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Advisor321

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Jun 3, 2022
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Yes it makes sense to use protonmail for communications. However if you order you will have to give D your name and address. Still not a problem since you both use encryption.

But ordering is not completely without risk if your package gets seized by customs. They will be able to trace that back to you and may come around for a wellness visit. It doesn't happen often, but it has happened more than usual in the last 2-3 weeks.
More than usual in USA, Europe, Asia? Is there any pattern?
Packages are seized on the border of country or somewhere else on the way to buyer?
 
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More than usual in USA, Europe, Asia? Is there any pattern?
Packages are seized on the border of country or somewhere else on the way to buyer?

Mostly in US and Canada. For now.

I haven't heard much from EU members (A few delays, one reported a broken seal, some are waiting a bit longer than usual, but otherwise no LE visits so far.)

Packages do get seized once in a while. It happens. It has always happened. That's the risk you take.

I wrote about it here:

Thread 'N from D: Potential repeat of 2019 seizures and wellness visits'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...t-of-2019-seizures-and-wellness-visits.91312/
 
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Advisor321

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Does anyone know if D accept payment via Western Union, or only BitCoin/Montero?
 
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steve_s5

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Nov 5, 2020
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Yes he does. If you ask him.
Also: how about you actually read a few more pages back in this very thread? There are plenty of people posting about this. Use the info that is already available.
So the Risk to delivery to europa is lower than actually usa/canada?
What would happen when the authority find out your address what is the penalty?
Prison for 2 Bottle i don't think so? maybe a money penalty to buy?
 
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Sk3le

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Oct 30, 2021
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how can i be "sure" that one bottle will be enough? it depend of my body weight or something like that?
 
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lostmyacc

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how can i be "sure" that one bottle will be enough? it depend of my body weight or something like that?
You can potentiate with dilantin . The nembutal will be used pretty much to put you to sleep, used as an anesthetic. The dilantin will kill you. You will have what is called a 'cardiac switch' aka a massive heart attack and die when in a barbiturate slumber with no pain. Cause of death will be heart attack, aka cardiac arrest not respiratory arrest.
 
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Sk3le

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You can potentiate with dilantin . The nembutal will be used pretty much to put you to sleep, used as an anesthetic. The dilantin will kill you. You will have what is called a 'cardiac switch' aka a massive heart attack and die when in a barbiturate slumber with no pain. Cause of death will be heart attack, aka cardiac arrest not respiratory arrest.
i dont have easy access to medicinal that are not over the counter in my country, im already struggling to obtain the antiemethics so the less medicinal i have to use the better and the safer is for me
 
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So the Risk to delivery to europa is lower than actually usa/canada?
What would happen when the authority find out your address what is the penalty?
Prison for 2 Bottle i don't think so? maybe a money penalty to buy?
Right now I can't really say.
It's possible that it's easier right now. Yes.

I had 6 people talking about seized packages and about 4 with either a LE visits (wellness check) or a letter telling them "not to order this again".
All in the US/CAN.
However, this is all based on simply people who I have directly been in contact with. There may have been similar issue in EUR but I simply haven't heard about them.

That being said: not a single person has had more than a finger wagged at them and worst case their products seized and gone to a psych eval (voluntarily).

No fines. No court. No legal actions.
There is no benefit in putting a suicidal person in jail for ordering one or two bottles of N. mostly because there is no risk to anyone other than that person.
 
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Ta555

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You can potentiate with dilantin . The nembutal will be used pretty much to put you to sleep, used as an anesthetic. The dilantin will kill you. You will have what is called a 'cardiac switch' aka a massive heart attack and die when in a barbiturate slumber with no pain. Cause of death will be heart attack, aka cardiac arrest not respiratory arrest.
You do realise that dilantin is like even harder to get than meto? I doubt this person has access to it.
how can i be "sure" that one bottle will be enough? it depend of my body weight or something like that?
Yes. If you are a heavier person it is best to use two bottles but it is said for the average person without a significant drug/alcohol history one bottle is enough.
 
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ChrisLeeHZ

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So the Risk to delivery to europa is lower than actually usa/canada?
What would happen when the authority find out your address what is the penalty?
Prison for 2 Bottle i don't think so? maybe a money penalty to buy?
Use a fake adrress and a fake name,I don't think u will go to prison if u just use it for suicide,even in China.
 
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Smart No More

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Use a fake adrress and a fake name,I don't think u will go to prison if u just use it for suicide,even in China.
How can you use a fake address? :)) I'm guessing they want to actually receive their parcel.
 
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How can you use a fake address? :)) I'm guessing they want to actually receive their parcel.
Send it to a friend and get them in trouble instead. :haha:
 
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sod

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if someone ctb using N, is autopsy done to the corpse to find the cause of death or it appear as natural death?
and if autopsy is done, how likely that they will find that N is the reason?
 
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if someone ctb using N, is autopsy done to the corpse to find the cause of death or it appear as natural death?
and if autopsy is done, how likely that they will find that N is the reason?
They will usually discover the N was the cause. You could try to make it appear as something else but it's not likely to work. If you want minimal autopsy you can leave a note saying it was N and then they only need to tox screen you for it to confirm. If you have significant health issues it's possible they will assume its that but again they will still most likely discover the N/barbiturates.
 
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EndIsNigh

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How to overcome survival instinct? I have N and AE, but I'm just terrified to actually take it in case I botch it, and call for help etc before I pass out. I realise this is probably my only chance, and it's just killing me on the inside (no pun intended..) I desperately want to do it, but I need to do it right.
 
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wljourney

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How to overcome survival instinct? I have N and AE, but I'm just terrified to actually take it in case I botch it, and call for help etc before I pass out. I realise this is probably my only chance, and it's just killing me on the inside (no pun intended..) I desperately want to do it, but I need to do it right.
That's probably a topic suitable for a new post as it is only peripherally related to "N from D".
 
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steve_s5

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Right now I can't really say.
It's possible that it's easier right now. Yes.

I had 6 people talking about seized packages and about 4 with either a LE visits (wellness check) or a letter telling them "not to order this again".
All in the US/CAN.
However, this is all based on simply people who I have directly been in contact with. There may have been similar issue in EUR but I simply haven't heard about them.

That being said: not a single person has had more than a finger wagged at them and worst case their products seized and gone to a psych eval (voluntarily).

No fines. No court. No legal actions.
There is no benefit in putting a suicidal person in jail for ordering one or two bottles of N. mostly because there is no risk to anyone other than that person.
Ok thx for you answer i think i will order in 1-2 month when the situation calmed down ( seizing of packages etc... )
 
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Seeking_Peace

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You'd have to be severely decomposed to hide N through toxicology. For instance, if done in a forest and not found for weeks to months. You can't fool an expert.
if someone ctb using N, is autopsy done to the corpse to find the cause of death or it appear as natural death?
and if autopsy is done, how likely that they will find that N is the reason?
 
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steve_s5

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I have another question, when 100ml (1 full bottle ) is enough to kill myself in 15-30 Minutes why buy people 2 bottles?
Is it because of the failure chance, with 1 one bottle or is it because death comes faster?
My biggest concern that i could survive, they where cases that people survived nembutal?
What you think, is 1 Bottle for a Man with (50/60+ Weight) ( Age: 30 ) enough?. i am not very healthy.
 
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lostmyacc

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Jun 1, 2022
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I have another question, when 100ml (1 full bottle ) is enough to kill myself in 15-30 Minutes why buy people 2 bottles?
Is it because of the failure chance, with 1 one bottle or is it because death comes faster?
My biggest concern that i could survive, they where cases that people survived nembutal?
What you think, is 1 Bottle for a Man with (50/60+ Weight) ( Age: 30 ) enough?. i am not very healthy.
Nobody drinks two bottles of nembutal and survive without medical intervention almost instantly.

Most people who drink Nembutal die within the hour.
The 15-30 minute deaths are usually injections not drinking.

The reason people drink two bottles instead of one. Is there is a small percentage <1% who do not die within 12 hours. They are in an extended coma for little longer until they have actual death.

The second bottle isn't needed it's just used to speed things up.
 
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steve_s5

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Nov 5, 2020
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Nobody drinks two bottles of nembutal and survive without medical intervention almost instantly.

Most people who drink Nembutal die within the hour.
The 15-30 minute deaths are usually injections not drinking.

The reason people drink two bottles instead of one. Is there is a small percentage <1% who do not die within 12 hours. They are in an extended coma for little longer until they have actual death.

The second bottle isn't needed it's just used to speed things up.
Ok thank you for you info
 
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Rmr

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Jun 5, 2021
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Folks, has anyone got a reply from D recently? I've sent them a concise email 10 days ago and yet to hear anything back. Should I send another one or do they take this long to reply?
 
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Rmr

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Jun 5, 2021
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Thank you! That's literally all I wrote in my first email - quantity, country, method of payment.
Will try again.
 
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wljourney

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Thank you! That's literally all I wrote in my first email - quantity, country, method of payment.
Will try again.
Good. Then he may just be out of stock right now. Or he simply can't ship to your country for whatever reasons. That's also a possibility.
 
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Γyuk

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May 21, 2022
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Anyone else had his/her present stuck in "warehouse" for more than 1 week? Does it mean customs is inspecting it?
 
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lostmyacc

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Jun 1, 2022
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Anyone else had his/her present stuck in "warehouse" for more than 1 week? Does it mean customs is inspecting it?
Mine was stuck for about 15 days. What happened was i got the package but it was tampered with a little (seal semi cut)
 
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Γyuk

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Ahh ok, hope it will still arrive then, die you order 1 or 2 bottles?
 
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Sk3le

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Oct 30, 2021
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I've seen a few people who are waiting for him to reply.

Since it's been 10 days, write him again but keep it VERY brief and simple.
Literally just "Hi I would like to buy 2 items please." You can add "Shipping to XYZ country" or "I can pay with BTC" (or whichever way you want to pay) but keep sentences short and simple.

That's all. If he has any supply, he'll reply within 2 days. Weekends may be a bit slower.
Remember: English is a foreign language for him.
how the payment in crypto works? like what happen if i send him today 0,038btc which are 1100$ usd right now and when he sees the payment btc has lost value and 0,038 is no longer 1100usd?
 
DerTod

DerTod

No alarms and no surprises
Apr 17, 2022
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Does anyone know if D still accepts Western Union? I am new to crypto and fear of making some mistake and lose money. Is it safe to send him via WU?
 
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Hercules

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Jan 31, 2021
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Does anyone know if D still accepts Western Union? I am new to crypto and fear of making some mistake and lose money. Is it safe to send him via WU?
Yes. D accepts WU. You have to ask him about it.
 
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