It is sad how this website is not comforting anymore.

[WorthlessTrash]

Wow. this place really has become as that dumpster fire.
of course the latter don't give a fuck when its all strangers. online.
This place is virtually no different then group time at the psych ward. :/ Avoid any thing extra at all costs.

So there is no true place afterall, that's to be expected. Can't be posting about suicide instead of actually doing my suicide. I pondered to myself, there was a reason I stopped interacting on all sites such as this because at the end of the day it doesn't bring it closer to or further from actually killing myself = the end goal. All it does it stall.

Better to die alone then to talk about it and be ridiculed on how potentially ineffective it is compared to others methods that are otherwise not viable to obtain. So I decide to take the less quick or more brutal route,, whatever works is what matters. Suffering this long, the slow painful death is no different, right?
That's rhetorical.
Place would've been better without the forum, just the methods threads and how to do it right. kinda like lostallhope.com without intervene.

What are you on about? This is the only place where you can openly talk about your desires or plans to CTB and not have to worry about someone involuntarily committing you. I'll take this over feeling like I have no choice but to bottle my feelings up.

 

[ornitier199]

If you feel bent, don't respond. Can't get a leopard to change its spots. Hit that ignore button and go to sleep. Wake up the next morning, rinse and repeat.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I think I did write about this months ago, but I feel like this even more now. I think that in the past, a long time ago, being on here did comfort me a bit, even know nothing could possibly ever make me feel better and I will always suffer no matter what. I feel like now, there has been too many pro life, harmful and insulting things on here. The last thing that suicidal people need is being made to feel worse. It is a shame how things turn out like this, but after all life is extremely disappointing. Things only seem to get worse.

I just think that in this world people will always be cruel and that is just the way that people are. At this point, it seems as though there is no peace or comfort in this life, there is only pain, and it is tiring trying to distract myself each day, having to deal with this miserable existence. Sometimes I do envy those who come on here for methods and just go. If euthanasia was legalised then this website would not even need to exist in the first place.

This life is so meaningless and temporary but at the same time so painful. I wish I never felt a need to write about this and I wish that I never felt a need to use the forum, if I was gone from this world I would not have to. I wish that I was gone more than anything, but of course dying is not easy. I envy those who have left this life as they are free from suffering, they do not have to deal with pointless life anymore. Non existence is all that I will ever want.

@FuneralCry i like and agree with what you say in your posts, philosophy worldview etc. . imo @FuneralCry i wouldn't respond to any post that imo is twisting what you said. imo if you put these posters on ignore they can't even see your posts so they won't be able to reply to your threads. At least it used to be that way with the ignore button that they couldn't see your posts on ignore. Seems to me these are baiting posts. imo seems like this thread is starting again to be turned into a flame war cc @Symbiote .

i think that we should all respect another person's worldview even if it differs from our own. There are billions of different beliefs ,opinions, religions etc. that people have . That someone has a different opinion on philosophy or life or whatever won't change my problems so that doesn't affect me what someone else thinks. for example i'm not religious and i want non-existence for me only but if someone else wants to live or believes in religion well good for them : how does their belief affect my life? not in one bit does it. so i won't get upset over what someone else thinks or believes.

My personal world view is that life is very bad. i wish for non-existence for me only. I'm not religious. i believe there is no afterlife nor reincarnation either, just non-existence forever after Death.

i'm not going to spend my time trying to change someone's belief in a religion just because i'm not religious. Not that i could change them anyway you can't. But why should i try to ? It's their belief and has nothing to do with me . They can believe what they want to if it gives them comfort or for whatever reason , it's their own life .Everyone should have freedom of choice to live or die and not be harrassed for their choice or belief.

 

[FairyHeart]

We don't really, both are terms only used in discussion on here and it doesn't matter which term is used. I did originally agree that one term was probably more appropriate than the other but it now seems that those who insist on the use of "anti choice" do so because they want clapbacks for coining it, and this makes me less inclined to use it.


I'd say 80% of the active users of this forum do that, including you. This place is not the Empathy Safe Haven, most people here genuinely dgaf about each other to any degree.

Can you stop saying these things to her? She's already down, most likely from the posts you made on that thread. It's also obvious that she read that thread and that it made her upset because of her post on it that basically is what she said in this thread. You made your point and she heard you, no need to keep going when she explicitly said that she feels down.

 

[Chinaski]

Can you stop saying these things to her? She's already down, most likely from the posts you made on that thread. It's also obvious that she read that thread because of her post on it that basically is what she said in this thread. You made your point and she heard you, no need to keep going when she explicitly said that she feels down.

Idgi, your suggestion here is that I'm singularly responsible for how she feels here, nothing I've written here is a specific attack but an accurate rebuttal of a nonsensical claim. If you want to single out an individual for attacking this user's output you should probably look elsewhere imo.

 

[Dot]

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[FairyHeart]

Idgi, your suggestion here is that I'm singularly responsible for how she feels here, nothing I've written here is a specific attack but an accurate rebuttal of a nonsensical claim. If you want to single out an individual for attacking this user's output you should probably look elsewhere imo.

You're assuming that I'm saying you're singularly responsible for how she feels. I didn't actually say that, but I will say you're most likely a large contributor to how she feels in this thread. You can keep going on about how you're giving 'rebuttals', but at the end of the day we both know that you're needlessly saying things that are obviously hurtful to someone who is already hurt. Again, you made your point and she heard you, no need to keep going.

 

[Chinaski]

You're assuming that I'm saying you're singularly responsible for how she feels. I didn't actually say that, but I will say you're most likely a large contributor to how she feels in this thread. You can keep going on about how you're giving 'rebuttals', but at the end of the day we both know that you're needlessly saying things that are obviously hurtful to someone who is already hurt. Again, you made your point and she heard you, no need to keep going.

You're the one keeping this shit going, if someone is going to keep pointing out how pro-lifers are basically everyone but them they're going to get pushback. As for "going on about rebuttals" I've mentioned it once, to describe an actual rebuttal. It's interesting that your white knighting begins here when there are numerous posts of late which are far more aggressively critical of FuneralCry's output in general, those would be a better place to start imo. I'd add in relation to my posts in this thread that if FuneralCry is allowed to point at output and describe it as phoney platitudes then, frankly, so am l.

 

[motel rooms]

my experience of people who call the shots regarding pain and suffering, describes.someone who doesnt really know what pain and suffering is..

Well, I know what it is & I'd never tell anyone, OP included, that their pain isn't real/serious. That's loathsome.

i think that we should all respect another person's worldview even if it differs from our own.

OP has every right to express her views in as many posts as she wants, but she doesn't get to call those of us who choose to live despite the fact that life can be horrible delusional. I never called her delusional, btw. It's undeniable that she's very kind most of the time, but she isn't as saintly as you need to believe. Pro-choice angels don't accuse people whose only sin is that they don't want to pretend that everyone's life is only suffering of being invalidating pro-lifers. Repeatedly refusing to apologize for doing so is stubborn & rude. She's not the only person who has feelings. I'm sorry every moment of her life is pure agony & I would never dream of trivializing her pain.

@Dot What OP has done is definitely not dissimilar to what @atari did when he pissed people off by insisting that they all admit they are victims. It wouldn't kill her to apologize, especially since she actually wrote that she is the kindest person on this forum & that she has never done anything wrong (in her entire life? lol).

 

[Rational man]

Well, I know what it is & I'd never tell anyone, OP included, that their pain isn't real/serious. That's loathsome.



OP has every right to express her views in as many posts as she wants, but she doesn't get to call those of us who choose to live despite the fact that life can be horrible delusional. I never called her delusional, btw. It's undeniable that she's very kind most of the time, but she isn't as saintly as you need to believe. Pro-choice angels don't accuse people whose only sin is that they don't want to pretend that everyone's life is only suffering of being invalidating pro-lifers. Repeatedly refusing to apologize for doing so is stubborn & rude. She's not the only person who has feelings. I'm sorry every moment of her life is pure agony & I would never dream of trivializing her pain.

@Dot What OP has done is definitely not dissimilar to what @atari did when he pissed people off by insisting that they all admit they are victims. It wouldn't kill her to apologize, especially since she actually wrote that she is the kindest person on this forum & that she has never done anything wrong (in her entire life? lol).

i know you suffer tremendously, i see it in your words.

 

[YourNeighbor]

dude it's super easy to not be a big old meanie, for the love of god use your critical thinking skills and knock it off

Perhaps if you posted a list of forum members whose threads are beyond scrutiny, it would make things easier on everyone.

Seriously though, this is a forum. If someone tosses out arguments in a thread or comments, it's foreseeable there may be responses that do not merely agree. That is what a forum is. Perhaps there could be section of this forum called "Echo Chamber" where the only permissible responses to threads are "Yes!" and "You're so right!" Until then, if there are no personal insults being traded, don't feel the need to jump in to defend on a personal level any given op against disagreement.

This op, btw, as nice as she seems, makes many bizarre claims regularly, including blanket statements about people who *choose* life over death for as long as it's feasible. It's her right, of course, as it is the right of those who disagree with her to say so.

 

[GentleJerk]

The overwhelming majority of members here value and appreciate the OG poster greatly, and always support, defend and compliment her. It's beyond me why none of these people ever get the slightest recognition or thanks from her, or even so much as a 'like' in return for their solidarity- but there you have it. Any question or response that is somewhat critical is met swiftly with extensive discourse.

This is the way.

 

[FairyHeart]

You're the one keeping this shit going, if someone is going to keep pointing out how pro-lifers are basically everyone but them they're going to get pushback. As for "going on about rebuttals" I've mentioned it once, to describe an actual rebuttal. It's interesting that your white knighting begins here when there are numerous posts of late which are far more aggressively critical of FuneralCry's output in general, those would be a better place to start imo. I'd add in relation to my posts in this thread that if FuneralCry is allowed to point at output and describe it as phoney platitudes then, frankly, so am l.

If I'm the one who's keeping this going for you, then I'll stop replying after this

 

[rationaltake]

Perhaps there could be section of this forum called "Echo Chamber" where the only permissible responses to threads are "Yes!" and "You're so right!"

Brilliant! This should definitely be put forward as a suggestion.

 

[diyCTB]

You feel hurt, move along. Feel hurt and want to respond? Ignore it instead and spare the person from unnecessary debate who's mentally unwell and has barely any energy left. That's a real person with problems way serious than of normal person. Not digital avatar who you can challenge, debate until it feels right to you. Still can't resist? Go to forums masquerading as a pro-choice and coin a more apt avatar of a pro-lifer. Classify them into groups for your political correctness so nobody feels hurt again in discussions.

We are unofficial. We have no lawyers representing us. Why worry about correctness of terms and spur debates when person might be hanging on a thin thread? Don't do it here. Don't "commoditize" Sanctuary and cause division. Why do people like to complicate things so much...

 

[motel rooms]

The overwhelming majority of members here value and appreciate the OG poster greatly, and always support, defend and compliment her.

And that's a fact. She is probably the most treasured SS member & nothing is going to change that. It's true that she's been attacked by a small number of actual anti-choice turds over the past year, but it's sad that she's unable to tell the difference between them & those of us who merely disagree with her generalizations & would never dismiss her pain/tell her to just snap out of her deep depression.

You feel hurt, move along. Feel hurt and want to respond? Ignore it instead and spare the person from unnecessary debate who's mentally unwell and has barely any energy left.

I assume you believe that everyone but OP should take your advice. I'm mentally unwell too & I didn't enjoy being insulted by her for no good reason.

 

[FuneralCry]

Yes, it really is sad how this website is not comforting anymore. All that I have ever done is been nice to people on here. I have tried to understand what others are going through and there is only so much I can say and it is kinda offensive to say that is the same as pro life platitudes, but I guess we all have our own opinion. It is a shame that recently people criticise those being nice to others. I saw it yesterday as well. 'Platitudes' are better than trolling or insulting. I think I would prefer 'platitudes' to being told that I am rude and stubborn, personally.

It's beyond me why none of these people ever get the slightest recognition or thanks from her,

I have literally replied to so many threads on here, wishing others the best. If that is not recognition I don't know what is.

Well, I know what it is & I'd never tell anyone, OP included, that their pain isn't real/serious. That's loathsome.



OP has every right to express her views in as many posts as she wants, but she doesn't get to call those of us who choose to live despite the fact that life can be horrible delusional. I never called her delusional, btw. It's undeniable that she's very kind most of the time, but she isn't as saintly as you need to believe. Pro-choice angels don't accuse people whose only sin is that they don't want to pretend that everyone's life is only suffering of being invalidating pro-lifers. Repeatedly refusing to apologize for doing so is stubborn & rude. She's not the only person who has feelings. I'm sorry every moment of her life is pure agony & I would never dream of trivializing her pain.

@Dot What OP has done is definitely not dissimilar to what @atari did when he pissed people off by insisting that they all admit they are victims. It wouldn't kill her to apologize, especially since she actually wrote that she is the kindest person on this forum & that she has never done anything wrong (in her entire life? lol).

The thread, people who want to live must be delusional, is a venting thread. It was not meant to insult anyone, it is literally just my views. I do not understand why you hate me so much and why you make a big deal about a harmless venting thread written by a suicidal person which many people liked. I do not go around actually insulting people and I am not this awful person you are making me out to be. I was just venting. Why should I have to apologise for simply venting. I have made so many similar posts in the past and no one said anything then. Life is only suffering to me and that is my views. No one else has to agree and if others want to enjoy life then I am not stopping them.
This is why the forum is not comforting.

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I think I understand what you are saying and thanks. And if anyone says anything horrible to you about your writing then just ignore them. I wish you the best.

 

[FuneralCry]

i agree @FuneralCry . You posted your opinion on something on another thread. And a poster keeps imo harrasing you repeating the same thing which imo is not accurate anyway what you said and put the poster whom you don't agree wih on ignore.. The worst part is they keep repeating the same thing. if you don't agree say it once and ignore move on. Yes it's ok to disagree but to keep arguing and saying that the other has no right to say such things and imo twisting what happened etc. and then others that don't like what they think you said also then join in and it turns into a fighting or flame war thread.

There is no need to ignore anything. They can say what they want, and hate me as much as they like, I do not care. If people say things like that, then I feel a need to defend myself. I did not mind writing that post. This is what the thread is about after all. I have done nothing wrong.

 

[Shu]

I wanna die

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

There is no need to ignore anything. They can say what they want, and hate me as much as they like, I do not care. If people say things like that, then I feel a need to defend myself. I did not mind writing that post. This is what the thread is about after all. I have done nothing wrong.

i edited the post. this is more of what i meant to say. Have insomnia so my mind/brain is really off today.

i agree @FuneralCry . You posted your opinion on something on another thread. And a poster keeps imo harrasing you repeating the same thing which imo is not accurate anyway compared to what you actually said . The worst part is they keep repeating the same thing. Yes you have a right to reply if someone posts to you or about you and of course if its a lie. It's just that i would use the ignore button because of the danger of getting banned for arguing which i think is their ultimate goal to get you banned. It's like if i'm standing in line and someone pushes me and then i retaliate and the police passes by then he could arrest us both. so it's a tricky situation. i would just do it like that.but you certainly have a right to handle things your way.

if you (i'm talking in general not at you @FuneralCry) if anyone doesn't agree say it once and ignore move on. Yes it's ok to disagree but to keep arguing and saying that the other has no right to say such things and imo twisting what happened etc. and then others that don't like what they think you said also then join in and it turns into a fighting or flame war thread. The ignore button works great. Why fight and make a suicidal depressed person feel worse ?

i am in absolute hell not because of this thread but other things outside of SS. But i couldn't take more piled on top of me.

 

[motel rooms]

I do not understand why you hate me so much

I don't hate you, I just disagree with you... I don't understand why it's so hard for you to realize that not everyone who doesn't kiss your butt hates you.

Enjoy pretending you're oppressed & unwanted on a forum where every post you make gets a hundred likes, hugs & hearts. I wish you the best...

 

[GentleJerk]

I have literally replied to so many threads on here, wishing others the best. If that is not recognition I don't know what is.

Out of the 18 posts on this thread supporting, complementing, and defending you by the time you wrote this- you had not responded or even reacted to a single one. You never do.

The first reply you felt the need to make on this thread was to defend your definition of "pro-lifer". You have so many supporters here despite the fact that none of them will receive a thanks or even so much as a thumbs up, honestly you should be grateful.

PS nobody here has ever once said that they hate you or wish that you would leave the forum.

 

[Lullaby]

 

[motel rooms]

The worst part is they keep repeating the same thing.

Yeah, don't you just hate it when people repeat themselves? If only I could be more like OP...

Yes you have a right to reply if someone posts to you or about you and of course if its a lie. It's just that i would use the ignore button because of the danger of getting banned for arguing which i think is their ultimate goal to get you banned.

 

[diyCTB]

I do not understand why you hate me so much and why you make a big deal about a harmless venting thread written by a suicidal person which many people liked. I do not go around actually insulting people and I am not this awful person you are making me out to be. I was just venting. Why should I have to apologise for simply venting.

Just so you know, from my experience of attempting to keep conversations civil with @motel rooms and seeing their other responses I can tell you that this person is an obnoxious troll who enjoys diving into drama. I think he derives pleasure from riling people up and ignores parts from responses he doesn't agree with and ends them with mocking as you can see they did in their response to me (and not once). Very manipulative if you ask me and how they didn't receive much heat from others to readjust their behavior is a question.

Frankly that gives me impression of immature person who doesn't care about others despite saying otherwise. I don't understand how being mentally unwell as that person claims to be still finds energy for their tricks. To me it feels inauthentic and that they are here not for support but to exhaust vulnerable people and push people off from speaking up their minds.

If you ask me, unless they readjust the way they conduct themselves here they are better off to participate on another suicide forum run by anti-choice people to pester members who are doing mentally better than people here. He is on my list of blocked members but apparently he can't resist to check every blocked comment and interject his 2cents instead of moving on.

Just out of respect for you I will stop replying here. I have spent more time than a normal person would writing this because it is hard for me to focus, think straight and put my thoughts in order. This person is not worth nor my, nor your time. You are right that this place is not as it used to be 3-4 years before.
@GentleJerk Just leave it. Do something else. Please.

 

[befree]

Do you know another site where you can communicate so freely ? And do you know another site where you get so much help from people from all over the world ? I don´t.

 

[°Celsuis_Caesar]

I don't have much to say, but to say Thank you to replying on everyone's post and mine as well even if we have 0 comments, So thank you for being there for all of us,

Cheers,

-Caesar

 

[GentleJerk]

@GentleJerk Just leave it. Do something else. Please.

 

[motel rooms]

View attachment 92859

Yeah, you're right... In my defense, I'm only beating a dead horse because I'm desperately trying not to start spanking my monkey. No offense, @GentleJerk

 

[Symbiote]

Yeah, you're right... In my defense, I'm only beating a dead horse because I'm desperately trying not to start spanking my monkey. No offense, @GentleJerk

Now you'll have more time to beat your meat instead of being bored online and harassing people all day. Good luck in your recovery motel rooms.