Method Anyone else doing inert gas with an exit bag?

[GasMonkey]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/x.79943/#post-1430861

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/x.79943/#post-1682926

https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/gas-density-d_158.html

I agree with this. For the ExitBag: Helium > Nitrogen > Argon
Go for Helium, if you can't find it get Nitrogen.

 

[missingpeace]

Yes, I'm interested but I still have to buy everything. I have my exit bag which is just a oven plastic bag but I still need to buy my tank, regulator and plastic tubing.

 

[jolongone]

Update: My inert gas method no longer works, have to resort to SN

What happened?

 

[jolongone]

I don't see many people doing inert gas asphyxiation that too with just as an exit bag instead of the other mask and scuba alternatives. I was wondering if the ones that are currently doing this method with an exit bag wanted to make a group chat or something to discuss further about the method? The ones who will be leaving soon.

Hi, can l pm you please?

 

[tantheta]

Does anyone have images or instructional guide to setting up the Exit Bag? I have all the supplies needed and just want to make sure I execute properly.

Am I just securing the hose into the Exit Bag from the neck, tightening the elastic just enough to leave a slight opening (can someone specify how big of an opening?) for CO2 to exit, and breathing? Please lmk

I'm down to chat @Obliviate, PM me

 

[Obliviate]

Hi, can l pm you please?

Does anyone have images or instructional guide to setting up the Exit Bag? I have all the supplies needed and just want to make sure I execute properly.

Am I just securing the hose into the Exit Bag from the neck, tightening the elastic just enough to leave a slight opening (can someone specify how big of an opening?) for CO2 to exit, and breathing? Please lmk

I'm down to chat @Obliviate, PM me

Hey guys, sorry haven't been on in a while. Right now I am no longer doing the gas method becuase it's just simply not working for me. My post down below explains what happen

Inert gas method not working for me

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/help-with-my-exit-bag.100453/ So above is my post from months ago of my first attempt at inflating the exit bag(hairband method) on my forehead and it worked perfectly. All of a sudden magically when I'm ready to CTB the method is not working. I have...

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Does anyone have images or instructional guide to setting up the Exit Bag? I have all the supplies needed and just want to make sure I execute properly.

Am I just securing the hose into the Exit Bag from the neck, tightening the elastic just enough to leave a slight opening (can someone specify how big of an opening?) for CO2 to exit, and breathing? Please lmk

I'm down to chat @Obliviate, PM me

This is my post on how I figured out the exit bag. Ideally the opening should be where you can place 2 fingers in the neck hole.

I finally deciphered how to make an exit bag

The instruction available on how to make an DIY exit bag with elastic is SOO much more complicated than the instructions for it and the videos as well. The design of it is very confusing that's why I had settled for the sweatband method. I found the Betty video and Doing it with Chi which is...

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[seekingpeacefulend]

I don't see many people doing inert gas asphyxiation that too with just as an exit bag instead of the other mask and scuba alternatives. I was wondering if the ones that are currently doing this method with an exit bag wanted to make a group chat or something to discuss further about the method? The ones who will be leaving soon.

Yes but I can't seem to find the right regulator. Doesn't seem to be any other way where I'm guaranteed to finally end everything. Tried slashing risks, overdose and hanging. None worked.

 

[Obliviate]

Yes but I can't seem to find the right regulator. Doesn't seem to be any other way where I'm guaranteed to finally end everything. Tried slashing risks, overdose and hanging. None worked.

Oh man. Yeah the inert gas method can get a bit technical. Unfortunately it did not work for me

 

[cerealandmilk]

It's not popular because this method is a little expensive and if you mess it up, you get permanent disabilities. It's a very precise thing to do.
However it does seem like a good way to go if done correctly...

That's what I'm leaning towards.. the gas or jumping

It's not popular because this method is a little expensive and if you mess it up, you get permanent disabilities. It's a very precise thing to do.
However it does seem like a good way to go if done correctly...

I agree it seems like a very good way to go if you don't mess up. Costly but the least pain seems the best way

 

[bov]

Globally there are only like 20 successful cases a year. That gives me pause.

 

[ThymeToLeave]

I'm thinking about it but it seems complicated and therefore easy to screw up.

Are the SCBA/EEBD methods more reliable? That equipment is awfully expensive, right?

 

[WheelSucker459]

Globally there are only like 20 successful cases a year. That gives me pause.

Everyone talking about it makes it seem more

Another way not possible then

Feeling so trapped right now

I'm thinking about it but it seems complicated and therefore easy to screw up.

Are the SCBA/EEBD methods more reliable? That equipment is awfully expensive, right?

Did not kmow there is a difference

All very confusing

 

[Obliviate]

Globally there are only like 20 successful cases a year. That gives me pause.

I'm thinking about it but it seems complicated and therefore easy to screw up.

Are the SCBA/EEBD methods more reliable? That equipment is awfully expensive, right?

Everyone talking about it makes it seem more

Another way not possible then

Feeling so trapped right now


Did not kmow there is a difference

All very confusing

The setup failed for me even though the exit bag was made very well. If you do decide to go further with an exit bag try to get nitrogen instead. I think maybe argon was the issue.

 

[gymaddict18]

Yup. Grabbed some med supplies from work (the tape, a couple NRB masks with tubing) and am picking up the gas from a local welding supply shop tomorrow along with my turkey bag.

 

[Tears in Rain]

The setup failed for me even though the exit bag was made very well. If you do decide to go further with an exit bag try to get nitrogen instead. I think maybe argon was the issue.

It was probably due to the argon. 15 litres per minute (LPM) with argon is not enough. A previous poster on the inert gas megathread, @DyingToDie123, felt suffocation feelings when using argon at 15lpm with an EEBD hood. When they switched to 25lpm they felt fine. But S.I. prevented their last attempt.

Update: I think I am feeling some suffocation/panic from CO2. It is so slight but enough to make it intolerable for me. This isn't supposed to happen with an EEBD hood -- what can I do to troubleshoot this? It is the MSA brand if that helps.

It may be worthwhile upping the LPM flow to 25 LPM. One of the most expert people on this site, @GasMonkey (no longer around), had this to say about argon:

"Argon is the worst inert gas to use with the ExitBag due to its weight (less eficient CO₂ purging), but there are people who have CTB'd with Argon+ExitBag like Deafsn0w and the PPeH says that Argon is viable for CTBing. imcadt99 also CTB'd with an Argon SCBA......
There have been folks here reporting having to abort attempts due to feeling bad (suffocation/panic) with Argon+ExitBag (claiming that they did everything correctly). I tend to think that they did something wrong in the process, but the truth is that we only have strong evidence of 15 LPM working well for Nitrogen and Helium. The supposed issues of Argon should be solved by increasing the flow rate to have a faster CO₂ purging."

I tried this today, felt MUCH much better, no panic response at all, actually felt like breathing normal air. I think I made it 15-20 seconds this time (I took 8 relatively slow breaths) and I know it was pure SI that got in the way. No effects though so I think I'm far from blackout. I don't think I'm in the right mindset for it today so just gotta save it for a day where I'm really feeling it.

 

[curioustotheend]

I don't see many people doing inert gas asphyxiation that too with just as an exit bag instead of the other mask and scuba alternatives. I was wondering if the ones that are currently doing this method with an exit bag wanted to make a group chat or something to discuss further about the method? The ones who will be leaving soon.

I would be very Interested in being a member of such a group. I have many questions.

 

[curioustotheend]

Yup im doing exit bag. Have pretty much everything i need now:

5l tank of Nitrogen
Regulator
Flowmeter
PVC tubing & clip
oven bag
Elastic

Just need to get some micropore tape and book the hotel....

How will you disguise the noise of the helium/nitrogen entering the hood?
I'm trying to locate something bteer than an over bag? As the bag nivesnit makes a hellnof a noise. Im planning to CTB in a hotel room more my car (don't want to attract unnecessary attention). Any suggestions?

 

[jayturner245]

Yes

 

[Fennec123]

How will you disguise the noise of the helium/nitrogen entering the hood?
I'm trying to locate something bteer than an over bag? As the bag nivesnit makes a hellnof a noise. Im planning to CTB in a hotel room more my car (don't want to attract unnecessary attention). Any suggestions?

Disguise it from who? If i do it at a hotel (which is the most likely option right now) then I don't think it'll be loud enough for anyone to hear anyway

 

[jayturner245]

Is a 50 litre helium tank enough for exit bag?

 

[Kapsyl]

Is a 50 litre helium tank enough for exit bag?

If the cylinder is 50 liter with compressed helium at 100-200 bar then it would be waaay overkill. On the other hand you could probably fill a zorb ball with it.

 

[thewalkingdread]

On the other hand you could probably fill a zorb ball with it.

You could also fly around town like Mary Poppings or something...

There was a Brazilian Priest that non-intentionally killed himself flying with helium baloons...

 

[jayturner245]

If the cylinder is 50 liter with compressed helium at 100-200 bar then it would be waaay overkill. On the other hand you could probably fill a zorb ball with it.

How big does the tank need to be? What gas would be best helium or nitrogen?

 

[Onomatopoeia]

I'm thinking about it but it seems complicated and therefore easy to screw up.

Are the SCBA/EEBD methods more reliable? That equipment is awfully expensive, right?

SCUBA and SCBA are very different, as it the exit bag, as it relates to administration of the inert gas (preferably nitrogen for all the reasons stated in this thread and others).

SCUBA inert gas megathread

SCUBA inert gas megathread This thread was made only for the SCUBA method. For other inert gas methods please use the other threads. ************ Since my post regarding the SCUBA method in another thread, there have been many questions regarding this method in several threads and by PM...

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That said, both SCUBA and SCBA methods are far more reliable than the bag. I'm using SCUBA and nitrogen. If you do it right, it's 100% guaranteed to knock you unconscious in 10-15 seconds and kill you in 3-4 minutes. Think about it...SCUBA masks and regulators are meant for people to breath oxygen underwater. All of your inhaled air is nitrogen; all of your exhaled air leaves the regulator, like when you see bubbles when SCUBA divers exhale underwater. But that's why you need adapters, because SCUBA regulators are built to screw into oxygen tanks, not nitrogen tanks.

Yes, it's expensive. I spent a total of $900 on my setup.

Inert gas setups gallery. Show your setup

Just ratchet straps/tie-down straps that you can get in most hardware stores: . And you tighten it after you adjust the mask or is it preset?

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It's overwhelming at first when you start researching it. But in the end, it's not as complicated as it looks. I'm an English teacher. If I can do it (which I hope is successful here soon), younger people who play video games and other technology stuff should be able to do it.

You can lower costs though. The gas is going to be expensive regardless, unless you already own the tank and can just get it refilled. But @Tears in Rain linked this very useful guide. It talks about buying used SCUBA equipment. This guy apparently bought a regulator for $60 used. Mine was $300 new.

 

[Kapsyl]

How big does the tank need to be? What gas would be best helium or nitrogen?

It's recommended to have at least 30-40 min of inert gas to ensure death. That would translate to around 4-5 liters of compressed gas at 200bar or uncompressed around 1000 liter of inert gas. Different gas canisters come in different pressures and sizes but the total volume of the uncompressed gas will need to be around 1000 liters.

What kind of gas is your pick, helium was popular a few years ago because how easy it was to obtain from ballon canisters. But the manufacturers have started mixing air into the mix at least in the USA.

Nitrogen is the most popular choice now but both gases are equal in their properties.

 

[jayturner245]

It's recommended to have at least 30-40 min of inert gas to ensure death. That would translate to around 4-5 liters of compressed gas at 200bar or uncompressed around 1000 liter of inert gas. Different gas canisters come in different pressures and sizes but the total volume of the uncompressed gas will need to be around 1000 liters.

What kind of gas is your pick, helium was popular a few years ago because how easy it was to obtain from ballon canisters. But the manufacturers have started mixing air into the mix at least in the USA.

Nitrogen is the most popular choice now but both gases are equal in their The

The smallest tank of pure nitrogen they have is 10 litres, this would still be efficient to ctb?

 

[Kapsyl]

The smallest tank of pure nitrogen they have is 10 litres, this would still be efficient to ctb?

That depends under what pressure these tanks are, if they are at least 100bar it should be enough.

 

[jayturner245]

That depends under what pressure these tanks are, if they are at least 100bar it should be enough.

Yes I found out it's 110 bar I'm very pleased. One will be enough?

 

[Kapsyl]

Yes I found out it's 110 bar I'm very pleased. One will be enough?

110bar x 10liter is 1100 liters of uncompressed nitrogen. That would get you 73 min of nitrogen at 15/lpm (liter per minut). It only takes 10-20 min with a correct setup so it will be more than enough.

 

[jayturner245]

110bar x 10liter is 1100 liters of uncompressed nitrogen. That would get you 73 min of nitrogen at 15/lpm (liter per minut). It only takes 10-20 min with a correct setup so it will be more than enough.

What's the correct set up?