Personally, I believe in hell. And I believe that's where I'm going. I have no doubts about it. So it doesn't really make sense that I want to CTB so much because I'm not going to a place where I'll be at ease - I'll be in torture for the sins I have recently committed in this life. Sigh. One reason I want to CTB is in order to stop inflicting pain and damage on my loved ones. Yes, yes, you would think I would be able to consciously do this myself, I mean I'm the one doing it. But I feel powerless to do so. That is not an excuse, I am just saying what it feels like. I am totally responsible for my actions and my omissions which are causing great harm.
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silenteternity4
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- Feb 28, 2026
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If you believe in Christianity, Galatians 3:11 says that the righteous will live by faith so my opinion is that you won't go to hell which is eternal separation from God
Worndown
Angelic
- Mar 21, 2019
- 4,248
isthisit?
The name's Cedrik
- Jun 23, 2023
- 248
There is literally a list of 351 prophecies which he fulfulled.
People who have had Near Death Experiences have reported beautiful things from the afterlife. There's a documentary on Youtube. Do a search for Near Death Experience after suicide attempt.
There is no Hell.
My greatest concern is being an discarnate spirit roaming the Earth, sent into a void of aware-nothingness, and/or being reincarnated into someone worse off than I am right now. But maybe if I'm really kind and loving towards others before I CTB, maybe the chances of that will be reduced.
Canto XIII
Bottom of the barrel
- Jul 4, 2026
- 311
I don't really believe in Hell, but I'm going to advertise canto XIII of Dante's Inferno because it's really beautiful.
pthnrdnojvsc
Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
- Aug 12, 2019
- 4,487
some say we don't know and then some say we'll find out after Death what happens .
you can't find out if there is an afterlife because 1 micro second after the brain dies i , you , every human will cease to exist and never exist again. you won't know you're dead , you won't know that you ever lived, or that the universe existed. in a mere 150 years to you and everyone alive now it's as if you and none of the 8 billion alive now ever existed at all.
none then will know that they ever lived, remembered anything , or even that Earth or a universe existed .
150 years from now every one of the 8 billion will be dead. they won't exist .
it's like before anyone was born . no one knew anything then . for example in the year 1859 when Darwin wrote the theory of evolution where were you i those 8 billion alive now? what did they know? did anyone know there was a universe or Earth ? no because none alive now existed then. same for every second of the previous 13.8 billion years before 1800 . i didn't know i didn't exist because there was no me. and it will be the same after Death .
there is no evidence for anything except that self and consciousness comes solely from the brain . plus a soul etc violates the law of entropy .the brain needs constant energy from food to create a self model consciousness and qualia subjective awareness and that point of view . so where is a soul's energy source . why doesn't a soul or afterlife become disordered like everything else?
if you look into the future 200 years, 1000 years? where will everyone be ? what about a trillion years in the future ? you think you or people alive now will be remembering the hell here the horrible memories ? where will they be? no where . they won't exist in 200 years or a trillion years from now of a trillion to to billionth power years also. plus all this violates the law of Entropy that says everything requires a power source and that all systems break down go to disorder and the universe will also die.
once the Sun burns the Earth in 5 billion years there won't be a single human or other creature alive to know they or the universe existed.
this will continue as the Stars die out one by one . Even black holes will evaporate. the universe will continue expand. many experiments say the expansion of the universe is accelerating .
some observations suggest a big rip beauase of the accelerating expansion which could destroy the Universe even sooner. but either way the universe will die in a big rip or heat Death.
in 150 years or in a trillion years from now it will be to everyone alive now as if they never existed in the first place.
and then there won't even be a trace of the horror of DNA based life a trillion years from now
there is no hell no afterlife, reincarnation, soul ... none of that ever .
1 micro-second after the brain dies it's Non-Existence forever.
A human is just an animal , cells , chemical reactions, a machine, , cells the same cells as other animals.
it is in this evil life that a human or animal can be tortured continuously for years, as of now for 80 years every second the worst torture . and they are trying to extend life so in the near future they might be able to keep a human alive for hundreds of years continuously suffering every second the worst pain . the brain has the capacity for unending constant continuous unbearable pain. but only while alive.
if someone is in excruciating continuous pain then Death is the escape to Non-Existence forever.
Eternal Non-Existence is the only guarantee of never being in unbearable pain.
All Life on Earth Comes From One Single Ancestor. And It's So Much Older Than We Thought.
Scientists have pushed back LUCA’s origin by hundreds of millions of years.www.popularmechanics.com
A human is the same cells as are other animals , all cells are basically the same, all have the same fundamental machinery DNA, ribosomes, generic code, ATP, RNA, etc :
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Ashu
novelist, sanskritist, Canadian living in India
- Nov 13, 2021
- 1,032
I just happened to find this the other day, a little talk on the history of Jewish ideas about the afterlife. It nicely illustrates how purely cultural and arbitrary such ideas are, rapidly evolving under changing circumstances and influences.
124K views · 23 shares | There’s an old Jewish joke that says there’s no Heaven or Hell — just Moses and Rabbi Akiva giving Torah lessons forever. For the righteous, that’s paradise. For the wicked… well, same place. But behind the joke lies a deep
There’s an old Jewish joke that says there’s no Heaven or Hell — just Moses and Rabbi Akiva giving Torah lessons forever. For the righteous, that’s paradise. For the wicked… well, same place. But...www.facebook.com
Christian ideas of heaven and hell are of course closely and interpenetratingly connected with these Jewish ones. They arose virtually the day before yesterday, and have only the most tenuous connection with the Bible.
So don't worry about it. You're not going to hell. Hell is a fairy tale that changes in the telling from night to night.
TheBag
Member
- Jan 11, 2026
- 46
To the OP. Please ask AI the following:
Do theologians often lose their faith after their study?
The answer will make you sleep a lot better at night
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mob
Student
- Jul 19, 2023
- 177
Heaven and hell are only concepts that exist for you if you believe in them.
I grew up in a muslim household so I completely understand the lingering fear as an atheist, but a god you don't believe in doesn't exist for you. So in that case, neither do heaven or hell.
[The reason I'm wording it like this ("for you") is because you can rarely win a debate with believers about theology lol]
glided~hydrangea
Life is highkey 2 stressful
- Jan 2, 2026
- 51
Yeah, tl;dr, you do. Unless in some extreme case where it wasn't you're fault or you'd die anyway, it my perspective. (Ex. How 9/11 victims had to choose between jumping off a building or burning inside.)
x9x99988
New Member
- Jul 11, 2026
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instormdrains
tung tung funny haha
- Oct 29, 2025
- 97
Thread is crazy long so and I didn't read any of the previous replies so sorry if this was already said
More specifically in Catholicism we classify sins in 2 different categories mortal sin and venial sin
Mortal sin is something so heinous that by comiting it you turn your back on God and destroy your relationship even though God still wishes for you to return. This requires 3 categories grave matter, full consent, and full knowledge. Grave matter must mean that the sin is something really bad that offends God like rape murder adultery etc etc. You must fully desire to do it and understand that it is something that greatly offends Christ. If any of these 3 categories are not present then you will not be in mortal sin. That means that if you have faith and love God and are in a state of grace you will go to heaven. You can be delivered from your mortal sin through repentance and confession.
Venial sin is sin that isn't really that crazy like calling someone ugly. Its not good but you are still in fellowship with God
Suicide is tricky because it is a grave matter but there's a caveat. It is extremely difficult to fully consent to kill yourself becuase there is so much anguish and distress surrounding it, especially if you are mentally ill. Its like signing a contract with a gun to your head. Especially if its something done on impulse and not planned.
We also dont know what happens in someone's last moments before death. The catholic church has declared many people throughout history to have guaranteed gone to heaven but there has never been a confirmed person in hell. Even Judas who betrayed God and then went to hang himself, even though the odds point to him being dammed we cant say for certain. As someone takes SN or falls from a great height who knows what they think in their last moments
Faith in God is required to be saved so if you dont have that then you will most likely go to hell
Tldr faith and love for God is needed for salvation. Suicide is intrinsically a grave act that offends God however its hard to fully consent to it so most likely it wont damn you but its still not something you should want to gamble with
DarkFriend.
Neverending Suffering
- May 1, 2022
- 103
The very notion of hell is a fantastical ploy ordained to keep humans obedient.
When you kill yourself, you free yourself from the chains of this world.
The living know nothing else.
groovygoober
Member
- Apr 1, 2026
- 46
God is a coping mechanism , so I would like to believe that we just go into nothingness . If there is an omnipotent being that exists outside of space and time why would they ever give a shit about the rules we create .
There are infinite possibilities of existence for a metaphysical being like that none of them have to conform to our expectations and we don't have any evidence for a being like that . Personally don't see the point of believing in something like that but I recognize the value of these beliefs as a crutch for people who are suffering and as a tool to move the masses.
There have been so many interpretations of god , hell and heaven and life throughout history just pick and choose the one that you like none of the old scriptures are actually compatible with modern life without reinterpretation .Last edited:
quikkrelease
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- Jul 10, 2026
- 4
I forgot how this works exactly, but pain is directly tied to our consciousness. Pain is really just signals we receive in the brain, because we are conscious in that moment. When you go to into the afterlife, in this case, hell, you're only a soul. No real brain or living conscious that receives signals of pain. If we did, this would technically be our second lives even though the bible states we only live one life. So when we go to hell, we don't even feel pain if that's what you're worried about. Theoretically?? There wouldn't be any torture anyway if you couldn't feel it. I hope this made sense ! And I hope this helped! Stay safe xx
Lost in a Dream
He/him - Metal head
- Feb 22, 2020
- 2,109
Is hell merely separation from God or is it literal torture? You people can't even be consistent about what hell even means. If it's merely separation, that is a great thing because why would I want to spend eternity on my knees, singing praises to a psychopath?
DeadManLiving
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Lost in a Dream
He/him - Metal head
- Feb 22, 2020
- 2,109
It's only 3 pages... Hardly anything.
What a bunch of garbage... God is an evil bastard.
Oh the irony... Don't you realize that the entire concept of the Christian hell is LITERALLY God pointing a gun to your head and saying "Love me or else"? God is nothing but a rapist who holds people hostage in his basement at gunpoint until they give him what he wants. If they don't, he tortures them.Last edited:
silenteternity4
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- Feb 28, 2026
- 34
The bible is confusing when it comes to this. Some people believe it's simply the realm of the dead, so eternal unconsciousness, others believe in torture. I don't know what to say unfortunately but i hope with all my heart that we won't have to suffer anymore after this life.
Lost in a Dream
He/him - Metal head
- Feb 22, 2020
- 2,109
I hope we won't have to suffer anymore either. I'm hoping more than anything for permanent non-existence for myself. No hell, no reincarnation, just nothing.
instormdrains
tung tung funny haha
- Oct 29, 2025
- 97
I disagree. Forget about God for a sec and think about the legal system. If someone kills a bunch of people and gets the death penalty they were never forced to do that. However there are consiquences to their actions they have the choice between killing a bunch of people and not doing it. Regardless of what they choose to do their will be a punishment because it is morally depraved. God is the source of love, virtue, goodness mercy etc. To reject God would mean that they reject all of theses things. Additionally that person would still have the weight of all their previous sins on the soul since they are unrepentant. People have the freedom to express their love or lack of it for God but that doesnt change the moral weight of their actions and the punishments they would incur.
How is he a rapist? Rape is discouraged and is a sin throughout the bible. If you are referring to Marry she consented to being pregnant and their was no sex it was a miraculous pregnancy
post_card
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- Jul 11, 2026
- 39
Personally I don't think god exists. But if he did exist, I believe that he would be compassionate and merciful and he would not create such a thing as hell. The concept of hell was invented by sadistic people to make people obey. Nikolai Berdyaev, a russian philosopher talks about this, you could look his takes up.
Lost in a Dream
He/him - Metal head
- Feb 22, 2020
- 2,109
Wrong, women are sold as sex slaves in the Bible and rape isn't a sin at all. In fact, Jews in ancient times were told it was totally fine to kidnap women and force them to marry them as long as they came from a foreign nation.
If that isn't enough to convince you, here is more evidence you are WRONG: https://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/rape-in-the-bible/
Now, let's see YOU prove that rape is a sin in the Bible. I'm waiting...
If you think this is what God is, then you are clearly mistaken. He's a bloodthirsty monster and the complete opposite of those. Don't make me laugh.
Also, prove to me that Mary consented to being pregnant... Seems like the pregnancy occurred regardless and then she was told about it. THAT is rape. Doesn't matter if the pregnancy was miraculous (of course what evidence is there it actually happened other than your religious book?)
The reason why I called God a rapist initially had nothing to do with Mary, it's about the fact that people are forced into this existence in the first place without their consent and then allegedly demanded to love this psychopathic God of yours, otherwise he sends them to Hell. You can't compare the justice system that exists on Earth to a God who sends people to Hell to suffer FOREVER, merely because they didn't have faith in him.Last edited:
burninghill
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- Dec 2, 2025
- 421
A lot of people say that you'll go to hell because God has given you life, and by taking it you're disregarding his wishes in some way or giving up on the 'challenges of life' he's set for you.
I'm very spiritual, personally I believe in reincarnation. I absolutely do not believe in hell, especially not for people who kill themselves. Nobody should be punished for struggling. You absolutely shouldn't kill yourself, but you don't have to be scared of hell, I promise that it's not where you're going.Unless you die and come back, how do you really know what is waiting on the other side?
Lost in a Dream
He/him - Metal head
- Feb 22, 2020
- 2,109
Who are you to tell someone that? You aren't experiencing their suffering.
To people who say that, I say this life wasn't given to us it was something we were cursed with without being able to give our prior consent to it. Screw God and his wishes.Last edited:- Status
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