CouldaHvBeenARock

CouldaHvBeenARock

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1.0 FOUR MAIN TYPES OF HANGING
Neck Doesn't break
  • Short drop hanging where the prisoner drops just a few inches, and their suspended body weight and physical struggling causes the noose to tighten, normally resulting in death by strangulation or carotid or Vagal reflex. Pole hanging is a variation on this method.
  • Suspension hanging where the executee is lifted into the air using a crane or other mechanism. Death is caused in the same way as with short drop hanging.
Neck Breaks
  • Standard drop hanging where the prisoner drops a predetermined amount, typically 4-6 feet, which may or may not break their neck. This was the normal method adopted in America in the later 19th and early 20th centuries.
  • Finally, measured or "long drop" hanging which became universal in Britain from 1874, where the distance the person falls when the trapdoors open is calculated according to their weight, height and physique and is designed to break the neck. This method was adopted in British Colonies and by some other countries who wished to make executions more humane.
Personally, Short Drop and Suspension are the same but techniques vary, because in both the most important agent with this kind of death is compression of the larger vessels. I will refer to the following as Full Suspension.

1.0.1 Images
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1.0.2 Further Reading
http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/hanging2.html

2.0 INSTRUCTIONS FULL SUSPENSION

2.1 HOW DEATH OCCURS

Hanging with little or no drop typically causes death by a combination of the tightening noose occluding the carotid arteries and jugular veins causing cerebral hypoxia (ischemia), i.e. a severely reduced flow of oxygenated blood to and from the brain and asphyxia due to the weight of the person's body forcing the base of the tongue upwards against the back of the mouth, blocking the airway and thus preventing breathing.


2.1.2 Further Reading

http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/hanging2.html

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-mechanics-of-hanging-by-james-barr-m-d.23369/


2.2 FIND ANCHOR POINT

Height of the anchor point
  • Enough that you don't touch the ground
  • But you can try being 30 cm/11 inches of the ground
Tree Options

2.2.1. Further Reading

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2.3 LIGATURE TYPE

Depends on what you got on hand
But this is a general idea
N/B Focus on finding what's right for you aka do more research
  • Doesn't stretch
  • Support about 3 times your weight - due to thrashing
  • Triple your height
  • Cut the excess or Wrap it around the anchor….
  • Ideally want 10mm for better comfort or at least 8mm there's suggestion of 6-10mm in capital hangings
  • Grease the noose and your neck with petroleum jelly (preferably) or soap, to help reduce any friction and make both as tight as possible.
  • Test your rope please!

2.3.1 Further Reading

Please Note - Ligature requirements differ for full and partial hence choose the strongest options
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/i-have-completed-a-booklet-of-instructions-for-partial-hanging-and-would-like-to-share-it-with-this-community.100336/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/new-full-suspension-megathread.105295/

2.3.2 Questions

How to grease and pad at the same time?!

2.4 LIGATURE PLACEMENT

The ligature always slips between the voice box/larynx (cartilage that covers the front of your larynx is your Adams Apple) and chin which pushes the tongue upwards.
The most important agent win this kind of death its compression of the larger vessels - carotid and jugular

Actionable
  • The ligature should be placed 2 finger widths above your Adam's Apple - ideally above the hyoid bone to prevent putting pressure on the trachea
  • Practise finding your sweet spot - you should feel like you are about to pass out

Consider the following:

ACTIONRECOURSE
Prevent any clawing at the neck and further increase the futility of escapeGloves
Reduce the chances of biting your tongueMouth-guard/ Piece of Cloth
Remain Presentable x reduce the fear induced by the changes with the eye brightnessHood/ Mask + Blindfold
Neck Padding - Help with the rope cutting into your neckSocks/Handkerchief etc

2.4.1 IMAGES
Found at the end of the post

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2.4.2 Further Reading

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-mechanics-of-hanging-by-james-barr-m-d.23369/

Hanged by the neck until dead. The process of judicial hanging
http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/hanging2.html
*The Postmortem report.*
DEEP IMPRESSIONS AROUND NECK from noose with a suspension point about 1 inch in front of the angle of the L. lower jaw.

2.5 KNOTS

Test your knots please

Neck
Placed behind your neck
Noose Knot
https://www.animatedknots.com/noose-knot

Anchor point
Water Bowline
https://www.animatedknots.com/water-bowline-knot
If your rope is too long you can tie the knots twice


2.5.1 Further Reading

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/knots-megathread-a-guide.138619

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/full-suspension-hanging-specifics.14509/

http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/hanging2.html

2.6 LAST STEP

SI
Do not be sober…. Or practise?!

Go into the noose hard and fast to constrict the carotids as quick as possible. This cuts off the carotids quickly, speeding up unconsciousness and leaving a much more placid pale appearance post-mortem.
If not the process/pain is prolonged

Try stepping of the chair rather than kicking sit away just in case

Viable human - 6 minutes
Dead beyond resuscitation - 20 to 30 mins

2.6.1 Further Reading

N/A


2.7 AFTER

Sequence of agonal responses was observed:

RESPONSESTIME IN SECONDS
Rapid loss of consciousness10 ± 3
Mild generalised convulsion14 ± 3 seconds
Decerebrate rigidity19 ± 5 seconds
Beginning of deep rhythmic abdominal respiratory movements19 ± 5 seconds
Decorticate rigidity38 ± 15 seconds
Loss of muscle tone1 minute 17 seconds ± 25 seconds,
End of deep abdominal respiratory movements1 minute 51 seconds ± 30 seconds,
Last muscle movement4 minutes 12 seconds ± 2 minutes 29 seconds.

2.7.1 Manifestations of brain injury

271 Manifestations Of Brain Injury
2.7.2 Further Reading
Agonal Sequences in Eight Filmed Hangings: Analysis of Respiratory and Movement Responses to Asphyxia by Hanging*
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-hang-yourself.1183/page-121#post-1702459


2.7.3 Question

Can use of Valium- used in treatment of seizures- help reduce convulsions ??


2.8 HANGING VIDEOS

Prepare yourself here
For visual learners I would recommend watching some videos to understand the information

2.8.1 Further Reading
Visit gore sites like goredb.com etc

2.9 DELAYED MESSAGES
Instead of a goodbye thread, you can send a delayed message on SaSu

2.9.1 Further Reading

3.0 TLDR
Capital Punishment
The Mechanics of Hanging
Tree Anchor
Ligature requirements - Mixed with partial options
Knots
Mixed With Partial
Real Quick Read
FULL SUSPENSION THREADS
Hanging Not For You

As a chronically ill/ disabled person it took alot to get this information together, I wanted to share my research so that maybe it can be easier for the next person. Is it perfect, edited well, best compilation, hell no! Its just an outline at best.

Please be nice.

For the images, if they dont work, here is the pdf version:
 

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This is good! Cheers!
 
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FutureHanger

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does H3 H2 etc mean hanging method number out of the 4 at the top? Is neck breaking what you refer to as full suspension?
 
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does H3 H2 etc mean hanging method number out of the 4 at the top? Is neck breaking what you refer to as full suspension?
Fine I'll finish editing.... not able to do that anymore....so sorry about that
[h3][/h3] and their variations are just headers

No!!!!!
Death By Strangulation doesn't break your neck and that is what I refer to as Full Suspension

But from the source I use CapitalPunishmentUK that can be carried out in two ways: Short Drop or Suspension
It can get confusing cause they are many sources....
For example on Sasu I have seen three distinctions:
Partial Hanging - your body remains in contact with the ground
Full Suspension - your step off a platform and you hang like a bulb
Short Drop - like a gallows situations
Given most people do not have access to government style hanging equipment
Please do not focus on the name rather the method by which you are dying

I hope this helps
 
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You need to make one more edit 😁
Damn! I'm not built for proofreading
But at least the thread has you...when they need clarification
 
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okay so how do I practice full suspension? and is there something small I could buy and use to get up instead of a chair, as chairs are heavy and I'll do it in a forest? how do I test if anchor point and ligature can bear my weight?
 
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rozeske

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okay so how do I practice full suspension? and is there something small I could buy and use to get up instead of a chair, as chairs are heavy and I'll do it in a forest?
You don't practice full suspension, once you step off the chair or whatever you are using you are gone.
 
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Snuggle hitch or double constrictor night be used at rigging point.

Hangman's or slipknot, greased with some soap / jelly. Knot at the left side (behind the ear) will ease the pressure on the trachea. Padding is advisable at the front.
What do you think of this? I've heard about having the knot at the left side, but don't really know about it. Seems like if you did it this way you would lower your chances of suffocation.
 
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2.4 LIGATURE PLACEMENT

The ligature always slips between the voice box/larynx (cartilage that covers the front of your larynx is your Adams Apple) and chin which pushes the tongue upwards.
The most important agent win this kind of death its compression of the larger vessels - carotid and jugular
So if full suspension compresses both jugular and carotid, that means when you are hanging you will feel exploding head feeling and sleepiness right?
 
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Wonderful information for a fellow sufferer. Thank you so much for your time in putting this together.
 
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Any opinion about the socks presented there but for full?

I was pretty close of pushing the bucket, but as I was trying to slowly go down I started to feel the pain in front / trachea I think first (even struggle to speak a bit for a day), and it made me chicken out.

Thinking that padding on the side for the arteries might help with this?
 
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Any opinion about the socks presented there but for full?

I was pretty close of pushing the bucket, but as I was trying to slowly go down I started to feel the pain in front / trachea I think first (even struggle to speak a bit for a day), and it made me chicken out.

Thinking that padding on the side for the arteries might help with this?
Yeah
I think padding on the side might help

Slowly going down is not recommended
How tight is your rope as you go down?
And where is it positioned
 
TheSDMan

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Yeah
I think padding on the side might help

Slowly going down is not recommended
How tight is your rope as you go down?
And where is it positioned
So I tried to do a Slipknot, but I also realized it was not going to get much tighter as I was going down, the knot was behind my neck (I redid a bit the knot after to make sure it closes more).

Basically I have both sides of the rope attached to the pull bar, even though normally it should be only one side, that's why it was not closing more. I "improved" by letting more length on one side, as I still prefer both to be attached just in case.

So as I was going down, it was just tight enough that if I swallowed, the rope would pass below my adam apple and had to push it back up.

For the padding it seems it could be a good idea, or maybe a bad one if it actually stops the rope from compressing fully the arteries :D a bit risky for full
 
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stpabl0

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How long does it take to lose consciousness if the carotids are not blocked properly?
I've seen a few hanging videos, but it didn't seem like everyone got peace within 20 seconds...
 
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Justnotme

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Why is it recommended to descend on a rope quickly and abruptly, and not smoothly?
After all, the arteries will still be compressed, so why is speed important?
 
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Why is it recommended to descend on a rope quickly and abruptly, and not smoothly?
After all, the arteries will still be compressed, so why is speed important?
Largely to push past SI I guess, and to minimize the time?
 
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Why is it recommended to descend on a rope quickly and abruptly, and not smoothly?
After all, the arteries will still be compressed, so why is speed important?
It's about compression. The quicker you descend, the heavier you are and the rope compresses more and faster around your neck. With better compression there is less blood flowing and less time passes before you go out.
 
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I've realized that hyperventilating can make me hold my breath longer. I'm thinking of hyperventilating before full hanging so I don't feel suffocated before I pass out, would it help?
 
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I don't have a laptop. I am using mobile.
Then it depends on the mobile browser and/or the phone you are using. You can enter the browser menu and see if you can save and/or bookmark this page from there or you can make screenshots from the phone power menu. You can also copy/paste the whole text field into a notes taking app.
 
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Then it depends on the mobile browser and/or the phone you are using. You can enter the browser menu and see if you can save and/or bookmark this page from there or you can make screenshots from the phone power menu. You can also copy/paste the whole text field into a notes taking app.
Thanks!
 
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How painful is short drop hanging ?
Could be very painful from what some said on the forum... if not done right... you will feel the pain as you won't go unconscious till you theoretically straight line.
 
Yoñlü×

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Is it a problem if the rope is the same height as mine or a little shorter? Why is the rope said to be three times its height?
Was saying that in the part 2.3
 
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Is it a problem if the rope is the same height as mine or a little shorter? Why is the rope said to be three times its height?
Was saying that in the part 2.3
I believe it's due to having a high anchor point, being able to check the security of the rope's anchoring from the ground and having enough left over for knotwork if you're like me and haven't a sailor's hand for tying them.
 
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Is it a problem if the rope is the same height as mine or a little shorter? Why is the rope said to be three times its height?
Was saying that in the part 2.3
Length of rope doesn't matter.
 
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