What if we go to hell?

[Insomniac]

if you lost your faith, you probably lost your family too. as long as Islam is concerned at least.

no such thing as a "closeted" atheist. People can feel these things. It doesn't need to be said or even though.

when I left my religion (Islam, at 16), I felt a big wave of freedom and energy flowing through me. Ironically, it felt like a deep spiritual experience. In an instant, I was freed to think and question things I couldn't think and question before. I never told anyone that I had lost the faith. So I though no one knew.

Anyway, with that joy and energy, It felt like I had just won the lottery. I felt so sorry for my family members who were still deep into religion. To the point where I was wondering "how did they manage to survive so well with their blindfold on all this time?"

8 years later, I finally understand that I lost everything when I lost my faith. I lost my connection to the people around me and ever since, I have been trying to build new connection with people who... don't want me. The only thing I had in common with them was freedom from religion.

Life was easier with religion. The rigidity of it's boundaries kept my soul contained and safe from myself. everyone who stayed close to religion had way more success than me. They had a clear path and they understood each other. They have each other and I'm alone with my "freedom".

I still do believe in Hell, except I don't see it as a future thing.

 

[motel rooms]

I'm not a muslim and hold 0 compassion for the religion, but just not reading between the lines and ridiculing the literal meaning of a text while ignoring the actual meaning isn't good.

Ever heard of Christian fundamentalists/literalists? Well, there are even more Islamic literalists in the world. Not everyone is a sophisticated reader/thinker.

 

[Luchs]

Ever heard of Christian fundamentalists/literalists? Well, there are even more Islamic literalists in the world. Not everyone is a sophisticated reader/thinker.

These people are stupid, obviously. Wether for ridicule or even worse, as an actual source of believe, reading theological texts while ignoring all nuance in it is a bad idea.

 

[Diminished]

We are already in hell...

Exactly! Once you understand the true nature of humans and those who have been ruling this planet for 100's of years you realise only such evil could exist in hell

 

[motel rooms]

These people are stupid, obviously. Wether for ridicule or even worse, as an actual source of believe, reading theological texts while ignoring all nuance in it is a bad idea.

Yeah, they're stupid, but there's A LOT of them...
Btw, try explaining to the Christian fundamentalists in the US that they're stupid

 

[TriggerHappy]

SOME INSPIRATION :: HIERONYMOUS BOSCH







researching the scenes & characters is fascinating...!

 

[Snake of Eden]

I hate this religion.

 

[All Things Must Pass]

These obviously are moral lessons with Satan not being a person, but more being a malevolent force. I think it is trying to say that small bad actions like yawning aren't good and even small actions that are taboo are gateways to larger evils. I'm not a muslim and hold 0 compassion for the religion, but just not reading between the lines and ridiculing the literal meaning of a text while ignoring the actual meaning isn't good.

The actual meaning is that Muhammad was an ignorant seventh century barbarian who inserted magical beings in gaps of his knowledge. Remember, this is the man who prescribed camel urine as medicine (Sahih Bukhari 5686) and thought fever came from hell (Sahih Bukhari 3262)

We don't go around saying "Wow, Plato was a moron, we obviously don't live in a cave!"

Muhammad was illiterate.

 

[deathgripsme]

Can't go to hell if you're leaving hell am I right?

 

[Journeytoletgo]

Religion is for the living. Human has to have some faith to continue the species. However, I knew at age 10 the Bible made no logical sense. I questioned all the adults about where did adams sons wives come from if they were the first human beings? It made no sense to me. And as I grew older and more social then non social due to my skin condition, then broken hearted I lost all will and drive for life and to preserve for myself.


So religion is indeed for the living.

 

[og.]

The first time i read the translation of the quran, i was shocked. They treat women like literal objects. They want you to be a religion slave and live in fear of hell for the rest of your life. Religion is 100% a political propaganda in order to get obedient followers. Not to mention Islam literally encourages Jihaad (going to war against the kafirs). Well i am literally a kafir now, and my salafi dad is allowed to kill me according to islam. Whatever.

tbh reading this made me think you were never muslim in the first place from the amount of misconceptions there is

islam doesnt treat women like objects the fuck are you talking about

Literally one google search google the rules of jihad and the first thing that comes up would be that it always be in retaliation which is good that its encouraged because otherwise we would just let every other nation walk over us and even if we do jihad in retaliation we dont just kill kuffar left and right,

Im not encouraging violence
im just clearimg up misconceptions because islam really is a beautiful thing

 

[yellowhue]

Those who have been close enough to death to have what is known as a near death experience have asserted that there is no hell, only love and a chance at redemption and that includes those who die by suicide.

People who have had these experiences have described an indescribable place and sense of coming home and unconditional love that we mortals would not be able to understand.

They have also stated that, while some experiences can start out seeming hellish, that there is no Hell. That we create our own sense of Hell and that we also have the ability to leave our self created Hell and move on to the good place and to where we need to be.

And those who feel that they have intuitive, spiritual psychic medium abilities said the same thing, that those who die by suicide are not punished and that there is no Hell.

And then there are those who say that there is nothing but a dreamless sleep after we die.

I'm not trying to encourage you to die or to do something that you have given very careful consideration, but it sounds like either way we have nothing to worry about.

This is the one thing making me feel completely okay with dying. I hate that I finally find my own intuitive abilities right before everything in my life went to shit, I really wanted to use them to help people. I've been an atheist for as long as I remember. Just this year I started believing in a "source" consciousness when I started to find hope. But surprisingly, even while wanting to die, my belief still remains. I never believed in Hell, I only believed in it while I was suffering and delusional (quite literally believed the meaning of the universe was "24" because we all live in Hell lmao). And now I firmly believe I'll either reincarnate to 'try again', or end up somewhere more peaceful. Thank fucking "god".

 

[Nolife33]

I don't believe but I'm curious what comes after death. Hopefully nothing tho.
Religion is made up by humans.

 

[Healing]

if you lost your faith, you probably lost your family too. as long as Islam is concerned at least.

no such thing as a "closeted" atheist. People can feel these things. It doesn't need to be said or even though.

when I left my religion (Islam, at 16), I felt a big wave of freedom and energy flowing through me. Ironically, it felt like a deep spiritual experience. In an instant, I was freed to think and question things I couldn't think and question before. I never told anyone that I had lost the faith. So I though no one knew.

Anyway, with that joy and energy, It felt like I had just won the lottery. I felt so sorry for my family members who were still deep into religion. To the point where I was wondering "how did they manage to survive so well with their blindfold on all this time?"

8 years later, I finally understand that I lost everything when I lost my faith. I lost my connection to the people around me and ever since, I have been trying to build new connection with people who... don't want me. The only thing I had in common with them was freedom from religion.

Life was easier with religion. The rigidity of it's boundaries kept my soul contained and safe from myself. everyone who stayed close to religion had way more success than me. They had a clear path and they understood each other. They have each other and I'm alone with my "freedom".

I still do believe in Hell, except I don't see it as a future thing.
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Hey!!
this is me! i had the exact same experience as you

i felt the damn relieve and blissful energy
i prefer a harsh truth than a sweet lie

religious people are living in the matrix, sweet, limited, contained
WE life in the real world, no anesthetics no fairy tales

some of us were not fortunate to have a good life due to that but that doesn't mean atheists or similar people can't be successful , there are lot of them actually...

but from my experience and I'm telling you, there is more than just this physical world, i was fortunate enough to experience psychic phenomena and read about experiments conducted by the military on this field

religion is just a bad version of the actually reality that got messed due to translations and interpretation and people take it literally while it's full of metaphors, i suggest to you reading a book called Raja Yoga, it may help you

 

[AnonymousS]

My parents are muslims and as a child they've always indoctrinated me that non-muslims are going to hell no matter how kind they are as a person. Now i am a closeted atheist, about to kill myself which is a huge sin even for a muslim. I know that religion feeds on peoples fears, but i was raised religious and i can't help but to worry about hell. What if i'm wrong and the afterlife actually exists? This has stopped me many times from attempting, which is a problem. How do you guys convince yourselves that this is it, there's no such thing as an afterlife?

If this life has proof of anything, it's that he'll exists alright. Just look around in every country in the world.

 

[Banshee]

It still baffles me than in 2021 people are still god fearing . The mere fact that there's more than one religion, literally disproves all religions. Hell, even carbon dating a dirty rock on the ground disproves religions that believe the earth is only 2021 years old.

If any god is real and can see and hear all, you're probably already going to hell for posting and being a member on this site so I wouldn't be worrying about something that is guaranteed to be fake.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

It still baffles me than in 2021 people are still god fearing . The mere fact that there's more than one religion, literally disproves all religions. Hell, even carbon dating a dirty rock on the ground disproves religions that believe the earth is only 2021 years old.

If any god is real and can see and hear all, you're probably already going to hell for posting and being a member on this site so I wouldn't be worrying about something that is guaranteed to be fake.

Depends on the religion, Ixtab (my avatar) the Mayan goddess of suicide, especially by hanging drags the suicides by the rope to heaven.

 

[toforigivelife]

This is the one thing making me feel completely okay with dying. I hate that I finally find my own intuitive abilities right before everything in my life went to shit, I really wanted to use them to help people. I've been an atheist for as long as I remember. Just this year I started believing in a "source" consciousness when I started to find hope. But surprisingly, even while wanting to die, my belief still remains. I never believed in Hell, I only believed in it while I was suffering and delusional (quite literally believed the meaning of the universe was "24" because we all live in Hell lmao). And now I firmly believe I'll either reincarnate to 'try again', or end up somewhere more peaceful. Thank fucking "god".

I do look at near death experiences, or NDEs, with a very healthy amount of skepticism.

A lot of these accounts do sound like the brain's chemicals emerging and the end result being the products of the "experience-er's" psyche or their subconscious.

However, this is a compelling account of an agnostic, science-minded man's after death communication, a communication that was verified by three separate strangers.

The video is about an hour long but when you have time it's worth listening to.

 

[sfabians]

There is no evidence of hell available to be examined by science.

 

[disabledlife]

Before asking the question whether there is a beyond after death and if we exist afterwards, we should also ask ourselves the question why we were born, why we are in one body and not in another, etc.

Indeed, do we have proof of existence in the past? That is to say before being born.

How was the universe born? Is there any other Universe? How did we get from some randomly created particles (protons and electrons after the big bang according to the official theory) to the creation of consciousness, that is to say of us, our way of thinking, d 'to be rational, to be sad, to laugh, to be depressed, to be happy, to create a society.

Other animals undoubtedly have the same consciousness, such as ants, octopuses, and other social animals capable of creating genuine functional societies. Even elephants know when to migrate to their cemetery to die there, a place where all elephants die.

What about twins who have the same body, although they have two brains and two minds which are sometimes extremely different!

The worst creations nature has allowed are conjoined twins, two different souls in one and the same body, imagine they don't get along, worse if one of the two wants CTB?

 

[blueclover_.]

tbh reading this made me think you were never muslim in the first place from the amount of misconceptions there is

islam doesnt treat women like objects the fuck are you talking about

Literally one google search google the rules of jihad and the first thing that comes up would be that it always be in retaliation which is good that its encouraged because otherwise we would just let every other nation walk over us and even if we do jihad in retaliation we dont just kill kuffar left and right,

Im not encouraging violence
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According to Islam, a wife can not say no to her husband even if she's being forced to have sex. Muhammad said that women are not as intelligent as men. Muhammad said a nation led by a woman will never succeed. And a lot of other bs. Read surah An-Nisa.

I was a Muslim apologist, my dad is a literal salafi and I've read the quran countless times. I was one of the most religious kids in my muslim-dominated country so stop the taqqiyah.

Oooh yeah jihad is so beautiful, because killing Christians and non-believers is fine.

 

[Mukey]

There has to be something after this life but it isn't related to religion or science. It is something beyond comprehension.

 

[og.]

Oooh yeah jihad is so beautiful, because killing Christians and non-believers is fine.

I literally just explained to you how jihad isnt about killing Christians and non-believers

 

[Lolkillme]

My parents are muslims and as a child they've always indoctrinated me that non-muslims are going to hell no matter how kind they are as a person. Now i am a closeted atheist, about to kill myself which is a huge sin even for a muslim. I know that religion feeds on peoples fears, but i was raised religious and i can't help but to worry about hell. What if i'm wrong and the afterlife actually exists? This has stopped me many times from attempting, which is a problem. How do you guys convince yourselves that this is it, there's no such thing as an afterlife?

What if THIS is hell

 

[Beeper]

What if THIS is hell

I was just thinking the same thing. :-)

 

[Journeytoletgo]

My theory is this world is truly a hellish realm. So many species of insects, and animals that feed on each other. It's truly a hellish existence how can this world be beautiful ?

 

[Healing]

My theory is this world is truly a hellish realm. So many species of insects, and animals that feed on each other. It's truly a hellish existence how can this world be beautiful ?

You'll be surprised if i told you that Gnosticism say the same thing, the physical world is created by an evil creator that is trying to imitate the source or first creator in creation, there exist heavenly worlds full of happiness and pleasure unlike this world

 

[Journeytoletgo]

You'll be surprised if i told you that Gnosticism say the same thing, the physical world is created by an evil creator that is trying to imitate the source or first creator in creation, there exist heavenly worlds full of happiness and pleasure unlike this world

I hope you're right. This one is disgusting and predatory. I think there are indeed other worlds. If this physical reality exist then so does others it's a huge possibility. However I just don't want to come back to this one. No thanks

 

[Aeathelina]

I was raised Catholic so the idea of Hell and afterlife is still very present no matter how much I actively participate in being an Atheist. Like the idea of burning in the eternal flames of Hell scares me but the idea of continuing to live on Earth being a cursed being is far worse than the pain that may come

 

[Darkover]

I feel sorry for religious people because they live their whole life believing in something that is simply not true.
life can be like heaven or hell one things true everything that has a beginning has an end and nothing here ever last the cycle of death and rebirth.