Discussion Should we be ashamed?

[mini_weeny]

Should we be ashamed of having mental health issues? Of harming ourselves?? Of wanting to die?? Why can't we help ourselves to get out of this loop of depression? Are we to blame?

 

[Catlovergirl]

Hi there, not at all . It's just a crazy ass big stigma that's still attached2 it which even that Im from south africa it's still there. I'm now going to make me something 2 eat then carry on chatting then off to bed.
A chemical imbalance? many things can cause it especially those things thats's out of your control.

Should we be ashamed of having mental health issues? Of harming ourselves?? Of wanting to die?? Why can't we help ourselves to get out of this loop of depression? Are we to blame?

No, i personally believe as there's so much outside environmental factors that come into play. Oh no, i made the most not nice tasting cheese sandwitch,

 

[WornOutLife]

I always wonder if we really have mental issues. I mean, is"liiving no matter what" the right thing to do? Why can't we decide when we want to leave this world in which we never asked to be born?
Food for thought...

Although it seems I have bipolar disorder so, I'm not that mentally healthy/stable lol

 

[Catlovergirl]

I think i do have as Ive been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. It's a real crappy disorder 4 me though but right now it's 3am an i hvae my kitty on my bed and i sing 2 her briefly as im buzzing cz my friend brought brandy. I'd say go 4 it as in getting help coz i did as well but it never worked so im gonna try more of a holistic way. Excuse my grammar lol.

I always wonder if we really have mental issues. I mean, is"liiving no matter what" the right thing to do? Why can't we decide when we want to leave this world in which we never asked to be born?
Food for thought...

Although it seems I have bipolar disorder so, I'm not that mentally healthy/stable lol

Trust me, you not alone .
It's now early hours of the morning in south africa as it's about 3am but im doing my favourite numbing out substance alcohol. I'm almost done and it's brandy but it makes me happy and talkative but then ill logout. Just wishing my fellow community peeps safety and peace.
It's now early hours of the morning in south africa as it's about 3am but im doing my favourite numbing out substance alcohol. I'm almost done and it's brandy but it makes me happy and talkative but then ill logout. Just wishing my fellow community peeps safety and peace.

 

[demuic]

Should we be ashamed of having mental health issues? Of harming ourselves?? Of wanting to die?? Why can't we help ourselves to get out of this loop of depression? Are we to blame?

I don't think there's anything to be ashamed of.

Many people are dealt a bad hand in life. People don't want to acknowledge that for a lot of people life is not worth living, because it breaks the illusion that life is always worth it no matter what.

Others can live in that illusion, but I won't.

For me, the very nature of existence itself, and specifically existence on this planet full of evil and senseless humans is something I oppose.

 

[GreenTree]

Were not too blame as we didn't choose these awful mental diseases.

 

[Spiral]

I think no, nobody is to blame for having any other type of health issue so why should having a mental health issue be treated differently? The people who do blame us for our mental health problems don't understand what a mental health problem actually is. They think we just feel sad and they think "hey we'll I was sad when my dog died but I eventually got over it so why are they not getting over it" people use the word depression interchangeably with grief and heartbreak and that mixing of words is partly responsible for people's misconceptions about the condition. It is very hard for people to understand things they can't see with their eyes. They cannot comprehend what it is like being unable to even think normally. Maybe one day after many years of research they will find a way to make it visible in brain scans or blood tests but until then we will just have to accept ourselves quietly and support each other since the normies won't be accepting us any time soon. Don't be ashamed, be proud for being brave and honest enough to admit you feel differently to the herd :)

 

[Konjac]

I think we've all genuinely tried to get better at some point. It's not like we suddenly became mentally ill and immediately said 'haha time for suicide'. It doesn't work like that. To get to the point of signing up to this website, to be seriously considering CTB... we've been through some shit, and that's okay. We're not selfish, we shouldn't be made to feel ashamed of things we can't control. We didn't choose to have these issues... Anyone who says that has no idea what it's like to live with mental health issues.

 

[Teas]

Why would I feel ashamed for myself when society is the one that's fucked up.

 

[Yeet555]

You know, sometimes I really do have those moments.

Like...WTF???!!!!!

I'm young af, and I'm doing this????!!!!!

This is totally not me!!!!

and its not....

but we live in an opposite world.

and you can't live in an opposite world with out it effecting you, you know?

like...as strong willed as you may be, if the tentacles are constantly grasping for you, constantly going at you...you're going to give up eventually.

thats where I'm at.

because honestly...everytime these last few months I've gotten my hopes up, they've be brought crashing down.

so its brought me a lot of peace to say, well, you know what....this world isn't for me anymore. lol

sometimes you do need someone to reach out and lend you a hand, but, as I understand, people are under threat of pain to do that, so thats sad too.

the ironic part is, it was and is unnenecessary, since they are implementing their New World Order anyways, and nothing is going to stop that lol

 

[TSCursor]

kinda, sometimes i fell bad for being a problem to everybody

 

[imsorrythatimhere]

I guess it depends on each person. But partially no, because we didn't really choose to live the life we have now. I can't speak for the other part, since I don't know you. Personally however, I probably dug myself into a hole when it came to life. Had I been better, I'd be so much happier

 

[FarAcrossTheWater]

I think another to frame it is why would you be ashamed of dying? There is so much suffering in this world - rape, torture, genocide, and war. We can do nothing about that. The objective in life is to pound as much dopamine into a 3 pound slab of meat in our skulls until we die. We shit, piss, and fuck our way into the death of our planet. I don't know about you but I want fucking out.

 

[PrettyMoose]

We're no more to blame for that than we are for being born.

 

[mini_weeny]

We're no more to blame for that than we are for being born.

What the hell, I hate my parents. The only good thing I have done is not having children.

 

[signifying nothing]

Should we be ashamed of having mental health issues? Of harming ourselves?? Of wanting to die?? Why can't we help ourselves to get out of this loop of depression? Are we to blame?

If you feel ashamed and to blame then recognise those feelings as they are valid. The problem is in asking if we 'should' have feelings - the danger comes from denying or shutting off legitimate feelings that you're having because others say you shouldn't have them, for whatever reason.

I think we do contribute to our situations, but there are also many other factors involved, some of which we can influence and change, others we cannot. Part of the struggle is trying to become aware of what affects you and how, and then trying to do something about it if that's possible.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

Being ashamed was something I felt for a long time, and still do, since I've become physically ill. Since no one can see how bad my disabilities are ravaging my body, they like to pretend that they aren't real and that I'm overreacting and don't want to change/get better.

I have always blamed myself, even though I know rationally it is not my fault I have chronic pain, I could not have predicted it. Others treat me like a burden, like a drain on society, a drain on THEIR happiness and life plans. It's almost like the world around me wants me to die, but as soon as a I mention ctb, I get called attention seeking and told that I don't really want to do it and I'd regret my decision.

People act like it is such a dirty and taboo thing. They can't fathom somebody being in so much pain that death would be sweet release for them. If I had no responsibilities, sure, I would not want to ctb so much. Yet as long as I'm treated as a cog in the machine, a waste of resources, and a future wagie who needs to be rehabilitated so I can work, I don't think I or anyone else here should be ashamed. Those people who cast judgement our way are the ones who ought to be ashamed.

 

[mini_weeny]

Being ashamed was something I felt for a long time, and still do, since I've become physically ill. Since no one can see how bad my disabilities are ravaging my body, they like to pretend that they aren't real and that I'm overreacting and don't want to change/get better.

I have always blamed myself, even though I know rationally it is not my fault I have chronic pain, I could not have predicted it. Others treat me like a burden, like a drain on society, a drain on THEIR happiness and life plans. It's almost like the world around me wants me to die, but as soon as a I mention ctb, I get called attention seeking and told that I don't really want to do it and I'd regret my decision.

People act like it is such a dirty and taboo thing. They can't fathom somebody being in so much pain that death would be sweet release for them. If I had no responsibilities, sure, I would not want to ctb so much. Yet as long as I'm treated as a cog in the machine, a waste of resources, and a future wagie who needs to be rehabilitated so I can work, I don't think I or anyone else here should be ashamed. Those people who cast judgement our way are the ones who ought to be ashamed.

So sorry to hear, it saddens me. I'm fighting chronic pain too and get the same treatment as you . Wish we could be healthy again. We don't mean to be a burden on anyone.