Resource SN megathread

[faust]

Hello, are there any sources of SN in Europe which are up during lockdown?
Edit: except for Polish

 

[one4all]

I do not have anti-emetics. I also think 20g of SN is too much.

The lethal oral dose of nitrite for adults has been variously reported to be between 0.7 and 6 g NO2- (approximately 10 to 100 mg NO2-/kg).
In that case, if I only took 8 grams (as per my weight), wouldn't that suffice, and keep my risk of throwing up lower?

I think a common factor is to make sure you have enough SN in you, even after you throw up, to make sure the desired goal is accomplished.
I'm can't tell you how much ingested SN would make you throw up (with or without AEs). The body likes to try and reject toxins introduced to it. That's just my thoughts.

 

[Merith]

I think a common factor is to make sure you have enough SN in you, even after you throw up, to make sure the desired goal is accomplished.
I'm can't tell you how much ingested SN would make you throw up (with or without AEs). The body likes to try and reject toxins introduced to it. That's just my thoughts.

Yep, that's right, but the more you flood your body directly increases the likelihood of expulsion. The point I was getting at was to find the sweetspot, which doesn't cause expulsion but successfully floods the bloodstream to a toxic level. I suppose there's a first for any type of documentation, and also -- wasn't there a doctor who died from one gram?

 

[one4all]

Yep, that's right, but the more you flood your body directly increases the likelihood of expulsion. The point I was getting at was to find the sweetspot, which doesn't cause expulsion but successfully floods the bloodstream to a toxic level. I suppose there's a first for any type of documentation, and also -- wasn't there a doctor who died from one gram?

I think there have been reports of people dying on several grams or so. Finding a sweet spot for how much SN it takes for someone to CTB, i'm not going down that path.
I see what you are saying though. I just can't tell you the right amount or not. If i chose..i will stick with the guide for the amount.

 

[Merith]

I think there have been reports of people dying on several grams or so. Finding a sweet spot for how much SN it takes for someone to CTB, i'm not going down that path.
I see what you are saying though. I just can't tell you the right amount or not. If i chose..i will stick with the guide for the amount.

Worst that can happen is that I recover, or nothing happens at all - so it doesn't hurt to try, in my eyes
I have many methods at my disposal, but if I go with SN, this is the amount I will use, and it will be a confirmation if I never come back online.

 

[faust]

Worst that can happen is that I recover, or nothing happens at all - so it doesn't hurt to try, in my eyes
I have many methods at my disposal, but if I go with SN, this is the amount I will use, and it will be a confirmation if I never come back online.

The reason why we use such a dose is because we want to make sure our death is fast.
If you take a small amount, this may lead to a lower percentage of methemoglobin and it can take more time to pass out.
The worst thing to experience is remaining on stage 3 and not passing out (table below). But even 2-3 g can be very dangerous.
If you decide to use 8 g, will you take any beta-blockers to decrease the heart rate and lower blood pressure?

 

[Merith]

The reason why we use such a dose is because we want to make sure our death is fast.
If you take a small amount, this may lead to a lower percentage of methemoglobin and it can take more time to pass out.
The worst thing to experience is remaining on stage 3 and not passing out (table below). But even 2-3 g can be very dangerous.
If you decide to use 8 g, will you take any beta-blockers to decrease the heart rate and lower blood pressure?

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Everything is hard to get to right now, so the answer to that is no. But thank you for clarifying my mistaken viewpoint.

 

[Busdriver]

Dyspnea sucks , but seems to be scarce in the documented cases.

 

[faust]

Everything is hard to get to right now, so the answer to that is no. But thank you for clarifying my mistaken viewpoint.

No, your viewpoint is not mistaken, I guess you are trying to find the most reliable dose to avoid failure because you don't have AE, am I right?

Dyspnea sucks , but seems to be scarce in the documented cases.

Not a big deal. It can make you a bit anxious, but it won't kill you or make you suffer. it is just the reaction of our body to lower oxyhemoglobin levels. Even not the same as when we are doing sports.

 

[Merith]

No, your viewpoint is not mistaken, I guess you are trying to find the most reliable dose to avoid failure because you don't have AE, am I right?

Not a big deal. It can make you a bit anxious, but it won't kill you or make you suffer. it is just the reaction of our body to lower oxyhemoglobin levels. Even not the same as when we are doing sports.

Yeah, you're right. I don't have much to work with in regards to SN specifically, but it's the most 'peaceful' method I have access to.

 

[faust]

Yeah, you're right. I don't have much to work with in regards to SN specifically, but it's the most 'peaceful' method I have access to.

Do you have access to any OTC antiemetics?

 

[Busdriver]

Not a big deal. It can make you a bit anxious, but it won't kill you or make you suffer. it is just the reaction of our body to lower oxyhemoglobin levels. Even not the same as when we are doing sports.

That is comforting. I mistook it for hypoxia. I imagine the time after SN ingestion as a fatal panic attack or like a fatal bad trip (during weed smoking).
What do you think?

 

[Merith]

Do you have access to any OTC antiemetics?

Currently, no. According to the resources I have, there aren't any OTC antiemetics, at least in America.

 

[faust]

That is comforting. I mistook it for hypoxia. I imagine the time after SN ingestion as a fatal panic attack or like a fatal bad trip (during weed smoking).
What do you think?

I imagine it like being in sauna with a huge amount of vapor when you are breathing faster, feeling a bit dizzy and it is very hot.

Currently, no. According to the resources I have, there aren't any OTC antiemetics, at least in America.

How about getting a prescription? If you are in US, I know, it is possible.

 

[InTheAirTonight]

The reason why we use such a dose is because we want to make sure our death is fast.
If you take a small amount, this may lead to a lower percentage of methemoglobin and it can take more time to pass out.
The worst thing to experience is remaining on stage 3 and not passing out (table below). But even 2-3 g can be very dangerous.
If you decide to use 8 g, will you take any beta-blockers to decrease the heart rate and lower blood pressure?

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This looks worrying. When does loss of consciousness happen?

 

[faust]

This looks worrying. When does loss of consciousness happen?

Usually within 15-20 minutes if regular dose taken. PePH says can be faster if propranolol is taken before.

 

[InTheAirTonight]

Did Nitschke ever release more info on the monitored SN users?

 

[faust]

Did Nitschke ever release more info on the monitored SN users?

I don't know, I only know that he reported there had been 10 monitored nitrite deaths by September 2019. It is written in the 2020 edition of PePH.

 

[Wyntergirl]

Can I take the stat dose of meto with SN or is the regiment over a few days better?

 

[faust]

Can I take the stat dose of meto with SN or is the regiment over a few days better?

Stat or Regimen?	Both used with equal success. Depends on your sensitivities, conditions, and preferences.
Regimen –	Builds tolerance – reduces side-effects Increased effectiveness – accumulates (also) – increased stomach tone over time Comfortable – structured, feel prepared for ctb
Stat –	Efficacy appears similar with less hassle (no schedule) Less worry – like side effects during 2 days Comfortable – not demanding, no anxious wait, quick & simple
So, which should I choose?	Really up to you. Regimen came from PPH, for old/fragile/sick people. This may address you, could decrease discomfort. Stat is effective, great, easy option for many people.

 

[Jumper Geo]

Hi all,

Just thought I would add this link to the SN Mega thread,

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...an-easy-and-cheap-solution-not-capsules.36248

Cheers Geo

 

[Moby]

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I'm planning to CTB this week most likely.

Would like to run this by you all and get feedback/adjustments before I go through with anything. Thinking I may document my experience on the day and feel less alone with you all here.

On the day:

-fasting all day

- Book into hotel in the afternoon

-in the eve take gravol
(my only option for AE, also taking about 150mg of seroquel per day)

-set up signs on the bedroom door warning of the body inside: "do not enter unless emergency services" etc.

-take a couple propanolol pills and one ativan

-prepare 2 cups of 25grams SN in 100ml of water.

-take two more ativan, one zopiclone, mirtazapine and a bunch of melatonin.

- Swallow 20 premade SN capsules (extra insurance? Or overkill?)

-crawl into bed with cup of sn in hand, and the other one on the bedside table. And a bucket in case i puke as well

Swallow the glass of SN and try to doze off.


If i vomit then i drink the other glass too.


Anyways thats my plan. Any input or feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Love you all ❤

 

[VolatilePotato]

So..ordered SN. Couldnt get the exact anti nausea, but got dramamine as an antimetic. Any pain associated with this before passing out? How bad is the nausea? Should I fast before? And can I finish a drink or 2 before and after (couple glasses of wine)? Have a lot of questions if anyone has sone insight.

 

[x-Ace-x]

So..ordered SN. Couldnt get the exact anti nausea, but got dramamine as an antimetic. Any pain associated with this before passing out? How bad is the nausea? Should I fast before? And can I finish a drink or 2 before and after (couple glasses of wine)? Have a lot of questions if anyone has sone insight.

All your questions have been answered in the SN FAQ. Sorry to not provide the answer here but people ask the same questions again and again so it will be easier if you could read that thread first :)

 

[idontwannadothisanym]

My Lord And Saviour SN
Forgive Me SN For I Have Sinned

 

[dxsxrdxr]

What are chances that you will vommit again after going unconciouss and so not reach the lethal dose of sn?
And for how long should try not to vommit so lethal dose will absorb?

 

[n3crite]

I have prepared the following 48 hour regime with the medication I have at hand, can someone confirm this is the way to go? I'm a rather big dude (6ft6in, 215lbs).

Spoiler: Regime

Day 1
08:00 1 x 10mg Metoclopramide (Primperan)
16:00 1 x 10mg Metoclopramide
24:00 1 x 10mg Metoclopramide + start fasting

Day 2
08:00 1 x 10mg Metoclopramide
16:00 1 x 10mg Metoclopramide
23:00 1 x 1g Paracetamol + 6 x 0,5mg Rivotril (clonazepam, 3mg in total)
23:15 3 x 10mg Metoclopramide (30mg in total)
23:30 3 x Maalox Antacid tablets (1200mg of magnesium hydroxide + 600mg aluminium oxide in total)
24:00 SN (25g in 50ml of water - prepare 3 doses in case of vomiting)

 

[Busdriver]

I have prepared the following 48 hour regime with the medication I have at hand, can someone confirm this is the way to go? I'm a rather big dude (6ft6in, 215lbs).

Spoiler: Regime

Day 1
08:00 1 x 10mg Metoclopramide (Primperan)
16:00 1 x 10mg Metoclopramide
24:00 1 x 10mg Metoclopramide + start fasting

Day 2
08:00 1 x 10mg Metoclopramide
16:00 1 x 10mg Metoclopramide
23:00 1 x 1g Paracetamol + 6 x 0,5mg Rivotril (clonazepam, 3mg in total)
23:15 3 x 10mg Metoclopramide (30mg in total)
23:30 3 x Maalox Antacid tablets (1200mg of magnesium hydroxide + 600mg aluminium oxide in total)
24:00 SN (25g in 50ml of water - prepare 3 doses in case of vomiting)

Your regimen is looking sharp!

I don't really know about fasting. I thought it was a thing to start 6-8 hours before the SN drink. Check this. amazing post regarding fasting.

 

[Taraxias]

From benzos I have 5 xanax .are they ok to use in my regime and when to take ?

 

[n3crite]

I don't really know about fasting. I thought it was a thing to start 6-8 hours before the SN drink. Check this. amazing post regarding fasting.

Thanks for the link, interesting indeed! Would it have negative effects to fast earlier, so it is better not to fast too soon? I've adjusted the regime so that I have a last light meal and water only at 12:00 on the day of SN intake and from 16:00 onward a total fast (not too hard for me, I barely eat nowadays).