Method Exit bag and inert gas megathread

[stardust_11]

hmm i've heard they only sell toasters to the most experienced professionals but this could this be the new meta. someone contact Philip Nitschke asap

Very funny

 

[Waxeye6661]

I'm going to pray to the gods that a replacement pops up in time for me. I'm upset, I always miss things by just a little bit, It's a running theme in my life.
I'm not even in a big rush, I'm not CTB this week or anything, but a method is the kind of thing you want to have on hand for when the time does come, not scrambling around last second trying to make it work, stressed tf out.

yeah damn shame, they had it all.

 

[GasMonkey]

Yeah, both the EEBD and SCBA kits were very popular, they went out of stock several times.

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

yeah damn shame, they had it all.
View attachment 115895

Christ I'm fucking jealous of everyone who got theirs before EM got shut down.

 

[Eskalacianorka]

Russian?

Yesss russian

American escMode CGA-580 flow regulator

Thats it but i guess i need european version of it, do you remember how its called?
@GasMonkey Can i pm you?

 

[outrider567]

Yesss russian

Thats it but i guess i need european version of it, do you remember how its called?
@GasMonkey Can i pm you?

I think you need 10 or 20 posts before you can PM

 

[Eskalacianorka]

I think you need 10 or 20 posts before you can PM

I already can do it, seems like 5 is enough

 

[GasMonkey]

Yesss russian

@𝕊m̆̈i͜͡𝖑£😊 is russian and he has an air-to-nitrogen adapter.

i need european version of it

Russia doesn't use the EU connection.
The EU connection is DIN477 #10 (W 24.32 × 1/14" RH).

 

[Eskalacianorka]

@𝕊m̆̈i͜͡𝖑£😊 is russian and he has an air-to-nitrogen adapter.


Russia doesn't use the EU connection.
The EU connection is DIN477 #10 (W 24.32 × 1/14" RH).

Im a little confused
The lung demand valve is attached to the SCBA mask, the LDV is attached to the regulator (lets say CGA-580), the regulator is attached to the nitrogen cylinder via air-to-nitrogen adapter, everything is correct right?
I cant figure out what the regulator is in this pic.....

 

[ztem]

I cant figure out what the regulator is in this pic

That's Drager SCBA air regulator with G 5/8 male thread for DIN477 NO.13 with G 5/8 female thread air cylinders
If you have 1000$ budget, buy Drager pas lite+fps 7000 Drager SCBA mask EPDM-M2-PC-EPDM(Part number:56200)P connector
(second-hand is cheaper)

DIN477 NO.10 with W 24.32 x 1/14 male thread
DIN477 NO.6 with W 21.8 x 1/14 male thread
BS341 N0.3 with G 5/8 female thread

For those 3 standards you need:
300 bar G 5/8 female to 200 bar W 24.32 x 1/14 female(internal/internal) adapter
300 bar G 5/8 female to 200 bar W 21.8 x 1/14" female(internal/internal) adapter
300 bar G 5/8 female to 200 bar G 5/8 male(internal/external)adapter

 

[GasMonkey]

PAS Lite+Mask+LDV

Why are you adding a LDV when that model of regulator already comes with an embedded LDV and pressure gauge? lol.

How GasMonkey made it to 1155 € is a mystery to me

▪ Pack with regulator (with embedded LDV) + mask: 945 € (from Spain)
▪ Air-to-nitrogen adapter: 57 € (from Germany)
▪ Nitrogen 4.0 cylinder: 153 € (from Poland)
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▪ Total: 1155 €

 

[Eskalacianorka]

Why are you adding a LDV when that model of regulator already comes with an embedded LDV and pressure gauge? lol.

I just realised it, my bad ahahhaa

 

[GasMonkey]

My friend Wunderkind was from Ukraine, he probably used the same air-to-nitrogen adapter as the Russians on his SCBA setup.

 

[ztem]

way better than the classic exit bag

CTB about 3 years ago.The guy was 17 years old. CTB with Just a very small garbage bag and tape.(Party balloon kit helium and tube)

Spoiler

which is better to choose SCBA or EEBD hood?

Vizzy CTB'd with 70$ EEBD and 12$ Argon regulator

 

[GasMonkey]

Yeah people have CTB'd with inert gas using extremely simple setups.

 

[ztem]

yeah damn shame, they had it all.
View attachment 115895

Escmode regulator kit instructions 9999$ !?

 

[GasMonkey]

I never understood the $9999 instructions thing. The instructions were always available in the website for everyone to see, including people who never purchased anything.​

 

[Waxeye6661]

I never understood the $9999 instructions thing. The instructions were always available in the website for everyone to see, including people who never purchased anything.​

It's a strange way of saying free, I've come across that before

 

[ztem]

How much was EM's profit~ from selling each kit(SCBA and EEBD)?
What was the actual cost of each kit for EM?

 

[Eskalacianorka]

How much was EM's profit~ from selling each kit(SCBA and EEBD)?
What was the actual cost of each kit for EM?

The only thing that comes up on Google lol..
I wish there was a cached version of this site

 

[Γyuk]

The only thing that comes up on Google lol..
I wish there was a cached version of this site

There is lol, I just looked it up.

 

[Eskalacianorka]

There is lol, I just looked it up.

Can you send it?

 

[Γyuk]

Can you send it?

About Us

Nitrogen flow regulators are employed in a number of applications: beer brewing, wine preservation, respiratory medicine, arc welding, spray-painting, chocolate aeration, and tire inflation applications to name a few.The escMode® line of premium nitrogen flow control regulators features anodized...

web.archive.org

 

[Eskalacianorka]

About Us

Nitrogen flow regulators are employed in a number of applications: beer brewing, wine preservation, respiratory medicine, arc welding, spray-painting, chocolate aeration, and tire inflation applications to name a few.The escMode® line of premium nitrogen flow control regulators features anodized...

web.archive.org

Ohhh goood
Last time I searched through web.archive.org there was nothing, strange!

 

[Das Nichts]

How much was EM's profit~ from selling each kit(SCBA and EEBD)?
What was the actual cost of each kit for EM?

1/3 of the price seems reasonable.

 

[Techef]

Didn't realize local gas suppliers aren't willing to fill up a brand new tank you bought and brought in - they'll only trade you a banged up, used, re-filled tank in exchange for the brand new one you brought with you. Not to mention that if your tank came with ISO instead of DOT certifications, they won't even fill it for you. Gonna have to return this tank and just try to buy/rent one from a local supplier...

 

[anonaon]

Didn't realize local gas suppliers aren't willing to fill up a brand new tank you bought and brought in - they'll only trade you a banged up, used, re-filled tank in exchange for the brand new one you brought with you. Not to mention that if your tank came with ISO instead of DOT certifications, they won't even fill it for you. Gonna have to return this tank and just try to buy/rent one from a local supplier...

Yeah Canada is also similar in this regard. Not all welding suppliers fill customer own cylinders. Some only exchange, some do both. You must call/email ahead of time and ask if they fill you cylinders (make sure to give them details - stamp/certifications, hydrotest date, etc). If you have home-brew suppliers near you, they might be able to help you out.

P.S. some welding suppliers only carry 95-99% purity Nitrogen. While this may be sufficient, try to go for higher purities (>=99.8%)

 

[outrider567]

Yeah Canada is also similar in this regard. Not all welding suppliers fill customer own cylinders. Some only exchange, some do both. You must call/email ahead of time and ask if they fill you cylinders (make sure to give them details - stamp/certifications, hydrotest date, etc). If you have home-brew suppliers near you, they might be able to help you out.

P.S. some welding suppliers only carry 95-99% purity Nitrogen. While this may be sufficient, try to go for higher purities (>=99.8%)

Yes, Greenberg stated even 95% Nitrogen will work just fine--The Welding Co I talked to stated by law, they can't sell filled Nitrogen tanks with less than 99.0 per cent purity Nitrogen

 

[Das Nichts]

Didn't realize local gas suppliers aren't willing to fill up a brand new tank you bought and brought in - they'll only trade you a banged up, used, re-filled tank in exchange for the brand new one you brought with you. Not to mention that if your tank came with ISO instead of DOT certifications, they won't even fill it for you. Gonna have to return this tank and just try to buy/rent one from a local supplier...

When I checked about refilling they sent me a quote, one of the positions was rechecking an bran new cylinder for certification.
The price for this was higher than the gas filling.

 

[k1w1]

How much was EM's profit~ from selling each kit(SCBA and EEBD)?
What was the actual cost of each kit for EM?

Likely very healthy. 500% ?? All are available cheaply from internet sites as components. Mind you, I'll give it to the guy for finding a niche in the marketplace. I have to say this : I wondered if he wished he'd saved one back in case of a life stretch. Not sure what charges he may pull for his work in Canada but he'll be eating porridge for some time maybe.