate the length needed from tie down to your neck when standing on your chair. Get something longer. It would suck to be standing there all ready to go and the damned rope is a foot too short.
Best of luck!
A 12 mm polyester rope sounds good?
I will order it online it is called rope for scotta. Dont know what that means ,does it look like a good one?
Arround 10 meters is good or is it to much?
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corazon

corazon

"a heart's a heavy burden"
Mar 30, 2023
91
A 12 mm polyester rope sounds good?
I will order it online it is called rope for scotta. Dont know what that means ,does it look like a good one?
Arround 10 meters is good or is it to much?
I recently bought a 12mm rope and it's 15 metres, which is way more than what I need, but too much is always going to beat not enough. It says it's cotton cord rope which is fairly soft to touch but I'm yet to test it out.

does it look like a good one?
It's hard to tell from an image and I've never heard of rope for scotta either (I'm no rope guru). I found it helpful to actually feel the textures of the rope options in my local hardware store for the most comfortable one possible - but if you order online, it could be just as fine too. I'll probably end up using some light padding for my neck anyway. Keep in mind that I'm shooting for partial suspension and my situation may not apply for you :)
 

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