I think the taste and vomiting issues are way overblown and have become N Boogeymen. Thousands of people have drank it fine for a long time now so it's clearly doable and not "impossible" or a "deal breaker". There are videos online of people drinking it Dignitas I believe. People hear things then repeat them even more exaggerated and it expands with time. In the end none of us WANT to do this, we just want the pain of whatever sort we have to end, so we look for even subconscious reasons to avoid the act because of fear and instinct.
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chronicpainnomore
Not Circling the Drain Anymore
- May 31, 2018
- 310
I think you can't really compare the Dignitas preparation to the N for injection that most people obtain from A. From what I've been able to ascertain from the videos, the Dignitas preparation is a much more concentrated dose in a different form from the vials meant for injection, but the Dignitas preparation still tastes awful because the patients complain about the bitterness and chase it with chocolate candy. I doubt there are many people who could tell us for sure what the difference is.
El Topo
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- Apr 21, 2018
- 478
The Dignitas preparation is 15 grams of pentobarbital in 50 ml of water.
The brand that A sells, Pisabental, is 6.3 grams of pentobarbital in 100 ml of carrier liquid. From researching other veterinary pentobarbital formulations, it's probably a combination of water, alcohol, and propylene glycol. So 2 bottles is 12.6 grams of pentobarbital in 200 ml of liquid.
As far as we know, no one has volunteered to do a taste-test of both. lol
They both taste like crap; we all know that. The Dignitas preparation tastes worse because it's more concentrated, but there's less to drink.
If you do a search for "Pisabental," you'll find numerous reports of people who successfully used it to CTB. There are even people who drank it without anti-emetics.
N tastes like crap. That's just the way it is. For some people, that's going to be a deal-breaker, and they'll need to use a different method or stick it up their butt.
Death is as quickly as that apparently
To witness it, it looks as peaceful as can be," Mr. Nitschke said of death by pentobarbital. "I usually recommend that they take it with their favorite drink since it has a bitter taste. I've never seen anyone finish their whiskey or Champagne. There isn't enough time to give a speech. You go to sleep and then you die."
To witness it, it looks as peaceful as can be," Mr. Nitschke said of death by pentobarbital. "I usually recommend that they take it with their favorite drink since it has a bitter taste. I've never seen anyone finish their whiskey or Champagne. There isn't enough time to give a speech. You go to sleep and then you die."
Isn't OJ hard on a empty stomach? I wonder if that would make someone throw up?
angie
need to exit
- May 25, 2018
- 480
well i have never seen a video of anyone taking 200ml pisabentowish there was
e dignitas video are totally different anyone can glug down 50ml of a horrible taste but 200 mls is a different ball game ??
also the varying amounts of antiemetic isnt very reassuring either ,
i want to do it but i may not even be right after taking 60mg antiemtic . dont know the affects of it on me never taken it before at all ,
then gotta try n get 200mls pisabental down god im scared .i just wish id have a heart attack or summit nothing is easy fgs
e dignitas video are totally different anyone can glug down 50ml of a horrible taste but 200 mls is a different ball game ??
also the varying amounts of antiemetic isnt very reassuring either ,
i want to do it but i may not even be right after taking 60mg antiemtic . dont know the affects of it on me never taken it before at all ,
then gotta try n get 200mls pisabental down god im scared .i just wish id have a heart attack or summit nothing is easy fgs
angie
need to exit
- May 25, 2018
- 480
i am unable to walk about or that or else id be throwing my self in a river be easier im sure .
angie
need to exit
- May 25, 2018
- 480
has anyone ever taken 60mg antiemetic ???
I'll be using lidocaine and a straw which I'll put deep in my throat and try to drink it that way.
angie
need to exit
- May 25, 2018
- 480
i was wondering about a funnel actually .
but as i say gotta get past the anti emetics 1st grrrr its just as worrying to me .
end up in suicde hospital if it fails .
d hire a hit man if i could lol
dont have money anyway though
but as i say gotta get past the anti emetics 1st grrrr its just as worrying to me .
end up in suicde hospital if it fails .
d hire a hit man if i could lol
dont have money anyway though
Yep praying for a cardiac arrest it's not coming
skip to 2:40 ... this is 15mg powdered N dissolved in water ... seems a lot to drink wonder if much different to to 2 x 200ml
angie
need to exit
- May 25, 2018
- 480
how do you pm on here ?.
im hoping someone can send me the ppeh mine has dissappeared off my ipad somehow
im hoping someone can send me the ppeh mine has dissappeared off my ipad somehow
angie
need to exit
- May 25, 2018
- 480
i cant afford to buy it
but had a copy someone sent me by email
but had a copy someone sent me by email
NumbItAll
expendable
- May 20, 2018
- 1,001
Anyone else tried liquid N or know of any other anecdotes? I was under the impression that any determined person could do it with the help of antiemetics, but I would definitely like to learn more, and I'm sure we all want to be as prepared as possible.
El Topo
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- Apr 21, 2018
- 478
http://www.soft-tox.org/files/toxtalk/SOFT_ToxTalk_v39-2.pdf
They even show a photograph of Pisabental, the brand that A sells.
A little more than a can of beer looks like for 400 ml.
not-2-b-the-answer
Archangel
- Mar 23, 2018
- 7,839
That sounds like a worse alternative to me.
not-2-b-the-answer
Archangel
- Mar 23, 2018
- 7,839
I was thinking the same thing... what if it doesn't all stay in there ?
I don't even like the idea of putting something in "there" ;)
not-2-b-the-answer
Archangel
- Mar 23, 2018
- 7,839
It may be more potent but I still can't get past doing it that way.
I have also heard of "Butt Chugging"
Who thinks of this shit ???
Absolutely no way I would ever do that. Especially at a frat party.... Even if I was the one who got to go first. ;)
El Topo
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- Apr 21, 2018
- 478
Not sure what you're referring to, but the bottles that A sells are 100 ml.
2 bottles = 200 ml, which is about 4/5 of a cup. 13 tablespoons.
Kitty
Member
- Jun 14, 2018
- 6
Be careful mixing anything with juices or alcohol. Because juice is acidic & alcohol is a pretty mild base solution. It can actually disassociate the molecular components of N. That's why there probably has been people who has "survived" after ingesting a lethal dose. Lots of research needs to be done before making a decision on mixing things together and such. :(
Even with the help of antiemetics, it also has to do with your stomach. 200ml of fluid is a lot. Thats aprox. 7oz of liquid you would chug down and need to keep it in the stomach. Usually the stomach can hold up to 1,000ml. That's 1/5th of the stomach that's needed for the solution alone, then you have to factor in all the regular stomach contents as well. It's a lot to look into :(
Even with the help of antiemetics, it also has to do with your stomach. 200ml of fluid is a lot. Thats aprox. 7oz of liquid you would chug down and need to keep it in the stomach. Usually the stomach can hold up to 1,000ml. That's 1/5th of the stomach that's needed for the solution alone, then you have to factor in all the regular stomach contents as well. It's a lot to look into :(
Does anyone know if sodium nitrite tastes less awful?
anna
downfall
- Mar 18, 2018
- 441
I can not say for sure, but from the comments I've read at 8chan, the taste does not seem too bad.
Something similar to drinking water with concentrated salt, I think.
Time ago an user complained saying thst sodium nitrite tasted gross and too salty, but it's only a minor issue.
El Topo
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- Apr 21, 2018
- 478
Someone posted this on 8chan:
I have something to add:
- Use an oral anaesthetic
Lidocaine is not available in my area but Benzocaine is. I found a little bottle of 20% Benzocaine (brand "Anbesol") at my grocery store and swished a cap ful in my mouth and spit it out. Zero feeling in my mouth. I tested it out on 200ml of a very foul tasting supplement I sometimes take (very rarely because it tastes so freakin bad) and was able to swallow the 200ml quickly and with ease. In addition to this, I think it is absolutely necessary to chase it with both a strong drink and some strong tasting food. I have never tasted the N, nor do I plan to until I intend to drink it, but if its any worse than the shit I've been rehearsing with, its going to be an unpleasant final taste to have in one's mouth.
I have something to add:
- Use an oral anaesthetic
Lidocaine is not available in my area but Benzocaine is. I found a little bottle of 20% Benzocaine (brand "Anbesol") at my grocery store and swished a cap ful in my mouth and spit it out. Zero feeling in my mouth. I tested it out on 200ml of a very foul tasting supplement I sometimes take (very rarely because it tastes so freakin bad) and was able to swallow the 200ml quickly and with ease. In addition to this, I think it is absolutely necessary to chase it with both a strong drink and some strong tasting food. I have never tasted the N, nor do I plan to until I intend to drink it, but if its any worse than the shit I've been rehearsing with, its going to be an unpleasant final taste to have in one's mouth.
Aponia & Ataraxia
Experienced
- Jun 24, 2018
- 233
You're right to think that. If it sounds absurd, and Nitschke wouldn't condone it, then its probably nonsense
Cya89
Member
- Jun 29, 2018
- 67
This is good information. Goggle 'first year complications of assisted suicide'. The article says NOT to mix N with orange juice or alcohol. I always thought OJ would be hard on a empty stomach. But I have read previously to use alcohol as a chaser. I wish I knew what malice did.
