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GoingSoonish

GoingSoonish

It is what it is
Aug 19, 2018
126
These people know that they are very close to a natural death. I have never met one that is ridden with anxiety about the unknown, fear of oblivion, or feeling the effects of the survival instinct. I don't quite understand it.
 
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Angst Filled Fuck Up

Angst Filled Fuck Up

Visionary
Sep 9, 2018
2,662
I'm only mid thirties and I'm totally over it so I'd think they would be pretty much at peace once they are pushing 80 or whatever. I wish I would contract something short term and fatal though. Lots of sympathy, morphine, family around me etc. Being dead doesn't scare me, but everything up to that point does. However much less so if I pass away from natural causes.
 
Trashcan

Trashcan

Trash
Aug 31, 2018
1,234
By old age, they've probably come to acceptance about death. And their bodies are failing. With terminal illnesses, I've heard there often becomes a point when these people just don't want to fight anymore. The illness is too awful. The treatments are too awful. And it keeps getting worse.
 
Lra888

Lra888

Enlightened
Sep 30, 2018
1,140
By old age, they've probably come to acceptance about death. And their bodies are failing. With terminal illnesses, I've heard there often becomes a point when these people just don't want to fight anymore. The illness is too awful. The treatments are too awful. And it keeps getting worse.
Similar to us in that we've had enough and we're ready to leave. At some point the survival instinct is overcome.
 
lostinthedream

lostinthedream

Warlock
Sep 2, 2018
754
By old age, they've probably come to acceptance about death. And their bodies are failing. With terminal illnesses, I've heard there often becomes a point when these people just don't want to fight anymore. The illness is too awful. The treatments are too awful. And it keeps getting worse.

Yes this. Death is a natural progression.. like falling asleep or going under general anesthesia.. eventually you simply have to let go.. and surrender to it..
 
Chinaski

Chinaski

Arthur Scargill appreciator
Sep 1, 2018
2,977
For them, death is a passive act. I read a lot of Tony Benn's diaries, as he came close to death he remained busy, politically active and loved by so many, but he grieved a great deal for his late wife and began to speak of himself very critically, occasionally even describing himself as depressed. I think we all feel essentially the same about death, we just have an instinctive aversion to playing an active part in it.
 
Justanotherconsumer

Justanotherconsumer

Paragon
Jul 9, 2018
974
Death could become quite attractive as you age, dragging around a dying carcass isn't pleasant in itself and limiting, never mind people with painful and terminal illness, the pain and suffering negates the fear of death. If you have ever been severely I'll after drinking sometimes you wish for death, which is nothing compared to the misery of someone in severe physical pain every moment. People aren't even being given sufficient opiods these days to alleviate the pain of terminal illness or any painful condition under the guise of preventing addiction. In reality the govt. And insurance companies simply are unwilling to pay for these end of life meds to alleviate suffering. Even the euthanasia doctors want 10's of thousands of dollars before they will help you.
 
Sayo

Sayo

Not 2B
Aug 22, 2018
520
Some seem plenty afraid of it, especially after the first injuries. But they are alive and have to distract themselves. They are not planning to stop until the end, unlike us. They're also not as likely to speak out about it.

At that age, you have had chances to make peace with it, but you might need to renew it as it looms closer or your loved ones pass.
 
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sadak_the_wanderer

sadak_the_wanderer

An appropriate painting
Mar 19, 2018
243
I would include exhaustion, decades of time to come to process the situation, and being soaked in a culture where you have an "acceptable" time to die.
 
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Schopenhauer

Enlightened
Oct 3, 2018
1,133
Many are terrified, but they don't like to say so (maybe to appear brave, or to soothe their familiars). You can see it by their actions (what economists call "revealed preferences"): they spend vast sums of money just to postpone death a few months, or even weeks, with pretty low quality of life.
 
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406blue

Specialist
Sep 7, 2018
379
If you go into a 'retirement home' lots of these seemingly chilled out old people are on medication for anxiety and stress.
 
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406blue

Specialist
Sep 7, 2018
379
I'm only mid thirties and I'm totally over it so I'd think they would be pretty much at peace once they are pushing 80 or whatever. I wish I would contract something short term and fatal though. Lots of sympathy, morphine, family around me etc. Being dead doesn't scare me, but everything up to that point does. However much less so if I pass away from natural causes.
A natural end can be anything on the spectrum from a heart attack to years of suffering. Every day i see people struggling to go about their lives despite all sorts of physical problems or handicaps and admire them more and more and despise myself for having quit. I did some voluntary work with elderly people for a while and for anyone trying to life themselves out of depression i'd recommend it.

Being occupied, having a social network and routines, these are reasons some people might cope better than others. My father used to look forward to his chemo sessions. It forced him out of the house, there were nice nurses around and other people he could relate to and not be an outcast because of his illness. When he was unoccupied and alone, it was hell for him much of the time, the thing we don't see.

He spent 30 years drinking and smoking excessively and being fed up with life, probably having suicidal thoughts. When he was diagnosed and given 18 months he just wanted to live and there were times afterwards when i had never seen him happier, also times when he was deep in the pit.

At the end he understood everything about life and death and was at peace with it, something at least
 
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Fcancer

Fcancer

Student
Sep 24, 2018
184
As someone whose had cancer twice, I can assure you behind the mask these people are afraid. But there also comes a time of acceptance of the inevitable also. I personally have no fear of it due to being almost like a robot, but thats just me. I would have much preferred a terminal diagnosis, but unfortunately I got a treatable kind.
 
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Dean

Member
Sep 10, 2018
48
I've volunteered with elderly people a lot of them say they are curious about what happens next, but not afraid. I personally feel the same way. I'm over this life and I want to see what happens next (if anything).
 
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CJM

Experienced
Jul 13, 2018
246
I suppose if you're really old, you're probably thinking "I've had a good run"

and maybe "I'm sick of playing bingo"
 
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