GasMonkey
Nitrogen Master Race
- May 15, 2022
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You don't need to do the pre-deep breaths thing with the EEBD hood, it has CO₂ exhalation valves in the mask.
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That's why they tell you to hyperventilate first in that book, gets rid of most of the CO2, then no need for a tube. The other way sounds too complex, as you will have little if any warning of effects of N2.One of the drawbacks of the PPeH exit bag procedure is that after pulling the bag down over your head, your first few exhales will contain quite a bit of O2 and CO2. What if you exhaled those first few breaths into a another tube so it doesn't go into the bag. The tube would only be a foot long, but maybe a larger size. So you would be inhaling through your nose only, and exhaling through your mouth into the tube. When you start feeling the effects of the N2, you simply pull the short tube out.
On this study the subjects blacked out in ~10 sec/3 breaths, so I don't think what you are proposing is needed.So you would be inhaling through your nose only, and exhaling through your mouth into the tube. When you start feeling the effects of the N2, you simply pull the short tube out.
I dare judge you. Using an innocent little creature is just despicable. You don't want to become disabled, but another life has to suffer? Yuck.Have you tried experimenting with small animals? For example, buy some rabbits and experiment on them. Just put on a gas mask or an oxygen mask so you don't accidentally inhale it. If the experiment with rabbits is successful, then it will give you confidence. It probably sounds evil, but don't you dare judge me! I am ready to make any sacrifice to success. I do not want to accidentally become disabled, I want to be sure that I will do
Very good descriptors I could just picture it. Sorry I laughedYES. I used to care for someone on oxygen. One day I was carrying several tanks into a hotel room and one dropped onto the bed. It dropped onto the bed in such a way that it dislodged the valve. That thing became airborne and started spinning in a circle, parallel to the bed. I was trying to grab it and I kept fumbling it. Meanwhile I had oxygen shooting out at my face and eyes, burning me (just from the cold and the air, not anything chemical). It sucked. Took me a good 5 minutes to capture it and I'm just so thankful that it happened on an empty bed with nothing else around. I basically had to finally kind of throw my body on top of it to get it to stop being airborne. Apparently to the other person, it was hilarious because it blasted into my face multiple times as it spun and made me look like those people that aim hair dryers into their mouth and stuff and their mouth gapes open and cheeks puff out. That's apparently what it looked like. It was actually scary in the middle of it. And that was just a metal oxygen tank.
You won't become disabled and there are videos of scientists exposing animals to inert gases. You can just YouTube them. No need to harm anything. There's all the research you need on YouTube. You have a lot more research to do via computer and no reason for you to do your own experimentation. When animals are exposed to N they do not notice and when the N is removed from the room they wake back up and start eating like nothing happened. Now please don't go gassing hamstersHave you tried experimenting with small animals? For example, buy some rabbits and experiment on them. Just put on a gas mask or an oxygen mask so you don't accidentally inhale it. If the experiment with rabbits is successful, then it will give you confidence. It probably sounds evil, but don't you dare judge me! I am ready to make any sacrifice to success. I do not want to accidentally become disabled, I want to be sure that I will do
Well, I better keep quiet because I already got a warning. I'm just advising all of you here not to be so haughty as to judge me because you've all probably eaten meat. I'll tell you a secret - these animals were killed because of you - because demand creates supply)) Yes, I'm selfish and I only care about my life and that's normal, at least I'm not as hypocritical as you who condemned me here for my message.I dare judge you. Using an innocent little creature is just despicable. You don't want to become disabled, but another life has to suffer? Yuck.
It's a little early. I don't think anybody is going to jump to share sources because there are hardly any. If you use DuckDuckGo and extensively search debreather you might happen upon A source and you will definitely find directions for making one.I've seen a "Canadian source" for a pre-built hood mentioned several times, but I seem to have missed any actual information on them. I know we aren't supposed to post sources but could somebody point me in the right general direction to find it? I just want to make sure I consider all available options. Thanks.
Just saying exit has YouTube videos that show exactly what the result is of what you're talking about so you don't really need to. Google nitrogen, pig watch the videosWell, I better keep quiet because I already got a warning. I'm just advising all of you here not to be so haughty as to judge me because you've all probably eaten meat. I'll tell you a secret - these animals were killed because of you - because demand creates supply)) Yes, I'm selfish and I only care about my life and that's normal, at least I'm not as hypocritical as you who condemned me here for my message.
I imagine coma as deep anesthesia, I'm not afraid if it happens to me. They will only find me about 1.5 or 2 months after death, because - if I am in a coma, then I will die anyway. People who experience such fear are afraid of milder brain damage - for example, I will be conscious, but my cognitive abilities will deteriorate significantly, or some areas of the brain responsible for example, for movement, will be damaged in me. I am afraid that my already unpleasant life will become even more painful. Of course, it's not pleasant to think that you can live in a coma and shit in bed))Hello MG_49, Thank you for your reply and answer!
I can well understand this point! I hope it doesn't offend anyone or is considered super insensitive when I add for consideration whether such vegetative state may be a rather "abstract" fear ... able to hold back (and reconsider ones plan to ctb, which is not in general a bad thing)? Reads terrible but I don't know how to express that in a different way. Perhaps such vegetative state would be more bad for the ones left behind? Because the person being in such state may not at all realise anything about that state as brain doesn't allow anymore to reflect (about) it? I don't know whether this is completely true; at least a total absense of brain function would support that neither the state itself can be reflected about nor any feelings be felt (e.g. of pain or the like), which (too) would be meassured and displayed by brain function measuring technique/devises I think. Very difficult to overcome such doubts and fears but if true indeed, then such thoughts and fears are very prone to be increased even more by ones own mind/thoughts.
The vEGeTaTIvE sTAtE thing is just mental gymnastics by fearful scaremongers. For that to happen somebody has to remove the mask/bag from you at the PRECISE POINT in time when enough damage has happened to leave you a VeGGiE but not enough damage to stop the breathing/heart function so you can then breath air and survive.I'm not afraid if it happens to me
Less eficient CO₂ purging.Can someone explain why the PPeH advises to not lay down?
Where is the mask? I don't see it.Hey guys, just wondering if I have all items neccessary for SCBA?
It's easy for you to laugh, but I already had the unpleasant experience of a failed attempt - I took 600 digoxin tablets and did not die. I thought it was guaranteed to kill me, but it just made my heart problems a little worse. So that's the reason why I'm so afraid of another failure. Therefore, I read everything I can find on this topic, and I am also interested in messages from 4 years ago, although I did not pay attention that it was written so long ago))The vEGeTaTIvE sTAtE thing is just mental gymnastics by fearful scaremongers. For that to happen somebody has to remove the mask/bag from you at the PRECISE POINT in time when enough damage has happened to leave you a VeGGiE but not enough damage to stop the breathing/heart function so you can then breath air and survive.
Some folks here have too much imagination.
BTW what are you doing replying to messages from 4 years ago?
Less eficient CO₂ purging.
There are a lot of medical reports of people doing it that way tho.
After about 10 months, my Nitrogen Tank PSI is down to1800, but its a huge 3000 liter tank so it should be still lethal enough for me to successfully CTB at 15 liters per minute??You don't need to do the pre-deep breaths thing with the EEBD hood, it has CO₂ exhalation valves in the mask.
If the original pressure was 200 bar (2900 psi), you still have 1862 Liters left, 124 minutes at 15 LPM, enough to CTB 12 times.After about 10 months, my Nitrogen Tank PSI is down to1800, but its a huge 3000 liter tank so it should be still lethal enough for me to successfully CTB at 15 liters per minute??
ok thanks muchIf the original pressure was 200 bar (2900 psi), you still have 1862 Liters left, 124 minutes at 15 LPM, enough to CTB 12 times.
The cylinder is big enough.Would someone who understands this more than I do please have a look at these and be sure the cylinder is ok for our purposes, and that the regulator is suitable?
I would just pre-fill the hood over my head so the elastic is not overstreched for an extended time.Lift the hood over your face so that the elastic rim is now around your temples and just above your eyebrows, below your ears and around the back of your neck, like a shower cap
You don't need to hyperventilate and exhale if the hood has exhalation valves, just take a deep breath of air, hold your breath, insert the head into the hood, exhale and take a deep breath of N₂.When the hood is inflated and you're ready, hyperventilate, exhale as completely as possible and hold your lungs empty.
Create your own account.I saw something on amazon but given i share an account i dont want to buy it there.
The tank must be compatible with inert gas (CGA-580).I have a tank but I would stick out like a sore thumb trying to go into a welders shop
Check the setup of one of our chinese members.I'm in China
Any of the first three would be enough (4, 8 or 10 L). 40L is too much (too big an extremely heavy).There are 4l, 8l, 10l and 40l