Mare Imbrium
Killing yourself to live.
- Dec 10, 2020
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And you tighten it after you adjust the mask or is it preset?Just ratchet straps/tie-down straps that you can get in most hardware stores:
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And you tighten it after you adjust the mask or is it preset?Just ratchet straps/tie-down straps that you can get in most hardware stores:
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I wish you would open a non-profit thing in Switzerland. That would be interesting.@Wunderkind
SCBA (Nitrogen)
@imcadt99
SCBA (Argon)
@Bengal
SCBA (Nitrogen)
@Joarga
SCBA (Nitrogen)
@LetzteAusfahrt
SCUBA (Nitrogen)
And you tighten it after you adjust the mask or is it preset?
Who are you referring to, @GasMonkey? He's no longer around.I wish you would open a non-profit thing in Switzerland. That would be interesting.
Besides, I have found this article on PubMed about Dignitas, a non-profit organisation who used helium to help people die painlessly in Switzerland.
Damn, this Swiss man's setup is simple. I need that.
Nothing. I was fine with either options, Sarco or N2. Since I have been spending some time with Inert gas threads, I am slowly but surely improving myself about N2 stuff. It's good to have reliable information.What's stopping you doing the inert gas setup where you live?
Haha this is the first I have seen of that method, what a charming and peaceful way to fall asleep! I can imagine the look on investigators faces as they open the doors to have the balls spring out everywhere. Should add a "confetti" sound effect for when this happens haha! Would be a fun "F-YOU!" to the world!I'm very sad that I don't have money to do the Beach Ball Car method. I'll probably CTB in next month and I'll post a separate goodbye thread then. I'm very scared to die but at least this method is completely painless
I'm going out of the box here, just going to put my mouth around the tank fitting and open the valve as fast as possible
Me too !!!Damn, I feel like an idiot now with my turkey basting bag and a shoe lace around the bottom.
People have previously tried those masks but found they gave problems. They don't provide a tight enough seal to prevent oxygen from entering.I'm wondering if it's possible to complete with a non-rebreather face mask? I've got everything I need but I just feel like a NRB mask would be less traumatizing to whomever finds me and maybe more peaceful for myself
How would say a military grade gasmask suffice? It has a valve for exiting co2 and if you could connect the filter with a nitrogen filled environment with a hose. The hose would then be connected to some sort of vessel with a release valve and the over pressure should push out remaining air in the vessel.People have previously tried those masks but found they gave problems. They don't provide a tight enough seal to prevent oxygen from entering.
I don't know anything about those masks. For the SCBA and SCUBA setups they advise to use masks joined to specific SCBA and SCUBA regulators. These regulators allow the gas to flow on-demand, i.e. only when the person breathes in.UseHow would say a military grade gasmask suffice? It has a valve for exiting co2 and if you could connect the filter with a nitrogen filled environment with a hose. The hose would then be connected to some sort of vessel with a release valve and the over pressure should push out remaining air in the vessel.
@onewayroad
Snorkeling mask (Argon)
**Note: This setup is unviable as it is. Masks have very low inner volume so they require a demand valve or reservoir bag (or a huge flow rate) to meet the demands of inhalation, but posting it anyway for educational purposes.
Very simple setup but should still work, will hopefully ctb soon today. Using Albee nitrogen with some cheap flowmeter. The hose is not the best, little bit too stiff but should still work. Cost was mostly made for Albee nitrogen hoping that it would be more reputable for pure Nitrogen, 99.98%
Its for exit bag, 15lpm for nitrogen, 25lpm for argon. Check scuba megathread.I keep seeing posts about "flow meters." What is that? I assume it is for exit bags and not SCUBA and/or non-USA inert gas tanks, correct? I want to be certain that all I need is the adapter (two parts in the USA), the DIN SCUBA equipment, the mask and the nitrogen.
I'm using the same bottle and probably the same flow meter, are you using the thread 1/4 sae?Very simple setup but should still work, will hopefully ctb soon today. Using Albee nitrogen with some cheap flowmeter. The hose is not the best, little bit too stiff but should still work. Cost was mostly made for Albee nitrogen hoping that it would be more reputable for pure Nitrogen, 99.98%
Sorry if it's been answered before but do h/n/ar tanks generally have the same connection for a regulator or can it vary?
Would a hose clip work attaching the tubing to the regulator?
Are you going with a similar set-up to the one used by Alabama in executing Kenneth Smith?It was mentioned that a constant flow system would require a high flow rate.
Someone mentioned about demand valve that allows inhalation for on-demand.
The problem with that type of setup (constant flow mask) with no demand valve and no reservoir bag is that a very high flow rate would be needed to meet the demands of inhalation, since the mask has a very low inner volume it doesn't have a big reserve of gas like with the EEBD Hood or the ExitBag. The constant flow air purifiers with masks operate at a huge flow rate (over 60 LPM).
Sorry if it's been answered before but do h/n/ar tanks generally have the same connection for a regulator or can it vary?
@Onomatopoeia , I thought the same thing until recently, when a German poster on the SCUBA megathread told me otherwise.They are all the same. The only difference is between U.S. and European tanks. You need different adapters in the U.S. versus the ones in the U.K. and Europe.
Yes, you can use hose clips/hose clamps to attach the tubing to a regulator.Would a hose clip work attaching the tubing to the regulator?
Here's all the info you need about the SCBA and SCUBA on-demand gasflow set-ups. (including CGA 580 info needed).Well I would like to remove any error from a set up.
I wanted to see what was required for the setup that particular poster mentioned.
It was mentioned about a full face mask, demand valve and then the adapters to the tank.
I have the N tank with the connection CGA-580.
I feel this method of a demand valve (a true SCUBA type of system) would be better.
Im just trying to figure out what the face mask & valves are.
I m trying to find a brand or model number.
Thanks for any information you can provide.
Your setup looks spot on!I finally have everything necessary to go. Crazy how I've been looking at photos of all this stuff for weeks. Now it's all sitting in my garage. It shouldn't be this expensive to have a quick, peaceful death. The final bill ended up being about $900. For the record, I will be cutting the mouthpiece off and not using it.
I've decided to do it in my husband's car in the garage. The N2 tank will be in the passenger seat, I'll be in the driver seat with my seatbelt on. From what everyone says, I'll just turn the gas on full blast since the regulator will control the pressure. According to the Dignitas study of four people who did inert gas (helium in their case), they all lost consciousness in anywhere from 36 to 55 seconds. They were instructed to exhale deeply and hold it while putting the mask on.
Three of them stopped breathing completely in under 4 minutes. One woman took 37 minutes to die because her mask was not on properly, and Dignitas cannot help you with that (but she was unconscious for 36 of those minutes). Otherwise they could be charged with crimes. It's very important to try on your mask several times, and even leave it on for a while so it fits the shape of your face. All four of them had involuntary arm flailing after losing consciousness. That's why I want to be strapped in so I don't knock over the tank or slump over, or god forbid, somehow involuntarily knock my mask off.
Rock n' roll! A hardcore skinhead look before you leave!I'm going to pull a Britney Spears and shave my hair right before CTB. I'm going to look really weird. But at least I'll only have to look at it for a few minutes. Hair, both facial and on top of your head, is your enemy with this method. You probably don't have to shave your head. But my hair is long, down to my mid-back. I just don't want any complications at all. I'm guessing it will take at least two months for anyone to know I'm dead. Hopefully I'm close to a skeleton by then.
Here's the final steps @GasMonkey said he'd use with the SCBA setup. The SCUBA setup could be done the same way.(you don't need an oximeter; belief in reincarnation (no. 11) is optional )Not sure when I'll do it. Definitely by the end of March. Or the next time I'm missing him to the point that my whole body hurts. I'll read over all the literature again over the next several days just to make certain.
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Your setup looks spot on!
With the SCUBA setup you'll probably lose consciousness quicker than that DIgnitas study, each inhalation gives a large blast of nitrogen. You may be out in less than 15 seconds.
Can I ask where you are located? As in, the U.S. or Europe or Asia? I ask because I am from the eastern part of the U.S. and am nervous about buying a tank and what story to tell them in person. I don't want them to push a 95% nitrogen tank on me instead of a 99% tank because for the latter (I assume) my story has cannot be about needing food-grade because food-grade is 95%. I think medical or industry grade is 99% and above, but what story can fit those types.Thank you! I hope it is spot on.
Yeah I totally agree. Every anecdote and study about nitrogen = lose consciousness in 2-3 breaths, or 10-15 seconds. I chose nitrogen over helium or argon specifically for this reason. I'm preparing myself for the worst case scenario if everything goes right, meaning 60 seconds before unconsciousness. But based on everything I've read, I'll probably be unconscious after two or three breaths.
It seems @GasMonkey was also worried about the involuntary arm twitches when you're unconscious. I need one hand to turn the gas on. I'll probably strap my left hand down so it can't move at all. then just use my right hand to turn on the gas, but then put my right arm back in the seat belt.