A worrying comment on nembutal taste

[RainAndSadness]

This is good information. Goggle 'first year complications of assisted suicide'. The article says NOT to mix N with orange juice or alcohol. I always thought OJ would be hard on a empty stomach. But I have read previously to use alcohol as a chaser. I wish I knew what malice did.

I kinda doubt orange juice is gonna totally revert the effects of N. 12 grams is extremely lethal.

 

[Decker]

Oh no I don't mean in that way. I mean OJ might make a person vomit.

 

[RainAndSadness]

Oh no I don't mean in that way. I mean OJ might make a person vomit.

Ohhh. Good thing I have a shitload of anti emetics.

 

[PhilistineEars]

I had a chalky bitter-as-life medicine I had to take so I coated (really really coated) my mouth with honey.

Worked pretty well but you can't eliminate entirely...

 

[Decker]

I had a chalky bitter-as-life medicine I had to take so I coated (really really coated) my mouth with honey.

Worked pretty well but you can't eliminate entirely...

I think a article I read mentioned honey. But it might have said honey
Water or honey liquid?.....I love sweets. Can we mix it with a chocolate shake :)

 

[PhilistineEars]

So my primary method was CO via sulfuric/formic acid chamber. After finding this site I ordered N and we'll see if it gets here.

If not, then I'll go back to my first method, which is almost finished.

 

[Anje]

The Dignitas preparation is 15 grams of pentobarbital in 50 ml of water.

The brand that A sells, Pisabental, is 6.3 grams of pentobarbital in 100 ml of carrier liquid. From researching other veterinary pentobarbital formulations, it's probably a combination of water, alcohol, and propylene glycol. So 2 bottles is 12.6 grams of pentobarbital in 200 ml of liquid.

As far as we know, no one has volunteered to do a taste-test of both. lol


They both taste like crap; we all know that. The Dignitas preparation tastes worse because it's more concentrated, but there's less to drink.

If you do a search for "Pisabental," you'll find numerous reports of people who successfully used it to CTB. There are even people who drank it without anti-emetics.

N tastes like crap. That's just the way it is. For some people, that's going to be a deal-breaker, and they'll need to use a different method or stick it up their butt.

Everyone says 2 bottles but peaceful pill book says 100ml 6gram of nembutal is more than enough to kill. Im gonna drink heaps of booze and just drink one.

 

[Morning Angel]

People really worry over the taste but I'm sure it's nowhere near as painful as living a whole life full of constant suffering. It will be over in minutes.

 

[MissLisa]

I guess if you pinch your nostrils and down it, eat something small and tasty straight after. The anti sickness should stop the vomiting and hopefully you will be drifting off shortly after. I can't imagine what it tastes like, I'm used to tasting chemicals and having them in my mouth (drugs) but I guess drinking it would be much harder. Trying to disguise with something else wouldn't work though

 

[windingdown]

http://www.soft-tox.org/files/toxtalk/SOFT_ToxTalk_v39-2.pdf

They even show a photograph of Pisabental, the brand that A sells.

Nice find.

 

[Suicideisnirvana]

I don't care about the taste, i'd drink literal piss to die, antiemetics work according to stories, also vomitting can't be provoked just by disgust.

 

[Moony21]

But in dignitas they take it in powder mixed with quite less amount of water

Yes that's true. My father died and he was a member from EXIT (Switzerland) and we were beside him. He had to drink much less. Because of the powder and a little bit of water.

 

[Moony21]

Be careful mixing anything with juices or alcohol. Because juice is acidic & alcohol is a pretty mild base solution. It can actually disassociate the molecular components of N. That's why there probably has been people who has "survived" after ingesting a lethal dose. Lots of research needs to be done before making a decision on mixing things together and such. :(

Even with the help of antiemetics, it also has to do with your stomach. 200ml of fluid is a lot. Thats aprox. 7oz of liquid you would chug down and need to keep it in the stomach. Usually the stomach can hold up to 1,000ml. That's 1/5th of the stomach that's needed for the solution alone, then you have to factor in all the regular stomach contents as well. It's a lot to look into :(

But why is "a" telling me, to mix it up with juice because of the bad taste?

 

[BellaKAT]

I don't think juice is gonna help much. i tried a tiny bit so i know how it tastes, ive basically accepted i'm going to be gagging my way to death.

 

[Johnnythefox]

Would plugging the nose with cotton wool or something not reduce the taste sensation? Given the relationship between the two regarding taste.

 

[sadak_the_wanderer]

I've been looking into research about quelling the gustatory response of various bitterants. I suppose I could dredge something up, given how concerned so many are with this topic.

 

[Tidus]

What are the lastest "reports" here?

 

[Sinbad]

So I tried a bit of the 'N' just to test my commitment and curiousity… and holy shit, it was the most vile, nausea inducing substance I'd ever ingested.

Hold your nose.. Drink the sweet elixir called N and afterwards enjoy yourself some Baileys chocolate cherry. Smile.. Lean back and close your eyes.
Enjoy your eternal sleep.

 

[worldexploder]

Giving that N tastes like shit and this is only 100ml and you take x 2 of these that's a lot to stomach given the bad taste

Philip Nitschke does ASMR

 

[jay35]

Philip Nitschke does ASMR

Yeah Nitschke sugarcoats methods. He calls vet Nembutal "bitter". I can tell you as having believed him, I failed to drink all of pisobental because it's 200ml of rusty toxic chemical garbage liquid. Nothing close to "bitter". Got about 30ml down even with flavoring added. Ended up in ICU & psych jail. I'll never believe his "peacefulness" ratings again.

 

[worldexploder]

Yeah Nitschke sugarcoats methods. He calls vet Nembutal "bitter". I can tell you as having believed him, I failed to drink all of pisobental because it's 200ml of rusty toxic chemical garbage liquid. Nothing close to "bitter". Got about 30ml down even with flavoring added. Ended up in ICU & psych jail. I'll never believe his "peacefulness" ratings again.

I wish people could just come and inject it in my arm.

 

[jay35]

I wish people could just come and inject it in my arm.

Yes like final exit network

 

[worldexploder]

Yes like final exit network

Even in the parts of the United States were euthanasia is legal for the dying, it's illegal to inject the patient with Nembutal. It's considered "murder" (I define murder as non-consentually taking someone's life). This is why the ill has to crush up, mix, then drink the stuff themselves.

 

[jay35]

Even in US States were euthanasia is legal for the dying, it's illegal to inject the patient with Nembutal. It's considered "murder" (I define murder as non-consentually taking someone's life). This is why the ill has to crush up, mix, then drink the stuff themselves.

Right but kevorkian had the Michigan courts leaving him alone as long as the patient released the clamp on his suicide machines. He really screwed up when he put himself on 60 min injecting it himself. We'd be in a way more progressive right to die poisition in the US if he hadn't been so delusional that.

 

[worldexploder]

Right but kevorkian had the Michigan courts leaving him alone as long as the patient released the clamp on his suicide machines. He really screwed up when he put himself on 60 min injecting it himself. We'd be in a way more progressive right to die poisition in the US if he hadn't been so delusional that.

That is true. But in a rational society, the 60 Minutes episode should have opened peoples eyes.

 

[jay35]

That is true. But in a rational society, the 60 Minutes episode should have opened peoples eyes.

Goes to show the egos get in the way.

 

[Cromulus]

Yeah Nitschke sugarcoats methods. He calls vet Nembutal "bitter". I can tell you as having believed him, I failed to drink all of pisobental because it's 200ml of rusty toxic chemical garbage liquid. Nothing close to "bitter". Got about 30ml down even with flavoring added. Ended up in ICU & psych jail. I'll never believe his "peacefulness" ratings again.

Damn 30 ml put you in the ICU? That's wild

 

[Fcancer]

Yeah Nitschke sugarcoats methods. He calls vet Nembutal "bitter". I can tell you as having believed him, I failed to drink all of pisobental because it's 200ml of rusty toxic chemical garbage liquid. Nothing close to "bitter". Got about 30ml down even with flavoring added. Ended up in ICU & psych jail. I'll never believe his "peacefulness" ratings again.

Not saying you're wrong, as it probably tastes like battery acid. But i've seen elderly sick people down it, so not quite sure why you couldn't??

Maybe you could* do it as an enema, as you appear to have stomach problems possibly.

 

[Tidus]

Yeah Nitschke sugarcoats methods. He calls vet Nembutal "bitter". I can tell you as having believed him, I failed to drink all of pisobental because it's 200ml of rusty toxic chemical garbage liquid. Nothing close to "bitter". Got about 30ml down even with flavoring added. Ended up in ICU & psych jail. I'll never believe his "peacefulness" ratings again.

Can you describe the taste further?
Did you take anti-E??

 

[RainAndSadness]

Yeah Nitschke sugarcoats methods. He calls vet Nembutal "bitter". I can tell you as having believed him, I failed to drink all of pisobental because it's 200ml of rusty toxic chemical garbage liquid. Nothing close to "bitter". Got about 30ml down even with flavoring added. Ended up in ICU & psych jail. I'll never believe his "peacefulness" ratings again.

I know two members in this forum who successfully ctb with N. I'm sure it's possible.