Method Exit bag and inert gas megathread

[AllAloneAndSad]

I see. What about tachycardia?

Yes but that is why I wanted to try it to see what it was like. Not a big issue. I plan to zip tie my hands so that if SI kicks in, I can't take the bag off.

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

Yes but that is why I wanted to try it to see what it was like. Not a big issue. I plan to zip tie my hands so that if SI kicks in, I can't take the bag off.

Do you know what was your heartbeat per minute?

 

[AllAloneAndSad]

Do you know what was your heartbeat per minute?

No. I guess I could have looked but I was more concerned with the oxygen level going down. For me, tachycardia is not an issue and since I was trying to push the limit to test, it could have been the process as well.

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

No. I guess I could have looked but I was more concerned with the oxygen level going down. For me, tachycardia is not an issue and since I was trying to push the limit to test, it could have been the process as well.

Only if it's ok with you: do you have it recorded in a health app from a smart wearable?

 

[AllAloneAndSad]

No....It is one that you put on your finger and it states the oxygen and the heartbeat per minute.

 

[Intoxicated]

It does take 6+ breaths to get the oxygen levels to 47%...not 2.

Have you ever tried to pass out from a single deep inhale of the gas followed by breath holding? Also I doubt that 47% is the real value, you likely wouldn't be able to read it after reaching that level.

 

[AllAloneAndSad]

Have you ever tried to pass out from a single deep inhale of the gas followed by breath holding? Also I doubt that 47% is the real value, you likely wouldn't be able to read it after reaching that level.

I have not tried that. That is what it read. I don't know what else to tell you but it was not for a long time.

"If your blood has low levels of oxygen, it can't deliver enough oxygen to your organs and tissues that need it to keep working (hypoxia). This can damage your heart or brain if it persists over time (for instance, with nocturnal hypoxemia caused by sleep apnea). Acute cases of hypoxemia can be fatal."

Have you ever tried to pass out from a single deep inhale of the gas followed by breath holding? Also I doubt that 47% is the real value, you likely wouldn't be able to read it after reaching that level.

"
The lowest oxygen level before death is generally considered to be below 55%, although the specific level can vary depending on factors like age, health, and the rate of oxygen decline. At an oxygen level of 10%, survival may be limited to minutes or seconds.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Sustained levels below 80-85% are life-threatening: and require immediate medical attention.
• Below 85%: Serious symptoms of hypoxia (low blood oxygen) can occur, posing a risk of serious injury or death.
• Below 65%: Mental impairment may occur.
• Below 55%: Consciousness loss and potential death.
• At 10%: Survival may be limited to minutes or seconds."

 

[outrider567]

Have you ever tried to pass out from a single deep inhale of the gas followed by breath holding? Also I doubt that 47% is the real value, you likely wouldn't be able to read it after reaching that level.

not true, i got my O2 level down to 40, no problems, felt fine, 25 is when you pass out

 

[Intoxicated]

• Below 55%: Consciousness loss and potential death.

47% is below that value. Considering that dimness of vision occurs before LOC, and pulse oximeters have some lag when displaying the measurement results, I think that my doubts are justified.

not true, i got my O2 level down to 40, no problems, felt fine

How can you be sure that the displayed value was correct? Pulse oximeters often indicate some bullshit numbers.

 

[AllAloneAndSad]

47% is below that value. Considering that dimness of vision occurs before LOC, and pulse oximeters have some lag when displaying the measurement results, I think that my doubts are justified.


How can you be sure that the displayed value was correct? Pulse oximeters often indicate some bullshit numbers.

Then I cannot be sure.

 

[outrider567]

47% is below that value. Considering that dimness of vision occurs before LOC, and pulse oximeters have some lag when displaying the measurement results, I think that my doubts are justified.


How can you be sure that the displayed value was correct? Pulse oximeters often indicate some bullshit numbers.

You're the one who's full of bullshit

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

Then I cannot be sure.

Don't be tricked. He's gaslighting you. Trust your experience. Others have reported similar to you. And we have a report of going unconscious. Ignore the fucking idiot.

You're the one who's full of bullshit

Indeed. @Intoxicated is full of bullshit

 

[EmptyBottle]

47% is below that value. Considering that dimness of vision occurs before LOC, and pulse oximeters have some lag when displaying the measurement results, I think that my doubts are justified.


How can you be sure that the displayed value was correct? Pulse oximeters often indicate some bullshit numbers.

Not often, unless the pulse oximeter is bought on wish or from some unreliable seller

 

[Intoxicated]

Not often, unless the pulse oximeter is bought on wish or from some unreliable seller

Even well-calibrated devices may have significant biases when measuring SpO2 below 60 - 70%. Cheap OTC pulse oximiters may be especially imprecise at low saturation levels.

https://i.sanctioned-suicide.net/images/2025/04/225337_lipnick2016.pdf

Here a user reported the onset of symptoms when the measured SpO2 dropped to 75%, that looks more realistic.

It's possible to remain semi-conscious for a few seconds having SaO2 levels between 35% and 45% under specific conditions - if you hyperventilate with nitrogen (or other similar asphyxiant), causing very rapid drop of blood oxygen saturation as indicated in Fig.4 here

https://i.sanctioned-suicide.net/images/2025/04/224188_ernsting1963.pdf

This source

https://www.bjanaesthesia.org/article/S0007-0912(17)45696-0/pdf

suggests that "In anoxia induced more gradually, unconsciousness occurs when the arterial haemoglobin oxygen saturation reaches 60-65 per cent with the PaO2 being about 35 mm Hg."

After reaching 50% SaO2 or below in the fast scenario, dimness of vision and clouding of consciousness would likely be imminent and you'd notice them.

You're the one who's full of bullshit

Don't be tricked. He's gaslighting you. Trust your experience. Others have reported similar to you. And we have a report of going unconscious. Ignore the fucking idiot.

Indeed. @Intoxicated is full of bullshit

In order to make such claims / accusations, you have to catch me on systematic rough inaccuracies, with proofs.

25 is when you pass out

Can you demonstrate any trustworthy studies or articles in support of that (besides your garage experiments with an oximiter)?

 

[EmptyBottle]

Even well-calibrated devices may have significant biases when measuring SpO2 below 60 - 70%. Cheap OTC pulse oximiters may be especially imprecise at low saturation levels.

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Here a user reported the onset of symptoms when the measured SpO2 dropped to 75%, that looks more realistic.

It's possible to remain semi-conscious for a few seconds having SaO2 levels between 35% and 45% under specific conditions - if you hyperventilate with nitrogen (or other similar asphyxiant), causing very rapid drop of blood oxygen saturation as indicated in Fig.4 here

https://i.sanctioned-suicide.net/images/2025/04/224188_ernsting1963.pdf

This source

https://www.bjanaesthesia.org/article/S0007-0912(17)45696-0/pdf

suggests that "In anoxia induced more gradually, unconsciousness occurs when the arterial haemoglobin oxygen saturation reaches 60-65 per cent with the PaO2 being about 35 mm Hg."

After reaching 50% SaO2 or below in the fast scenario, dimness of vision and clouding of consciousness would likely be imminent and you'd notice them.



In order to make such claims / accusations, you have to catch me on systematic rough inaccuracies, with proofs.


Can you demonstrate any trustworthy studies or articles in support of that (besides your garage experiments with an oximiter)?

Ohh yes, uncalibrated equipment *cannot* be guaranteed to be accurate... especially if it is cheap.
I don't understand why someone falsely accused you of being misleading, vs ask deeper questions to clarify the point being made.

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

Can you demonstrate any trustworthy studies or articles in support of that (besides your garage experiments with an oximiter)?

There are reports from users on this forum? If you want to troll find a different forum. The cheap oxymeters are good enough for the purpose of testing the techniques presented on this forum. You won't be conscious to evaluate your oxygen level when it drops below 25%.

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Folks, I'm trying to get a rubber hose (needs to be rubber because of my hose cutter that I've already bought, don't want to buy another). I found one titled: "Rubber Gas Butane/Propane LPG Hose Pipe 8mm Internal bore with 2 Clips - Crafted from Premium-Quality Rubber Materials, High Pressure Gas Hose for Caravan, Camping, BBQ. (8mm X 3m)" (see attached picture). Will it work connecting it to the flow meter barb and the double hose barb or I need to get one specifically for argon/nitrogen?

 

[martinso67]

I did test the nitrogen setup with a 200bar regulator suited to the nitrogen cylinder. I am Reaching only 90% of the ideal 200bar, as indicated by the regulator pressure display.
But the problem is its very loud, when I turn on the valve of the gas cylinder fully Is that ok or is there a problem with the connection? Did a leak test, did not do bubbles. Only one small and it went away.

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

I did test the nitrogen setup with a 200bar regulator suited to the nitrogen cylinder. I am Reaching only 90% of the ideal 200bar, as indicated by the regulator pressure display.
But the problem is its very loud, when I turn on the valve of the gas cylinder fully Is that ok or is there a problem with the connection? Did a leak test, did not do bubbles. Only one small and it went away.

Never turned on the gas despite having had a chance during my first attempt some years ago. Do you've flow reading on your regulator, though?

 

[martinso67]

Yes, i have flowmeter.

Never turned on the gas despite having had a chance during my first attempt some years ago. Do you've flow reading on your regulator, though?

,when I turn on the flow on or off. There is not really a chance in sound.
I found the problem: there is a leak. A did a much intense gas leak test on that gas cylinder- regulator connection and it showed bubbles :(

I did everything correctly, there is no damage on the O ring. I don't know what to do now??

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

Yes, i have flowmeter.

,when I turn on the flow on or off. There is not really a chance in sound.
I found the problem: there is a leak. A did a much intense gas leak test on that gas cylinder- regulator connection and it showed bubbles :(

I did everything correctly, there is no damage on the O ring. I don't know what to do now??

I see. Have you tighten it well enough with a wrench?

 

[martinso67]

I see. Have you tighten it well enough with a wrench?

Yes till it's firm. I did not use brute force though to not break anything as recommended. Thats why I was shocked to know that there is still a leck.

In all the things or factors I would fail. Only this could fail. I did turn the gas cylinder with the leak problem for 30 seconds.
I am afraid that I lost too much gas to make this method work. Also I saw that regulator should not be able be rotated.

Should I instead go with SN. Like when I failed this, will I fail the other alternative. Will I fail again with SN as well, regardless if I follow the recommended SN protocol?

 

[zardofan]

Yes till it's firm. I did not use brute force though to not break anything as recommended. Thats why I was shocked to know that there is still a leck.

In all the things or factors I would fail. Only this could fail. I did turn the gas cylinder with the leak problem for 30 seconds.
I am afraid that I lost too much gas to make this method work. Also I saw that regulator should not be able be rotated.

Should I instead go with SN. Like when I failed this, will I fail the other alternative. Will I fail again with SN as well, regardless if I follow the recommended SN protocol?

Perhaps try some Teflon tape? It might help it seal better? I used the wrench to make it really tight, this may be the same as what you mean by firm. I cannot loosen it with my fingers and would need the wrench to take it off. You are right re not using extreme force. Maybe as a last ditch effort completely remove and reattach? Is the any chance the threads didn't catch right?

I completely understand where you are coming from re fear of failure. This is why I ditched the allegro hood and went back to the bag, I got freaked out at leaking at the connectors.

Are you in a place where you can get your bottle refilled by a local company?

There are reports from users on this forum? If you want to troll find a different forum. The cheap oxymeters are good enough for the purpose of testing the techniques presented on this forum. You won't be conscious to evaluate your oxygen level when it drops below 25%.

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Folks, I'm trying to get a rubber hose (needs to be rubber because of my hose cutter that I've already bought, don't want to buy another). I found one titled: "Rubber Gas Butane/Propane LPG Hose Pipe 8mm Internal bore with 2 Clips - Crafted from Premium-Quality Rubber Materials, High Pressure Gas Hose for Caravan, Camping, BBQ. (8mm X 3m)" (see attached picture). Will it work connecting it to the flow meter barb and the double hose barb or I need to get one specifically for argon/nitrogen?

Unsure if you are asking if your hose type needs to be for argon/nitrogen? If that's the question, no it doesn't, anything is fine, in fact you can use just vinyl or silicone tubing if you want, and just cut with scissors. As long as the ID of the hose matches the hose barb (8mm in this case). And I see this hose has clamps too. The regulator/flowmeter being set to ~15lpm is low enough that your hose won't blow apart from the force of the gas. And if I totally misunderstood, my apologies