Method Is N REALLY painless?

[MelodyCymbal]

Really? Can you explain this please?

Really? Can you explain this please?

Sterile is two bottles and the non-sterile (much more concentrated) is one bottle.

I know, I'm just really paranoid because of how easily I throw up. It is possible that I am mixing it up; but I think I read it on the forum here. The idea was that if you throw up some but not all of the N, you just risk having too little in your system and waking up before you can die of dehydration (maybe it was fear mongering, who knows) so it would be best to just get as much of the N out as possible and try again. I will try to find the post and/or the PPH page if it's in there. If I find the post, watch it be a new member who said it...

Stevia is already in my basket, that's what another user here used and I trust them.

It's in ch. 7 "Supplemental Drugs" "vomiting & antiemetics" of the 2023 ppeh. They're talking about lethal substances in general so this could apply to N.

Is one bottle going to be enough or one has to purchase 2 bottles and drink them altogether?

The PPH has increased the recommended dosage for oral administration of N from 6 gms to > 10 gms (2023 edition). The sterile bottles of vet N are usu. 100 ml and contain 6.5 gm of N, so you'd need two bottles.

 

[MelodyCymbal]

Look, from everything I've read the second bottle was only included to speed up the time to die, not because one bottle wasn't actually working. From what I understand the recommendation in PPH has been, and still is from memory, for one bottle. The second bottle got added not because people weren't dying from one, but because some people were taking several hours to die and that was traumatic for the family who attended the assisted suicide. Keep in mind the safety sheet says 36mg/kg is the minimum lethal dose. So if you're 85kg your minimum lethal dose is about 3g. One bottle is 6g. That's double that. And also, I never understand why people are not taking their N and combining it with a plastic bag over their heads or drowning to ensure death if they're that scared of failure. Sorry I'm not talking about you specifically but people on here in general. Everyone is suspicious of one bottle amount but even one bottle will knock you out cold for a loooong time. So why not just ensure you die by combining it with some sort of asphyxiation which you won't feel? Isn't that the logical solution if people are so afraid they'll just go into a coma instead of dying? Bag over head and you're dead in 20 minutes for sure.

The 2023 edition of PPH recommends two bottles.

 

[Interloper]

The 2023 edition of PPH recommends two bottles.

You have the 2023 pph? Can you screenshot the page where they changed their recommendation?

 

[MelodyCymbal]

You have the 2023 pph? Can you screenshot the page where they changed their recommendation?

Hope this helps

 

[Interloper]

Hope this helps

This is identical to the essentials page that's already in the 2022 edition, not the normal pph where he goes into detail on how 1 bottle (6.5g) will suffice for the vast majority of people. Unless he copied that page to the normal pph 2023 revision and removed the "a lethal dose of nembutal" part.

 

[Ernest1964]

Oh my god. Ok. I don't even know how to explain this anymore.
Does breathing equal consciousness?? I was under anesthetic for a procedure and afterwards they told me my heart rate dropped and my breathing slowed a lot. Guess what. I didn't feel any of it BECAUSE I WAS UNCONSCIOUS!!
If you're unconscious, which is what N is supposed to do very quickly you're not going to feel anything even if you're still breathing. Someone could be strangling you or hang you upside down by your toes and you wouldn't know because your brain is switched off. So what does it matter if they were still breathing?

Ta555 - THAT makes a lot of sense.

 

[Anzhe]

I heard people saying that N is painless, but I never saw any concrete evidence or stats. I know it is tehnically an anesthesia drug, but i can't help but think that it'll hurt before it knocks me out, or cause uncomfortable side effects. I'm scared. I just want a painless way out.

Pentobarbital C11H18N2O3 (Nembutal)
Phenobarbital C12H12N2O3

these are barbiturates almost identical in mechanism of action on the body. I can tell you that you will just fall asleep and that's all - no any discomfort. I take phenobarbital once a week at 40 or maximum 100 mg. It is better to grind the tablets in a coffee grinder and dissolve in water if we are talking about tablets. And be sure to pre-take an antiemetic such as domperidone.

I plan to use a combined method - barbiturates and nitrogen - to increase my chances of success. I hope I can get some opiates too - then I'll add that to my deadly cocktail))