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Dystopia

Dystopia

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Jul 22, 2019
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Oxy what, please? We're beginners here. And what does "banging pill binder" mean, please and thank you?

Oxy = Oxycodone
I think he means as these generally come as pills you'd be injecting the coating / binding agent as well as the substance as you'd have to crush the pills up and then them into an injectable solution.
 
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Fordprefect

Fordprefect

Student
Aug 22, 2019
128
Check this out. A real junkie cooking up and shooting up. 5:15 until 8:00
Easy as fuck. And the vein HE'S using is hard to hit.

 
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allgood

allgood

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Jul 17, 2019
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Oxy what, please? We're beginners here. And what does "banging pill binder" mean, please and thank you?
Oh, referring to the drug oxycodone instant release formulation, I mean that when you inject a crushed pill you'll also be injecting the binder that makes up the rest of the pill's weight. Not great for your veins, but not gonna kill ya :)
 
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eve2004

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Aug 17, 2019
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Oxycodone I think, and pill binder is probably the other crap they put in with the chemical to make it in pill form. Starch and other stuff. Maybe colouring. Pure powder would not contain the binder stuff but could have who knows what other drugs mixed in it...

(I'm no expert so I could be wrong...)
 
Soul

Soul

gate gate paragate parasamgate bodhi svaha
Apr 12, 2019
4,705
Watching people chase with pen tubes annoys me so much, like you're missing out on all the tasty residue when you run out of bags!!

Many of those you'd call junkies manage to hold down a job, act and look respectable, you wouldn't expect them to be buying a 3 for £20 every morning. It's only because the visible ones become the stereotype, while the rest of us are people you couldn't pick out from a crowd.

Ahh there you go again: "chase with pen tubes"? "tasty residue"?? We're beginners here, and don't know what that means.

And we're supposed to be talking about using these drugs to kill ourselves, not how to have a fine time with them. Although I grasp that there's a fine time to be had. 8]
 
Soul

Soul

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Apr 12, 2019
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My parents are extremely anti drug, they see junkies as subhumans. I do sort of too. They teached me that only idiots take drugs, any drugs. I think they are not wrong, no i dont have empathy for druggies.

That's 100% irrelevant to this thread. We're trying to create a resource for people who want to commit suicide, not a discussion of your personal attitudes and their ancestry. Thanks.
 
Fordprefect

Fordprefect

Student
Aug 22, 2019
128
This is one of the best videos on cooking up and injecting:



And another one on the subject of citric acid for brown heroin:

 
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allgood

allgood

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Jul 17, 2019
171
This is one of the best videos on cooking up and injecting:



And another one on the subject of citric acid for brown heroin:


Good vid though Americans should be aware that salt heroin won't need citric. Side note i love exchangesupplies.
 
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Fordprefect

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Aug 22, 2019
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Good vid though Americans should be aware that salt heroin won't need citric. Side note i love exchangesupplies.
Yeah, I did mention earlier that if it's white or greyish you don't need citric. And sometimes citric has already been added to brown.
 
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ThatIsTheQuestion

Ghost in Waiting
Aug 4, 2019
104
How long can I let the H sit in the oral syringe before I have to use it?
 
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Dale

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Aug 28, 2019
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H sounds like a good path, except i hate needles and always had difficulty drawing blood so any possibility of oral method? its small and easier to get then N, any chance of survival even at the 1.5G ? what about the veins on your wrist is that doable?
 
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allgood

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Jul 17, 2019
171
H sounds like a good path, except i hate needles and always had difficulty drawing blood so any possibility of oral method? its small and easier to get then N, any chance of survival even at the 1.5G ? what about the veins on your wrist is that doable?
Perfectly possible to take orally, but it will skip first pass metabolism so it's better to consider it morphine at that point. Morphine has a very low oral bioavailability (10-15%) and therefore you'd likely need more than 1.5g.
 
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Throwaway9787

Throwaway9787

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Jun 27, 2019
545
Hello, I'll be ordering when I get back from my trip today.
 
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Rheaz

Rheaz

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Sep 12, 2019
33
Sure
Dark web is very simple if you google it

-download the tor browser(mod of firefox)
-search for tor on android or iphone app store. If on mobile
-go to darknetlive.com
-find empire market url
-copy paste into url
-register on empire


-download coinbase on your phone
-pay with a debit or credit card for bitcoin
-you now have bitcoin in your wallet

Go to empire account (wallet)
Press generate bitcoin wallet
Should give you a QR code you can scan with the coinbase app
Deposit bitcoin
Find vendor(ill pm several)
Purchase product shipped safely to your house.

Very good if you have a disability.

Pm if you want several reputable vendor names for H
Could you pm me. I can't seem to get the empire market link to work. I'm trying it on my phone. Should I try on a computer instead? Thank you so much for the advice. I'm just not familiar with the dark web.
 
Throwaway9787

Throwaway9787

Mage
Jun 27, 2019
545
Could you pm me. I can't seem to get the empire market link to work. I'm trying it on my phone. Should I try on a computer instead? Thank you so much for the advice. I'm just not familiar with the dark web.
Use a computer. It's easier. I can't pm you since you don't have enough posts
 
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Rheaz

Rheaz

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Sep 12, 2019
33
Use a computer. It's easier. I can't pm you since you don't have enough posts
I will try and get enough posts. I will try with my computer. Thank you for your advice.
I read in another thread that you could possibly pass out before injecting the full amount. I can't risk another failed attempt. Am I just worrying too much?
OK, people, let's do it.

First of all, study the links below. Carefully. Pay attention. This is the bus you're catching, make sure you pay respect to its history and the way it works. Injecting a lethal dose of heroin is one of the most popular methods of leaving this planet among drug users all over the world. Most of your questions are answered there:

1. https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Heroin
2. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Heroin
3. https://wiki.tripsit.me/wiki/Heroin

H has a shelf life of 3 years according to pubchem.

The golden standard for a lethal dose is 500 mg of pure heroin. But you're very unlikely to get pure stuff. It's probably gonna be 50% cut, or even worse. I'd recommend getting at least 1.5g for your injection, this way you can be sure you're getting the lethal dose even if it's just 30% dope. Most heroin these days doesn't need citric acid to be added before you dissolve it in water. If its a white or greyish powder, you don't need citric acid. Just add water and heat it up with a lighter or a candle. You can use a tablespoon or any other thing that works as a cooker. Look it up. Draw the stuff into the syringe through a small piece of a cigarette filter. Below is the best link on IV injections:


However, contrary to what it says there, do not insert the needle at a 45 degree angle, unless you're experienced you're not gonna pull it off. The angle should be 10-15 degrees or less. Do it slowly. When the needle is inside the vein, you'll probably feel it, I don't know how to explain this, but it makes a certain, er, sound or sensation, you can just feel the needle going through the wall of the vein. Draw a little blood into the syringe like the tutorial instructs you. Then do the injection. It's best if you do it in 4 to 5 seconds: not too fast, nor too slowly. That's it.

If you've never done IV injections, definitely practise first with saline. Practise as much as you can until you know what you're doing.

In the US and Canada, heroin is often laced with fentanyl. This is perfect for your purposes, because F is much more potent and will definitely help you ctb.

Getting H is easy af almost everywhere on the planet. If you're not OK with buying it on the DN, the easiest way is to approach a junkie on the street and ask for their help. Obviously, they're not gonna do it for free. But what do you care, right? xD If you use a drug user to get the stuff, ask them what kind it is, whether you need to add citric acid, etc. They will know.

IV is not the only way. You can do intramuscular or rectal. Intramuscular may hurt; pure H doesnt, but the stuff its usually cut with does. You can't smoke it or snort it to kill yourself, don't even try: as soon as you start you're gonna a) puke (not necessarily, but very often this is the case) b) feel amazing and not want to die. You're very likely to become an addict instead of ctb.

Now, you've got your heroin. How do you make sure it IS heroin and that it's potent enough to help you go? Any junkie I know would just do a small line (30 to 50 mg). If that amount gets you high af, it's potent, feel free to proceed if you still can. You can smoke it as well, usually off tinfoil, look it up if you need to. There are also special testing kits to gauge the potency - again, look it up if you need. I have to stress this: you won't be able to proceed after you've tried a little bit. I think using a testing kit or a drug user to gauge the potency is best here.

Make sure no one's around. Naloxone will get you back to life easily, ODing takes time.

It is absolutely painless. You're gonna black out immediately. You won't know what's hit you.

There are a lot of useful videos on YouTube if you type in 'cooking up heroin'.

PLEASE don't do it unless you're terminally ill, or things in your life are fucked up beyond hope.


Yes, that's the only way to make sure the needle is where it should be. It is very important.

Would you be prepared to help people with DN? You gave some very useful info in one of the threads yesterday, I think people would appreciate it if you put it here. I have zero experience with DN in Europe or North America.
Thank you for such great advice.
 
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spanishguy22

Enlightened
Apr 9, 2019
1,003
just bought from a well known vendor.

Hello I though that F was better than H to ctb? The things is its really impure in the dark Web is that why youre going H?
Personally I cant take the risk of buying a class A drug like H.
 
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Throwaway9787

Mage
Jun 27, 2019
545
Hello I though that F was better than H to ctb? The things is its really impure in the dark Web is that why youre going H?
Personally I cant take the risk of buying a class A drug like H.
Don't know which I'm going with
 
Rheaz

Rheaz

Member
Sep 12, 2019
33
I'm really looking into this method. It's either this or night night method. My SI is getting me every time with partial suspension.
 
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SourIntent

Member
Sep 15, 2019
18
H sounds like a good path, except i hate needles and always had difficulty drawing blood so any possibility of oral method? its small and easier to get then N, any chance of survival even at the 1.5G ? what about the veins on your wrist is that doable?
Same here. I was thinking fentanly patch or rectally. I don't think I could shoot up.
anyone else considering this method?
Yes. It is actually why I joined. I'm trying to get enough posts to PM you for reputable sources.
 
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Hearth_56

Hearth_56

Member
Oct 6, 2018
15
How much water will you need in order to dissolve 3.5 grams of #4 heroin powder?
 
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