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- Dec 16, 2021
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I read an article that the drowning effect occurs because of the injection pushing a lot of drugs into the system and thereby damaging the lungs. I dont think it happens when you drink N.
Article here:
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according to doctors who spoke to NPR — and others who have testified in federal court — inmates develop pulmonary edema during lethal injection for a different reason: Extremely high doses of drugs, given quickly, are directly damaging the delicate architecture of the lungs. It's a phenomenon often seen in fatal heroin overdoses.
"In the '70s it was a very common way for a drug addict to just die after self-injecting heroin," says Philippe Camus, a pulmonologist in Dijon, France.
Camus has spent decades studying and compiling the various ways that drugs can negatively affect the lungs. He says that when a high dose of drugs is rapidly injected into the body, it pushes a concentrated "front" through the bloodstream. Doses vary slightly by states, but many inmates receive 500 milligrams of midazolam; for comparison, in a hospital setting patients may receive 1 or 2 milligrams.
"The quicker the injection, the denser the front, and the higher the risk of causing damage," Camus says.
Specifically, that concentrated front of drugs damages the thin barrier between blood vessels and air sacs in the lungs. Jeffrey Sippel, a pulmonologist who reviewed autopsies obtained by NPR, likens this phenomenon to a river flooding its banks.
"Water is supposed to be in the river, and the banks are supposed to be dry," he says. In this case, the dry banks are the lungs' air sacs, and the river is a network of capillaries; in healthy lungs, they are separated by a thin membrane. "When there is pulmonary edema, that normal relationship is awry. There's water on the banks where it doesn't belong."
When that membrane breaks, fluid from the capillaries enters the air sacs, impeding one's ability to breathe.
"It would be a feeling of drowning, a feeling of suffocation — a feeling of panic, imminent doom," says Sippel."
Article here:
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according to doctors who spoke to NPR — and others who have testified in federal court — inmates develop pulmonary edema during lethal injection for a different reason: Extremely high doses of drugs, given quickly, are directly damaging the delicate architecture of the lungs. It's a phenomenon often seen in fatal heroin overdoses.
"In the '70s it was a very common way for a drug addict to just die after self-injecting heroin," says Philippe Camus, a pulmonologist in Dijon, France.
Camus has spent decades studying and compiling the various ways that drugs can negatively affect the lungs. He says that when a high dose of drugs is rapidly injected into the body, it pushes a concentrated "front" through the bloodstream. Doses vary slightly by states, but many inmates receive 500 milligrams of midazolam; for comparison, in a hospital setting patients may receive 1 or 2 milligrams.
"The quicker the injection, the denser the front, and the higher the risk of causing damage," Camus says.
Specifically, that concentrated front of drugs damages the thin barrier between blood vessels and air sacs in the lungs. Jeffrey Sippel, a pulmonologist who reviewed autopsies obtained by NPR, likens this phenomenon to a river flooding its banks.
"Water is supposed to be in the river, and the banks are supposed to be dry," he says. In this case, the dry banks are the lungs' air sacs, and the river is a network of capillaries; in healthy lungs, they are separated by a thin membrane. "When there is pulmonary edema, that normal relationship is awry. There's water on the banks where it doesn't belong."
When that membrane breaks, fluid from the capillaries enters the air sacs, impeding one's ability to breathe.
"It would be a feeling of drowning, a feeling of suffocation — a feeling of panic, imminent doom," says Sippel."
I didn't think someone would take the concept of acceptance so personally.
