Resource SN megathread

[seeking2024]

looks like this thread has all the info needed for the SN ride.

 

[seeking2024]

it looks like the use of SN (with an i) is a bit versatile in it's uses.

pest control, metal treatment and is quite flammable? so it seems it is recommended to keep away from fire hazards.

 

[makingaplan]

I just tried to purchasing some SN online and received an email asking for the usage of this product. What's a conceivable reason I can put?

Making corned beef?
I ordered SN from CP and got an acknowledgment email, but then got another email that it can only ship to a business address and then the order it was canceled. I need a source. Please help.

 

[makingaplan]

Has anyone bought from C.P.?

Tried and they canceled the order

it looks like the use of SN (with an i) is a bit versatile in it's uses.

pest control, metal treatment and is quite flammable? so it seems it is recommended to keep away from fire hazards.

Which one are you using?
Also food industry.

 

[vetreadytodie1972]

Is there any way to verify that the substance we buy is actually sodium nitrite? I got mine recently, but only after a second attempt, where initially they said they mixed the wrong chemicals.

I bought the wrong thing. I thought I had bought SN. Found out I had bought sodium nitrate. How difficult is it to convert to nitrite? Can I do it?

 

[lovedread]

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

Just wondering how necessary meto is. I remember when i attempted a few years ago that i didn't at all feel nauseous

 

[Rhizomorph1]

I'm wondering, what to do when i set up everything, do it with instruction, and vomiting occurs?
Drink more SN?

I'm also on citalopram and pregabaline 150mg morning, and 450mg pregabaline evening. If i do ctb i woluld do at evening. Would pregabaline help or disturb?

Pregabalin will help reduce anxiety & SI. You can take your citalopram & pregabalin per usual and follow the SN protocol as directed.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Pregabalin will help reduce anxiety & SI. You can take your citalopram & pregabalin per usual and follow the SN protocol as directed.

Helpful as ever Rhizo, always good to see you around here

 

[Rhizomorph1]

Just wondering how necessary meto is. I remember when i attempted a few years ago that i didn't at all feel nauseous

Out of the reported cases on the forum who failed, around half (according to my memory) did not use an anti-emetic.

Many have successfully ctb without meto, but there is reason to believe it reduces the success rate at least moderately.

I highly recommend it; the SN protocol is 83% effective according to research. It is a shot in the dark if an anti-emetic is not combined.

Although it appears unlikely that recovering from SN after surviving will involve adverse effects, we still haven't ruled out the possibility of permanent injuries. Something to be mindful of.

Helpful as ever Rhizo, always good to see you around here

Always a pleasure to see you around Goku

 

[lovedread]

Out of the reported cases on the forum who failed, around half (according to my memory) did not use an anti-emetic.

Many have successfully ctb without meto, but there is reason to believe it reduces the success rate at least moderately.

I highly recommend it; the SN protocol is 83% effective according to research. It is a shot in the dark if an anti-emetic is not combined.

Although it appears unlikely that recovering from SN after surviving will involve adverse effects, we still haven't ruled out the possibility of permanent injuries. Something to be mindful of.

Always a pleasure to see you around Goku

Ah okay. Thanks.

 

[Unicorn_mo7]

Are there any sources anymore that I can get in the US or is it a total waste of time at this point?

 

[unnamed2]

Are there any videos of people who filmed themselves while doing this method?

 

[makingaplan]

looks like this thread has all the info needed for the SN ride.

I feel very discouraged.
I got my Domperidone in then checked my other email to see my SN was canceled due to not being a business account.
I don't know how to proceed.

Are there any sources anymore that I can get in the US or is it a total waste of time at this point?

I feel very discouraged.
I got my Domperidone in then checked my other email to see my SN was canceled due to not being a business account.
I don't know how to proceed. :(

 

[LittleBlackCat]

Hi,
I have 5-6 years old SN in its original packaging. How can I test if it is still good to use? I would like to make sure that I successfully CTB/.
thanks

Hey, I'm in the same situation. Did you test it? I haven't opened mine and want to only open when I'm absolutely ready.. so won't be testing just yet. The person I bought it from advised me that as long as it's not open it will be good forever. But I'm having doubts as people say there is an expiry.

 

[user127679866]

I guess noone is really interested in this method anymore
I think I found my source for SN and I'm really happy , it made my day.

But I really hope for someone to just send me a PM for meto source. Or help me to find through dark web? I don't know what to do now. I thought the antiemetic would be the easiest to find , but in my country there is a shortage of meto and is impossible to find .
Since meto is the best and preferable drug, I was thinking if I can buy it from abroad but I can't find any in eBay. If you have a source please you can tell me.
In case I don't find meto, what is the best alternative drug? Will it be as good as meto?

I have a source for meto. I need a source for sn. Can I message you?

 

[Sk3le]

I Just ordered from Amazon the acquarium strip to test my sn. After that, if everything turns ok in ready to go

 

[Wistful]

Does anyone know if this SN means that it's pure? With the reagent stuff? Thank you.

 

[Lil Potato]

I have been trying to find SN in Canada but can't find anything other than curing saltswhich are hightly diluted, can't find it pure. There is one site that sells it but they refuse to send it to residential areas or to non-research organizations. Are there any websites where I can find it?

 

[asian.neet]

Can I take regular anti nausea medication with this?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Can I take regular anti nausea medication with this?

Afaik, OTC (if you mean that with regular) isn't strong enough.

Does anyone know if this SN means that it's pure? With the reagent stuff? Thank you.

99% reagent grade is fine.

General info about common grades of reagents and chemicals (Web search result): www.labmanager.com/the-most-common-grades-of-reagents-and-chemicals-2655

 

[KibblesNBits]

Can someone please send me a reliable source that ships to Canada? Please pm me. <3

 

[seeking2024]

i've searched many many times through many threads (even using advanced and read a TON of posts here) and i don't have a definitive answer as i have seen both yes and no answers, although, i'm leaning towards yes.

does acs/reagent grade (esp if it is listed at 95-99% pure) suffice as SN for ctb?

i mean, if the purity is all that matters, both should work but i need to be sure because they could have just enough difference, to make a difference.

t.i.a.

 

[seeking2024]

I bought the wrong thing. I thought I had bought SN. Found out I had bought sodium nitrate. How difficult is it to convert to nitrite? Can I do it?

not sure if anyone answerd but i watched some videos on the conversion process and it is difficult if you're not set up for it. there is some know-how involved as well as testing at the end. (i THINK the only other "chemical" needed is starch?

 

[vetreadytodie1972]

I'm desperate to CTB right now. I think suicide by cop is the easiest at this point, given where I live. I am so tired, and no one believes me or believes in me anyway. I'm too stupid and too tired of fighting.

 

[Sk3le]

So to test the sn with the aquarium strips i Need to mix It with distilled water?
The One found in the supermarkets Is ok?

 

[wyo777]

I am afraid, that SN it is not such easy. I think the time between drinking and dead will be full of pain, seizures etc. Also i am afraid then when heartbeating will raise and you start feeling that you are nearly there you can panic and start viomating by putting fingers intho throat. But still i think i will go with this one.

 

[stonrot]

Hi guys, sorry for the silly question, but I want to be sure. Is there any problem if I take the SN in the morning instead of at night? Will I still black out quickly, even after an entire night of sleep? I'm afraid to do it at night because my family may find me earlier. So I was thinking of doing it in the morning because I will be fasting and alone at home.

My second option is to go to a motel. But I have read reports of people who failed to CTB in hotels because they were found out by staff. I don't know what to do. What do you guys recommend for me?

 

[Kta1994]

Im a 29M, 152lbs, to make sure it works is 25g of SN overkill?

 

[cowboypants]

Im a 29M, 152lbs, to make sure it works is 25g of SN overkill?

25g is recommended for people weighing under 100 kg. You should be fine

Hi guys, sorry for the silly question, but I want to be sure. Is there any problem if I take the SN in the morning instead of at night? Will I still black out quickly, even after an entire night of sleep? I'm afraid to do it at night because my family may find me earlier. So I was thinking of doing it in the morning because I will be fasting and alone at home.

My second option is to go to a motel. But I have read reports of people who failed to CTB in hotels because they were found out by staff. I don't know what to do. What do you guys recommend for me?

It's doable as long as they don't find you too early. The first hour is crucial from what I read

 

[Sageiois]

Would it work if i didnt take the medication and just took the sn after smoking some weed for the anti emetic?