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- Apr 5, 2023
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This new source from FF is not reliable. Pro Cure brand SN is known to be nitrate. You will get sick if you ingest it.
Nope, I haven't tested it personally. Would it be better to avoid using a sketchy SN source or taking a chance? I don't want people getting sick by taking NITRATE instead of nitrite. PC claims 99% nitrite, but multiple accounts of members experiencing symptoms of NITRATE poisoning. They survived their attempts, but were very sick afterwards.Does anyone have actual proof PC isn't good? Because if I learned anything from being here, NEVER take anyone's word for it unless there's solid evidence or (as exhausting at it is) you've done your own research.
Even then there's room for mistakes…I mean look at the blood test. People were throwing around this misinformation for months…possibly years - claiming it's validity and now it's coming out that it turns brown whether it's nitrate or nitrite.
The whole thing is just aggravating. No one has their story straight, which brings me back to the question - does anyone have actual proof of this?
If not when the time comes, I'll use my own water test strip on it and post it for others. I just don't want to open it unless I intend on using it that day (if it is in fact legit)
Nope, I haven't tested it personally. Would it be better to avoid using a sketchy SN source or taking a chance? I don't want people getting sick by taking NITRATE instead of nitrite. PC claims 99% nitrite, but multiple accounts of members experiencing symptoms of NITRATE poisoning. They survived their attempts, but were very sick afterwards.
I told people to avoid it because there were numerous claims that PC wasn't working some months ago. It very suspicious that PC is so easily obtained. Lots of failed attempts turning people off of SN all together. Until we get multiple accounts of successful deaths and quality testing I will not be promoting Pro Cure.
It's difficult to know what's good or not because everything here is based on blind trust in many ways.
One of the problems is possibly inconsistent quality of product. Maybe it is working for some and not for others, can't rely on it, not worth the risk.If I knew what I know now, I probably would have never bought from PC - I don't recommend anyone purchase this due to the uncertainty.
But I'm stuck with the stuff now, and I don't see myself ordering any new SN anytime soon due to my living arrangements (unless I want to take a risk) but for now, it's probably best to double check what the true answer is before proceeding to plan c. I just have to be in a very dark state of mind before I feel like testing it.
While there are people who say they have gotten sick from it, there were also people promoting it before. So who am I to believe? I haven't really read up on anyone compelling enough to prove to me otherwise. I can think of maybe one who may or may not have made a mistake doing the regimen.
The user Shu was originally the one who first claimed it didn't work and seemed like a trustworthy person at the time - but he was also posting that the SN blood test worked.
I'm not talking bad about anyone, Shu meant well - but it goes to show we are all in the same boat here and none of us are chemists - to pretend we are experts is dangerous to those who are already in a vulnerable state.
I believe we should all be careful with what we share as fact, when really we're just as inexperienced as the next person - parroting what we already heard from other users.
BumpThis new source from FF is not reliable. Pro Cure brand SN is known to be nitrate. You will get sick if you ingest it.
Been off and on for over 3 years.Bump
Also how did you find this out?
It seems that you are a fairly new account? Unless you had an old account here
No, just hearsay. I'd probably just buy something else just in case, it's better to be safe than sorry. I haven't tested mine yet due to not wanting to expose it to air until I am 100% sure I am going to use it in the next day.I was about to purchase some of that. Is it confirmed not useful?
I've only found one place I can buy it online. It is from a place beginning with G in the name. I think if I order three bottles the police might come.No, just hearsay. I'd probably just buy something else just in case, it's better to be safe than sorry. I haven't tested mine yet due to not wanting to expose it to air until I am 100% sure I am going to use it in the next day.
Or you could just buy from two separate sources as a backup.
I understand your worries. You could always buy it and then, a week or so later, order the other, so it doesn't seem as suspicious. Ordering some type of item along with it that would look like it was for curing meat may raise fewer red flags as well.I've only found one place I can buy it online. It is from a place beginning with G in the name. I think if I order three bottles the police might come.
I'm in NY state. I think I'll space them out as you said.I understand your worries. You could always buy it and then, a week or so later, order the other, so it doesn't seem as suspicious. Ordering some type of item along with it that would look like it was for curing meat may raise fewer red flags as well.
I'm not trying to persuade you, though; I'm just giving you options that came to mind. You do what you feel is right in your gut. Depending on where you live, you may have more to worry about than where I'm from.
Yes that's one test, another one is aquarium strip test, do both the tests to be sureI'm in NY state. I think I'll space them out as you said.
To test it you open and drop some on blood?
I'm in NY state. I think I'll space them out as you said.
To test it you open and drop some on blood?
Yes that's one test, another one is aquarium strip test, do both the tests to be sure
Do both to make sureThe aquarium test strip is better imo… we don't know whether or not nitrate does the same when mixed with blood.
I prefer the aquarium test - the blood test is too unreliable, and I'd be pricking my finger for nothing. The test strip will atleast give me a pin point to what I'm looking at.Do both to make sure
It is recommended to do both the test but it's your choiceI prefer the aquarium test - the blood test is too unreliable, and I'd be pricking my finger for nothing. The test strip will atleast give me a pin point to what I'm looking at.
Recommended by who?It is recommended to do both the test but it's your choice
Purity of sn is the first thing to be worried about to do ctb using sn so I won't be taking chances
Recommended by who?
That's the thing; the blood test doesn't give me a basis for whether or not it's pure. I may end up testing it for the community if I do in fact have nitrate (just to see what my blood ends up doing since no one else is stepping up to do it), but as for me putting my trust in the blood test for nitrite, I can't do that. I have yet to see anyone document what nitrite and nitrate do with the mixture of blood side by side as a comparison.
But if it makes you feel better to do both, then fine, but I don't think anyone should be advocating for a test that has zero evidence of being viable.
It's giving me a reading though - a actual guideline on what the percentages are in it. Unlike the blood where it's turning brown no matter what two chemicals it is. Not perfect by all means but more reliable to what I'm getting with the blood test.By your logic, aquarium strip test is not viable too because high purity nitrite will show high readings of nitrate too in the strip test
I always recommend everyone to do both strip test and blood test, it's the individual choice to do it or not
It will give you reading but it will show nitrate tooIt's giving me a reading though - a actual guideline.
Apologizes, I had sent my message too soon so I edited it.It will give you reading but it will show nitrate too
True…just isn't my thing. Having 30+ people tuning in on your discussion is enough to knock my anxiety into overdrive.No problem it's good to argue when it comes to ctb methods because it help to learn more and people who come in the future can learn from this and make something more advanced to test nitrite purity
Apologizes, I had sent my message too soon so I edited it.
I do know that though, why I said, it gives me a better idea on what's in it exactly.
True…just isn't my thing. Having 30+ people tuning in on your discussion is enough to knock my anxiety into overdrive.
Would be nice… what we have now is far too flimsy. The kind where you put drops into the vial may be a better alternative to the strips though…but I haven't heard many people talk about that nor have I tried it myself.
Just throwing it out there
I found this thread from June of 2022Has anyone tried the drops yet? I could try but I need a small amount of confirmed Ni and Na to compare.