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YourNeighbor

Arcanist
Jul 22, 2021
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Now you'll have more time to beat your meat instead of being bored online and harassing people all day. Good luck in your recovery motel rooms.
Did you ban @motel rooms?
 
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whatevs

whatevs

Mining for copium in the weirdest places.
Jan 15, 2022
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I wish you the best in whatever happens, motel rooms. Hehehe.

Those that have a speck of perception know you were with one foot out of the door already, and you were going to leave by your own volition either way.

One of the cool kids on the block has left. Bringer of tasty drama, somewhat bitchy, often funny. Press F to pay respects.
 
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needforvoid_

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Apr 18, 2022
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If so, that's such bullshit. He didn't say anything offensive, this is a forum, if you post something you can expect all kinds of responses, including criticism. Automatically not agreeing with everything someone says =/= I hate you. AND there's an ignore option. Seriously, such snowflakes. Good luck motel ✌
Disa fucking ppointing.
 
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24601

I can't do this anymore
Apr 9, 2022
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Skimmed through the posts. Agree with most things chinaski said even though this site means the world to me.
 
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whatevs

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If so, that's such bullshit. He didn't say anything offensive, this is a forum, if you post something you can expect all kinds of responses, including criticism. Automatically not agreeing with everything someone says =/= I hate you. AND there's an ignore option. Seriously, such snowflakes. Good luck motel ✌
Disa fucking ppointing.
I think he knew coming to this thread would mean getting banned. The OP made the thread basically because of an earlier exchange with him and the reasonable thing would've been to leave her be. He wanted to get kicked out subconsciously or whatever.
 
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Pain In The Ass

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Feb 10, 2022
638
I wish you the best in whatever happens, motel rooms. Hehehe.

Those that have a speck of perception know you were with one foot out of the door already, and you were going to leave by your own volition either way.

One of the cool kids on the block has left. Bringer of tasty drama, somewhat bitchy, often funny. Press F to pay respects.
whyd he get banned? i liked arguing with him!
 
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thedaywillcome

I will leave soon
Apr 2, 2022
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I hope I can leave this life by suicide. Because its very painful for me.
 
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whatevs

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whyd he get banned? i liked arguing with him!
He actually was a harasser, I'm sad to declare. @Mixolydian knows what I'm talking about, and probably others. A guy I personally liked but that couldn't control himself and as seen in this thread threw himself constantly towards people that didn't want the interaction.

I have met people that I really fancy or click with in this forum and I wouldn't spoil that when I can put the people that I don't click with on ignore. But with moderation, you can argue too.
 
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Dec 15, 2021
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If so, that's such bullshit. He didn't say anything offensive, this is a forum, if you post something you can expect all kinds of responses, including criticism. Automatically not agreeing with everything someone says =/= I hate you. AND there's an ignore option. Seriously, such snowflakes. Good luck motel ✌
Disa fucking ppointing.
Honestly, I kinda agree with this. I don't think he should have been harassing OP because of their worldview, but to ban him is kinda a stretch to me. I don't know to be honest, but he seemed to be projecting a bit. I genuinely hope he is able to recover.
 
needforvoid_

needforvoid_

Member
Apr 18, 2022
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I think he knew coming to this thread would mean getting banned. The OP made the thread basically because of an earlier exchange with him and the reasonable thing would've been to leave her be. He wanted to get kicked out subconsciously or whatever.
Perhaps, perhaps not. She equally could've ignored him if she was bothered. It's not her who banned him, just saying that it's an option we all have, there's no need to ban someone because they stir things up. I thought this site was 18+.
 
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Symbiote

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Oct 12, 2020
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Motel rooms was banned for harassment and even after a multitude of warnings from multiple moderators to refrain from said activity. He still took it upon himself to make his opinions be heard no matter how detrimental the conversation would be to anyone around. It's a fruitless conversation that has no ground to gain other than to peacock his own ego to others. Also, he has said before that he's on the path to recovery, didn't care if he was banned and even asked for it, and was also on the cusp of being banned anyways due to warning points given in a 3 month period. I only obliged his request and he can appeal his ban if he wishes. You can disagree or agree on opinions, say what needs to be said and learn to agree or disagree and move on. When a person hounds that user everywhere they go to refute an opinion that they cant be respectful on, then that constitutes as harassment.
 
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Pain In The Ass

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Feb 10, 2022
638
He actually was a harasser, I'm sad to declare. @Mixolydian knows what I'm talking about, and probably others. A guy I personally liked but that couldn't control himself and as seen in this thread threw himself constantly towards people that didn't want the interaction.

I have met people that I really fancy or click with in this forum and I wouldn't spoil that when I can put the people that I don't click with on ignore. But with moderation, you can argue too.
I knew he liked confrontation to the point of causing arguments for fun, but I'm guilty of that too somewhat - I got a warning the other day!

I objected to an incel using the term currycel and claiming everyone stares at his crotch! I didn't realise he was mentally ill.

I like @FuneralCry, I always interpret her views of life as her own, and not a claim of objective truth about everyone's lives
 
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needforvoid_

Member
Apr 18, 2022
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This is the last thing I'll say.
If I recall well, this was approximately how it went: -you're delusional>that's offensive to me-you're a delusional pro-lifer who hates me>no, you're just offending me. Ban...
I'm confused.
Everything you've said are assumptions, you as a mod should be objective and not decide to ban someone because you think they'd like that.
I'm mad, but I'll chill in a bit.
 
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Chinaski

Chinaski

Arthur Scargill appreciator
Sep 1, 2018
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I wish you the best in whatever happens, motel rooms. Hehehe.

Those that have a speck of perception know you were with one foot out of the door already, and you were going to leave by your own volition either way.

One of the cool kids on the block has left. Bringer of tasty drama, somewhat bitchy, often funny. Press F to pay respects.
This is a weird post for the mod to fav given it is later acknowledged by the same mod that he was a harrasser, motel rooms isn't here to exercise a right to reply so I'll refrain from giving a further opinion on him as a personality but it's clear staff knew this man was a harrasser for some time and his penchant for barging into dms uninvited was made publicly known, it's pretty uncouth for staff to be applauding the sentiment that he went out in some kind of blaze of glory tbh.
 
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Symbiote

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Oct 12, 2020
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This is the last thing I'll say.
If I recall well, this was approximately how it went: -you're delusional>that's offensive to me-you're a delusional pro-lifer who hates me>no, you're just offending me. Ban...
I'm confused.
Everything you've said are assumptions, you as a mod should be objective and not decide to ban someone because you think they'd like that.
I'm mad, but I'll chill in a bit.
I see things from a bigger perspective rather than the single notion of what went on this thread before making a decision.
 
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whatevs

whatevs

Mining for copium in the weirdest places.
Jan 15, 2022
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This is the last thing I'll say.
If I recall well, this was approximately how it went: -you're delusional>that's offensive to me-you're a delusional pro-lifer who hates me>no, you're just offending me. Ban...
I'm confused.
Everything you've said are assumptions, you as a mod should be objective and not decide to ban someone because you think they'd like that.
I'm mad, but I'll chill in a bit.
He has harassed other people, read better what has been written. Honestly I really liked him but do you want to be in a forum where there are no rules? At least Symbiote does something, locks threads etc. It was the right call, he had been warned many times and shall I remind you that he actually left the forum some months ago?
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
3,414
He has harassed other people, read better what has been written. Honestly I really liked him but do you want to be in a forum where there are no rules? At least Symbiote does something, locks threads etc. It was the right call, he had been warned many times and shall I remind you that he actually left the forum some months ago?
i agree it was the right call . motelrooms has harrassed other people. imo he would have kept going never stopped kept hounding @FuneralCry . I joined this site for methods and maybe to validate some of the thoughts i had that can't be said anywhere else. To gain knowledge on methods and to learn how to defeat si etc. Is this site about one user dominating and then harrassing any other member who dares disagree in the tiniest amount? It's ironic that both @FuneralCry and Motel Rooms held the exact same views on the afterlife that i do that there is no afterlife no reincarnation. They agreed on a lot more than they realized. But she disagreed on one thing and then the harrassment was on imo.

imo this thread was a battle for the right to question the constant mantra we hear "Life is Good and Death is bad".
This is the one website out of billions where we are allowed to say " Life is bad" . but some posters on here i think want it to be like reddit,twitter, irl, work everywhere , youtube , facebook where you always have to say "Life is good" or else you are saying something monstrous

Long live Sanctioned suicide the only place in the world were you can say Life is bad
 
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YourNeighbor

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Jul 22, 2021
423
I see things from a bigger perspective rather than the single notion of what went on this thread before making a decision.
The star chamber strikes again. Did @motel rooms do something here that was ban-worthy, or did the fact that he openly disagreed with OP here render ban-worthy past behavior that wasn't otherwise sanctioned?

If the former, I'm at a loss as to what he wrote that warrants a ban that 75% of users here are not liable for as well. If the latter, that seems like an extremely arbitrary use of modnipotence. Especially given all the hateful crap that regularly is allowed on this forum, and regularly features prominently even on threads. Including cryptic suicide encouragement.

Not saying I agreed with everything/much that @motel rooms wrote generally, but when @motel rooms got into spats it was not one sided, as far as I could tell. In this thread, I fail to see anything objectionable.
 
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Niko66

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Dec 6, 2021
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Stubborn to a fault and had a flair for drama but I'd have been willing to bet a simple acknowledgment that calling people delusional for having a different view can be offensive would have all but ended this drama. Perhaps I don't know enough "SaSu lore" to have the full picture, but it seems to me it was the loudness and not the content. There's far more insidious and "civilized" yet more malicious invalidating, belittling and condescension of others that goes on regularly around here.
 
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YourNeighbor

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Jul 22, 2021
423
Stubborn to a fault and had a flair for drama but I'd have been willing to bet a simple acknowledgment that calling people delusional for having a different view can be offensive would have all but ended this drama.
The irony here is that "delusional" was not used first by m/r. OP called people who want to live delusional in another thread, and I responded that that was absurd for many reasons, and that she was more likely delusional as to the state of the world, based on what to me appeared to be statements largely detached from reality, i.e. delusional (a synopsis of the exchange). All this was in the context of discussing the merits of a thread, not tossing out insults. I don't think that @motel rooms ever used that phrase toward OP in an insulting manner (I could be wrong).

It seems like @motel rooms got a lot out of this place, for better or worse. One hopes he wasn't banned merely because he made some comments here that did not merely parrot the OP.
 
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OceanBlue

OceanBlue

Feminist
Jun 13, 2021
701
Motel finally got banned!!! Didn't expect that, but thank you so much and I hope it's for good. 🙏🙏🙏 Just came back after a while to find him harassing another kind user once again and got worried.

To the OP, I noticed your posts and I know you understand what's going on. ✨

To others - don't post anything in hopes to be noticed or thanked, the op does not owe you any likes and they are right to say they were supporting users by replying to threads. And sorry if you don't like to see this pointed out, but any kind of hope or happiness is a moment of delusion.
 
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Niko66

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Dec 6, 2021
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The irony here is that "delusional" was not used first by m/r. OP called people who want to live delusional in another thread, and I responded that that was absurd for many reasons, and that she was more likely delusional as to the state of the world, based on what to me appeared to be statements largely detached from reality, i.e. delusional (a synopsis of the exchange). All this was in the context of discussing the merits of a thread, not tossing out insults. I don't think that @motel rooms ever used that phrase toward OP in an insulting manner (I could be wrong).

It seems like @motel rooms got a lot out of this place, for better or worse. One hopes he wasn't banned merely because he made some comments here that did not merely parrot the OP.
Yup I got to see that much, that is what I meant with what I said, had the self appointed kindest member in this site just acknowledged at any point how in venting calling people who try/want to live as delusional could be offensive to other members this whole drama would have ended too, instead of making like 3 threads self victimizing, in this case it took two to Tango so it's not to say motel rooms didn't choose to keep pursuing the issue and stir things up, but I find the situation a bit laughable to be honest and certainly not ban worthy without the context of the rest of said "harrassments" of the past.
I am usually one the quickest ones to get riled up when people get into someone else's thread to attack them, but in this ocassion I thought it was honestly reasonable, if I read something such as "everyone under 30 who wants to CTB is a dimwit and just doesn't know better" I'd probably be offended too even if I wasn't specifically targetted. "Just a personal view" can be offensive and as innocent as OP plays, something which like most users in this forum I used to buy too, until I saw one of those threads and them chosing to double down with having done absolutely nothing wrong and failing to empathize enough to hand over a simple acknowledgment of how her words can affect others the same way other people's words affect them.

My first impression of motel rooms wasn't good, but reading further into their threads and comments I realized they were rather sardonic and loud, but not malicious, invalidating or unreasonable.
 
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OceanBlue

OceanBlue

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Jun 13, 2021
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Motel rooms was banned for harassment and even after a multitude of warnings from multiple moderators to refrain from said activity. He still took it upon himself to make his opinions be heard no matter how detrimental the conversation would be to anyone around. It's a fruitless conversation that has no ground to gain other than to peacock his own ego to others. Also, he has said before that he's on the path to recovery, didn't care if he was banned and even asked for it, and was also on the cusp of being banned anyways due to warning points given in a 3 month period. I only obliged his request and he can appeal his ban if he wishes. You can disagree or agree on opinions, say what needs to be said and learn to agree or disagree and move on. When a person hounds that user everywhere they go to refute an opinion that they cant be respectful on, then that constitutes as harassment.
Thank you and please do not unban him, a manipulative stalker who picks on kind users, follows them around - how he behaved and how it affected other users was not acceptable in the least, it shouldn't have been allowed to go on as long as it did.
 
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onlyanimalsaregood

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Al Cappella

Al Cappella

Are we there yet?
Feb 2, 2022
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Who are you calling a snow flake?
I'm going to guess that refers to the snapperazzi who, when venting, feel perfectly entitled to call entire segments of a population whatever they like, but as soon as any hint of an objection, or disagreement in terms of viewpoint appears, they get all foamy at the lips and cry how totally unfair it all is. You know, a double-standard.
 
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rationaltake

I'm rocking it - in another universe
Sep 28, 2021
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And sorry if you don't like to see this pointed out, but any kind of hope or happiness is a moment of delusion.
Maybe the Recovery section should be renamed the Delusional Lounge.
 
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OceanBlue

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Positivity bias is a real thing and there's no "recovering" from seeing too clearly.
 
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Al Cappella

Are we there yet?
Feb 2, 2022
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That is YOUR view on it. This is not the truth for everyone. I completely disagree with you on this. I love how people speak with such certainty about something as if it applies to everyone. If I were trying to recover, people who say things like this is who I would stay the farthest away from.
I'm telling you dude if I actually did want to recover I would not spend all my time on here and connect with majorityof the people on here. I could NEVER recover that way. Some of these folks will truly convince you that there's no purpose in life, life is completely meaningless, all people are terrible, the world is completely terrible, and there is no reason to be alive.
I need to stay out of it tho i'm just some loser degenerate and I'm only going to get chastised and criticized.
You're completely right. It's been my experience that people who engage in this type globalization are a) in a lot of pain b) avoiding accountability, which is really painful, because if the world is 100% shit, and anything positive is delusion—well then there's nothing I've done to bring me here, or can do to change things. I was like that. Took forever to get out. You can't argue with this sort of thing either, ever.
 
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What validates the title of this topic are all the members that felt the need to pull an "ackchually..." in this thread. Nothing in her other thread was actually controversial, she described her perspective on life and that's it. Life on this planet sucks, right? I don't think that's a terribly outragerous statement considering the nature of this forum. And she posted her thread in suicide discussion, marked as venting. I could understand some of the reaction if she posted that thread in the recovery subforum - that wouldn't be very appropiate. But she didn't.
And to give some context, posters in the suicide forum tend to have a more hopeless, kinda nihilistic, sometimes even a defeatist view on life due to their own experience in this world. There are members in this forum that had to endure a lot of emotional, mental or physical pain their entire life and it's what defines life for many of us and it certainly justifies that "black pilled" perspective in my opinion. My own life is a chain of traumatic events and it certainly shaped my view on life in a negative way. I was a very optimstic human for a very long time despite all my suffering, all the trauma I had to experience. I thought all of this was worth it. I had to be, right? My life couldn't just be wasted. We could make it... maybe someday in the future, this life would be worth living. But over the years I lost more and more of that hope and now I've reached a point where I look into this world and I see a literal nightmare. Darkness. A grotesque and abhorrent reality, as if I woke up from a beautiful dream. If there is a biblical hell, and I don't believe in that but if there was one, this is it. This life here is an existential nightmare for me and I guess there are people out there that share this sentiment. You don't have to agree with it and maybe you might have a hard time doing so if your entire life wasn't literally defined by trauma but I'll never understand the desire to fight each other in this forum over some basic philosophic concepts. Many of us are anti-natalists here because it's very difficult for us to believe that life is inherently good with all the suffering that's going on in the world, every single day. It's inherent to nature, inherent to the universe. I see birds eating worms, a group of wild dogs tearing apart a pregnant impala, humans killing each other over ressources and our own sun will swallow the earth someday. There is no meaning in any of that. Let's go even further, the entire universe will be devoid of all life billions of years into the future, every single sun will have turned into a black hole, space will be dark and cold and forever. I don't want to be a part of this? That sounds like a dystopia. Anti-natalists try to redude birth because we consider suffering as an inherent part of life, that includes the human experience that's cursed with the conscious awareness to understand all that suffering that's happening on a very fundamental level.
I don't agree with the premise of the title but I see why someone would think the forum was more comforting a while ago if they have to justify their experience and outlook on life persistently. When I found this forum we were a small community that just understood each other, like "yeah, I feel your pain". That was it.

TL;DR the celebration of life that's happening in our society feels sincerely alien for some people and it's okay to say that. I think that's one of the many reasons why this forum is so important, to give people a platform who have a very different perspective to life and death in general. The "pro-life" bias is programmed into every aspect of our society, I guess this forum out of all communities online is one of the few places to disagree with that.
 
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