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Ben

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Sep 12, 2018
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How can this fail

By not disturbing the balance of carbon dioxide and oxygen in your brain enough through hyperventilating before you go into water.

A failed attempt is completely harmless. (Maybe minus some brain cells from huffing and puffing so hard) You'll just have to resurface when you're out of breath after submerging yourself.

If done correctly, you just go out like a light when you're underwater while you're holding your breath. A blackout is instant, not something you have time to react to and back out of the method.
 
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Wantingpeace

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Aug 16, 2018
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By not disturbing the balance of carbon dioxide and oxygen in your brain enough through hyperventilating before you go into water.

A failed attempt is completely harmless. (Maybe minus some brain cells from huffing and puffing so hard) You'll just have to resurface when you're out of breath after submerging yourself.

If done correctly, you just go out like a light when you're underwater while you're holding your breath. A blackout is instant, not something you have time to react to and back out of the method.

Ok thanks
 
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Wantingpeace

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Aug 16, 2018
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By not disturbing the balance of carbon dioxide and oxygen in your brain enough through hyperventilating before you go into water.

A failed attempt is completely harmless. (Maybe minus some brain cells from huffing and puffing so hard) You'll just have to resurface when you're out of breath after submerging yourself.

If done correctly, you just go out like a light when you're underwater while you're holding your breath. A blackout is instant, not something you have time to react to and back out of the method.
But you said failed attempt would be as horrific as failed hanging etc?
 
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Ben

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Sep 12, 2018
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But you said failed attempt would be as horrific as failed hanging etc?

Let me specify, because I didn't make it clear, you're right

A failed attempt on your own, with nobody there to see your unconscious body and rescue you, is harmless. You'll run out of breath, and resurface completely safe, although probably a little upset

A failed attempt because you were rescued could result in the same brain damage as a failed hanging.

I say a failed attempt is harmless because I'm assuming the one doing this method has eliminated the possibility of being pulled out of the water.
 
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UglyAndSuicidal

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Aug 19, 2018
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Let me specify, because I didn't make it clear, you're right

A failed attempt on your own, with nobody there to see your unconscious body and rescue you, is harmless. You'll run out of breath, and resurface completely safe, although probably a little upset

A failed attempt because you were rescued could result in the same brain damage as a failed hanging.

I say a failed attempt is harmless because I'm assuming the one doing this method has eliminated the possibility of being pulled out of the water.

So as long as we arent rescued, there should be no reason it fails :)
 
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Wantingpeace

Wizard
Aug 16, 2018
672
Ok thanks will come back to this I can't really grasp it..so no chance if no One here for days to "rescue" me that this would fail and end up vegetable?
 
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Ben

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Sep 12, 2018
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Ok thanks will come back to this I can't really grasp it..so no chance if no One here for days to "rescue" me that this would fail and end up vegetable?

After blacking out, you will not be able to be revived after 3 minutes, no need to go days without being discovered.

Do a bit of googling, there are diagrams, gifs, reasearch, etc. I understand it because I've researched this for hours. I might just be failing to explain it well enough for everyone to understand, so maybe look at the information yourself. It might make more sense to you then my explanation
 
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Wantingpeace

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Aug 16, 2018
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After blacking out, you will not be able to be revived after 3 minutes, no need to go days without being discovered.

Do a bit of googling, there are diagrams, gifs, reasearch, etc. I understand it because I've researched this for hours. I might just be failing to explain it well enough for everyone to understand, so maybe look at the information yourself. It might make more sense to you then my explanation
No no is difficult to understand stuff at times ..will need to come back to it ..thanks
 
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Ben

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Sep 12, 2018
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I have been getting a fair amount of messages asking about this method and how it works.

My knowledge of this method stems from the research I found on google, and the successful trail attempt I had performing this method.

I am not a biologist. I'm not a scientist. Take my advice with a grain of salt. What works for me, might not work for you.

The only thing I can say confidently about this method, is there are facts and statistics backing up its lethal potential.

If you are unable to make yourself blackout, I probably don't have the answers you are looking for. There are so many variables that could be in play as to why this method may fail you...so if you want REAL answers as to why you can not get this method to work, youll have to find them with your own research, not my opinions.
 
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Deleted member 1768

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Aug 15, 2018
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This is a very easy, painless, free method, that can very easily pass as accidental.

Directions:
https://imgur.com/a/cNul4r7

I haven't seen it mentioned before, but they sure like to warn us about it, basically giving us instructions by doing the opposite of their points

Instructions:
https://imgur.com/a/0Kin07q

This is a excerpt from their website:


WHO: Shallow water blackout (SWB) can affect anyone who is breath-holding, even the physically fit swimmer. It is especially seen in competitive swimmers, Navy SEALs, snorkelers, spearfishermen or anyone who free-dives. Blackouts cut across the spectrum of freediver training affecting all levels. No one is protected from succumbing to an underwater blackout.

WHAT: Shallow Water Blackout results from hypoxia (low oxygen) to the brain. What triggers one to breathe is elevation of carbon dioxide (CO2), not low oxygen (O2). One basically "blacks out" or faints in the water. For some, their lungs will take on water leading to drowning while others simply suffocate or die of other causes brought on by the breath-holding. **Death can be a result of the prolonged breath-holding, even if not from so called "Shallow Water Blackout." Breath-holding may stimulate genetic triggers leading to various causes of death.

WHERE: Shallow Water Blackout can occur in any body of water (pool, lake, river, ocean or bath tub) when breath-holding under water, regardless of water depth. Even if lifeguards are on duty, there is still a great risk because it is hard to detect from above the water.

WHEN: Frequently, Shallow Water Blackout occurs WITHOUT ANY WARNING of its onset. In fact, because of the hypoxia and detached mental state one can feel euphoric and empowered to continue breath-holding. Unlike regular drowning where there can be 6-8 minutes before brain damage and death, there are ONLY about 2 ½ minutes before BRAIN DAMAGE then DEATH with SWB because the brain has already been oxygen deprived coupled with warm water as in swimming pools, hastening brain death.



WHY: Shallow Water Blackout occurs because of the LACK OF EDUCATION, AWARENESS, and UNDERSTANDING of the dangers of breath-holding. It also occurs because of the lack of safety training for swimmers, freedivers, snorkelers, and spearfishermen. The breath-holders do not understand how to prevent Shallow Water Blackout or how to survive if it happens to them. Unfortunately, training does not inoculate one against SWB. All too often trained freedivers succumb.

tldr: hyperventilate yourself then hold your breath underwater. You will blackout long before you are out of breath, and death comes within 3-4 minutes after that.
Thank you so much Ben...smile.
 
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Deleted member 1768

Enlightened
Aug 15, 2018
1,107
Yeah of course, but I just think it's pretty hard to make yourself pass out first... And I wanted to add that drowning, whilst relatively fast, is not painless or peaceful if you're conscious. I've done it before and I NEVER want to drown again.
I have drowned on numerous occasions while seizing, the best way to go in my opinion. You feel nothing that way, nothing at all. Pass out and...you are gone.
 
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MachineGunDani

Specialist
Sep 10, 2018
336
I have passed out suddenly just standing too long in line at a store lol my blood pressure tanked for some reason and I felt dizzy and was about to tell my bf that I didn't feel good but instead I woke up on the floor with mad people standing around me. I fell flat on my back bashing my head. Lol when I woke up one lady was trying to put my legs in the air haha and I was confused trying to stand back up and they kept pushing me down. So I sat indian style on the floor and passed out again. Just fell back, but I was sitting so it wasn't a huge fall like the first time. Then I sat back up again and my bf was like "wtf is wrong with u, why are u passing out?" Then I fainted for the last and third time...that time I pissed myself lol fun times!
 
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