Resource SN megathread

[jake3d]

It depends on what benzos you have on hand as their onset of action varies widely. Read the leaflet and wikipedia entry for your particular medicine.

 

[Roger]

What do benzos do ?

 

[Watcher]

Some could clear me one doubt, it's necessary to have the empty stomach at least two days before drinking the sn?

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

Some could clear me one doubt, it's necessary to have the empty stomach at least two days before drinking the sn?

I think the normal advice is 8 hours. Start the meto 48hrs before.

 

[Watcher]

I think the normal advice is 8 hours. Start the meto 48hrs before.

Thanks

 

[jake3d]

What do benzos do ?

Benzodiazepines are kinda like alcohol in pill form. They remove anxiety and inhibition and in higher doses they sedate you, if you force yourself to stay awake there will be some loss of motor control and possibly blackouts (you'll do shit that you won't remember afterwards. They are not painkillers however they allow one to sleep ignoring the pain.

 

[Crystal Labeija]

Any info on SN salt from websites like amazon? I feel like the liquid is too risky. Salt would be easier.

 

[jake3d]

All the discussion on here is about the SN salt, unsure where you picked up that it would be a liquid. You dissolve the salt in water so you can drink it, that's the only stage where a liquid is involved.

 

[Letmego. Please]

How reliable are the sources saying weed is ok as an anti-emetic?

Completely unreliable i'm afraid, yes certain strains have been shown to help Chemo patients, but it is in no way a substitute for Meto or Dom. If you like a smoke i would still recommend having a nice toke on the way out.

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

Not sure if this has been asked before. But how long does SN last when mixed with water? Does it degrade in its ability to make you ctb the longer you leave it?

 

[jake3d]

Not sure if this has been asked before. But how long does SN last when mixed with water? Does it degrade in its ability to make you ctb the longer you leave it?

I am about to answer this question soon as i've had a bottle mixed with a little SN around for more than 1 month, since I've done my test on the substance. I will perform the test again and get back to you.

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

I am about to answer this question soon as i've had a bottle mixed with a little SN around for more than 1 month, since I've done my test on the substance. I will perform the test again and get back to you.

Thanks that would be very useful information for the forum.

 

[pleasethistime]

hello again everybody, i bought 2 100 gr bottles more than a month ago and opened one bottle for 10 seconds to check. back then it was very white but today i rechecked the previously opened bottle and noticed that it is yellowish compared to the day i bought it.
do you think it lost its chemical characteristics? i will open other box when i am gonna ctb but what if it also got yellowish like the other. shit. it was very hard to get them without getting attention. it is probably the hot weather though they are in a drawer.

 

[1234dave]

@TheRealEndgame: The regimen is done with metoclopramide or domperidone, cimetidine is an acid reducer and you only need a 800mg dose 30min before having your poison, don't confuse the two.

@thrwaway99: MDMA is a stimulant, it will keep you awake. Don't. 2CB is a psychedelic and shouldn't interact in any way, but who knows. I certainly wouldn't end my life with a bad trip.

hello again everybody, i bought 2 100 gr bottles more than a month ago and opened one bottle for 10 seconds to check. back then it was very white but today i rechecked the previously opened bottle and noticed that it is yellowish compared to the day i bought it.
do you think it lost its chemical characteristics? i will open other box when i am gonna ctb but what if it also got yellowish like the other. shit. it was very hard to get them without getting attention. it is probably the hot weather though they are in a drawer.

It's meant to be yellowish colour

 

[Roger]

hello again everybody, i bought 2 100 gr bottles more than a month ago and opened one bottle for 10 seconds to check. back then it was very white but today i rechecked the previously opened bottle and noticed that it is yellowish compared to the day i bought it.
do you think it lost its chemical characteristics? i will open other box when i am gonna ctb but what if it also got yellowish like the other. shit. it was very hard to get them without getting attention. it is probably the hot weather though they are in a drawer.

It is usually described as white-ish/yellow-ish. Mine is sealed in an opaque plastic sachet, and to avoid any possibility of degradation I have not opened it, so I don't know what it looks like.

 

[pleasethistime]

It's meant to be yellowish colour

but when i bought it it was white like table salt.
anyway aint opening the other bottle until the last moment.

It is usually described as white-ish/yellow-ish. Mine is sealed in an opaque plastic sachet, and to avoid any possibility of degradation I have not opened it, so I don't know what it looks like.

thats why i bought 2 bottles.

 

[Roger]

thats why i bought 2 bottles.

I have mistakenly bought another sachet, due for delivery next week.
That means that I'll have 500 gm of the stuff, when I'll need but twenty.

 

[Osiris_Horus777]

I don't know about all this additional stuff, can't I just buy SN and mix with water and done?

 

[Thorn]

I don't know about all this additional stuff, can't I just buy SN and mix with water and done?

This is a chemical your body will recognize as harmful and tries to reject, under normal conditions. You need to delay the reflexes for it to work as intended.

 

[1234dave]

Sn is effectively long drawn out hanging, in terms of bodily feelings it seems then. 15seconds for hanging whereas 30 mins for Sn, sounds too much psychological torture compared to hanging

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

Sn is effectively long drawn out hanging, in terms of bodily feelings it seems then. 15seconds for hanging whereas 30 mins for Sn, sounds too much psychological torture compared to hanging

I'd be too scared of not hanging myself properly and just being left with the obvious marks on your neck.

 

[Suicidal4Ever]

Is this what i need? I can just ride to the store and pick this up?

hello again everybody, i bought 2 100 gr bottles more than a month ago and opened one bottle for 10 seconds to check. back then it was very white but today i rechecked the previously opened bottle and noticed that it is yellowish compared to the day i bought it.
do you think it lost its chemical characteristics? i will open other box when i am gonna ctb but what if it also got yellowish like the other. shit. it was very hard to get them without getting attention. it is probably the hot weather though they are in a drawer.

Where did u purchase from? Can it fit in your pocket or does it only come in bulk?

 

[Dreamcolleger]

Does anyone know how long people have stayed awake after taking SN? I know PPH days 12 minutes, but I've heard about people on here taking it and then talking with people until they lose consciousness. I just wondered if anyone knows how long people have stayed online chatting after taking it.

 

[jake3d]

15 to 30 minutes.

 

[Crystal Labeija]

All the discussion on here is about the SN salt, unsure where you picked up that it would be a liquid. You dissolve the salt in water so you can drink it, that's the only stage where a liquid is involved.

All the resourcing is towards liquid SN, not salt.

 

[pane]

All the resourcing is towards liquid SN, not salt.

Do you know for a fact that sodium nitrite is available in liquid form and do you have a source for obtaining it? Otherwise I politely say that I think you're mistaken.

As far as I know, sodium nitrite is most commonly available as a crystalline powder substance. Furthermore sodium nitrite IS a salt, an inorganic salt used to cure/preserve meats.

I believe you're confusing SN with Nembutal. Currently, Nembutal is ONLY available in a diluted liquid form from A in Mexico. A few years ago there used to be several people selling Nembutal in powder form (which is more concentrated and requires a smaller amount of liquid to be consumed with it) but those sources have disappeared.

Also regarding powdered Nembutal, according to the following thread Nitschke did a livestream in March in which he said several people have apparently bought Nembutal powder from China but didn't give any details about how to contact these suppliers:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-powder-is-coming-back.14431/#post-326834

 

[jake3d]

Also regarding powdered Nembutal, according to the following thread Nitschke did a livestream in March in which he said several people have apparently bought Nembutal powder from China but didn't give any details about how to contact these suppliers:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-powder-is-coming-back.14431/#post-326834

Yes, I have heard rumors but they either stay very well hidden or it is such a niche substnce that maybe it is only synthesized on order (and of course it won't be cheap). Dignitas uses powdered N, they must be getting it somewhere, but so far, my searches turned out empty.

My method remains sodium nitrite anyway.

 

[daikon]

How are people feeling about that unsuccessful SN attempt thread posted recently?

 

[1234dave]

I am about to answer this question soon as i've had a bottle mixed with a little SN around for more than 1 month, since I've done my test on the substance. I will perform the test again and get back to you.

What were the results jake?

Cheers mate

 

[jake3d]

How are people feeling about that unsuccessful SN attempt thread posted recently?

I think I know who you are talking about. He wasn't being serious about it, did it on impulse without any antiemetic or anything and he threw it up 30 seconds later. I just lost a good friend here to SN so it most definitely works. Hope she's in a better place now.

What were the results jake?

Still didn't get round to it, I am injured and have work to go to, so I can get a little slow at times.