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Freelyffe88

Freelyffe88

Member
Jun 28, 2021
98
I completely disagree with the nothingness after death belief. It's irrational in the sense that something came from nothing, coincidentally gained consciousness and ceases to exist. If you believe that time and space is infinite than inevitably all possibilities must continually occur (even though I don't believe this perspective). This realm appears to be specific/intentional. Not to be confused with the judgmental prick in the clouds belief. There are endless amounts of other possibilities besides judgmental prick in the clouds or something so silly as The Big Bang.

Keep in mind we are intentionally lied too about all things so called scientific and spiritual on this matter. Things such as the Big Bang are such blatantly laughable/nonsensical lies. There was nothingness then came an explosion, blowing up into very detailed everythingness. I would love to see someone do an experiment that can simulate such a thing. Blowing shit up out of nothing to make insanely complex/intentional/specific growing matter. True science requires actual, testable, experimentation... the big bang is probably the single most far fetched theory ever created, but it wasn't an actual theory, it was created for the sole purpose of deception. Science can't even predict tomorrows Goddamn weather, so when so called science claims that an event occurred a billion or so years ago down to the Goddamn month, you know they're full of shit (anything that can't be fact checked they're so precise about). All of that shit including religion exists to control us. Almost everything about this place is centered around programming us... We're forced to attend government indoctrination camps, which is almost entirely centered around memorizing and repeating info... that's not education, that's blatant programming.
 
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FTL.Wanderer

Enlightened
May 31, 2018
1,782
Many years ago I was reading a book about whatever the study of plants is called and a scientist, this part wasn't about the paranormal or any belief in an afterlife, said that when plants die an energy seems to leave them and he was wondering, almost in a joking tone, could we say that plants have souls?

If we believe in souls or energy for all living things then that should also apply to plant life and animals, everything that has life.

Several near death experiencers have said that even rocks give off an energy.
Yes x 100. I didn't know that about plants--but I'm going to Google it to learn more. I've read research papers in which plants show what scientists are calling a kind of intelligence (the way they react to their environments). For example, in experiments, plants are able to distinguish between other plants of the same gene line (relatives) and plants of the same species but not of the same gene line. And they cooperate with relative-plants to share resources. Lots of studies like that. Maybe intelligent life is a lot broader than we can perceive. So, why aren't we hearing more about other species in the AL--especially other intelligent, socially sophisticated species?

Another question I have... Scientist tell us pigs are even smarter and more socially sophisticated than dogs. So why is it that the animals we love as pets (dogs) are sometimes mentioned in the AL, but the smarter and more sophisticated social animals we happen to eat as food (pigs) aren't? Not trying to start a debate, but these questions make me wonder how our biases affect our perception of an afterlife.

Anyway, thanks for the plant references and the discussion!
 
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WFJ74

Student
Aug 18, 2020
150
I might have some strange ideas about what happens after death but I believe its not about the individual, but becoming part of the whole. Returning to the Earth. Becoming one with the land, nourishing other life. In that way we live on. I've written in my will that I want a "natural burial", not in a concrete grave, but a pine box buried in the ground so I can be consumed and re-used. My consciousness will likely disappear, but part of me will eventually be reborn if I'm lucky enough to pass that far through the food chain to wind up part of another human being.

I'm weird, I know but this is what I believe.
 
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Darkover

Archangel
Jul 29, 2021
5,570
from the void of nothingness we come, to the void of nothingness we return
we are all forced in and forced out, there's only been 100 billion human beings that have ever lived on earth
with chances of the probability of you being born is 1 in 400 trillion, you may sleep for a long time and be born again it be like you never left.
the matrix as you, we come from realms of unimaginable power and light, and we will return to those realms.

 
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Tonight634

Member
Aug 24, 2020
94
Perhaps, something happens. But I actually *want* to be right about nothing happening after death, deep inside. Because then that means all of this wasn't just a test. That means I didn't deserve any of the suffering I went through, it was all just a coincidence. Those who find solace in the fact something might happen puzzle me. Because then that means life has an inherent meaning beyond just pure biology, and that we're here for a reason. How does that make you feel better? That you somehow deserve suffering you never asked for?
I agree with this sm, I've seen a lot of videos on TikTok about something like soul contracts, that we chose this life, and it makes me so angry
 
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Cockney_Rebel

Everything you want is on the other side of fear.
Jan 7, 2021
455
DISCLAIMER: I apologize in advance for my English, I use Google Translate.

Hello, this is the first time I am doing a post.



I am curious about your beliefs after death? (Heaven, hell, reincarnation ..)



Personally, I think that after death our consciousness endures eternally in a totally controllable dream situation. That is, we do not join our deceased family but we create it. Imagine, an afterlife where you are in control. If you want to spend a part of eternity with your ex you can .. If you want to be rich you can .. If you want to make your innermost desires come to life you can ...



I think that's what makes me happy to be able to ctb when the time comes.



Tell me that wonderful things can happen to me.



I'm curious to hear from you now.
I'm going to reincarnate.

Absolutely no doubt.
 
NeverReallyHere

NeverReallyHere

Student
Mar 15, 2021
106
Keep in mind we are intentionally lied too about all things so called scientific and spiritual on this matter. Things such as the Big Bang are such blatantly laughable/nonsensical lies. There was nothingness then came an explosion, blowing up into very detailed everythingness.
No physicist would say there was nothing before the big bang; this assumption is based on a faulty understanding of the science. People far, far cleverer than either you or me have spent entire lifetimes studying this, so at least you could do some basic reading on the theory before dismissing it as lies and nonsense.
 
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Journeytoletgo

Broken and hated 7-14 years long overdue
May 14, 2018
1,608
It all depends on the mind/perspective in western society for example it is based on "survival of the fittest" also built on Christian and Roman Catholic values this is the western view doesn't mean it is true for all cultures and perspectives. Live and let live. No need to fight such matters. Because I was born in the "survival of the fittest" material value culture therefore it is taught that I deserved my suffering and bullying/abuse when I didn't choose to be here. Know one did this is why I find this culture harsh and brutal however that's my perspective just because I was dealt bad genetics that subjected me to abuse doesn't mean others in this society don't see the opportunity to flourish and thrive it's all based on perspective. One thing I don't like in USA is they want us ALL to suffer by ALL odds because (money) if they are suffering I can capitalize on their suffering and pretend to care when I just want money to live that's all there is to it. And because I see this I want NO part in it no thanks had I made other choices maybe I wouldn't even be on this site right now. Nothing can be done however know one is going to contain me in a life of torture because "feelings" no thanks.
 
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Chockles

Experienced
Sep 17, 2021
270
There's certainly no heaven & hell . No God would allow such torturous sufferring for a good person like me. Hell is existing on earth I hope for nothingness eternal sleep. R.I.P.
 
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lonerclown666

Mage
Dec 1, 2020
540
No afterlife reincarnation or nothingness
 
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LivvenDe

Student
Sep 22, 2021
113
I don't know what it is, but I know what I wish it were: nothing, no conscience, no existence, nothing!

But I kind of doubt it is so :/
 
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FutureNoomp

Member
Sep 27, 2021
18
Ashes to ashes and dust to dust.
 
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FTL.Wanderer

Enlightened
May 31, 2018
1,782
There's certainly no heaven & hell
First off, I'm not trying to challenge you. I'm asking sincere questions. Have you heard the viewpoint that god(s) might exist but be sadistic? I think of how humans might seem "gods" to other species (if they reason...), but we enjoy things like sport hunting, dog fighting, pleasure fishing... We even breed animals to suffer for our enjoyment. I wonder why a god-like being couldn't do the same with us. Like you, "I hope for nothingness eternal sleep."
 
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clown_17

Almost gone, it almost worked
Oct 24, 2020
288
I believe that death is the end of your consciousness. Like going to sleep forever. I know logically it's going to feel like how it feels before your born, nothing. Not pleasant, not unpleasant. A lack of knowledge about anything. A lack fo existence.

Yet sometime I fear that death will be your final moments immortalized. If you think about it time stops when you die. That's the last moment you ever experience so you have no reference to base time off, no moment after to have occur. So it would be as if you never died but instead were in your last seconds for an eternity. It's not realistic but it's a fear of mine.
 
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Amumu

Ctb - temporary solution for a permanent problem
Aug 29, 2020
2,623
I'm a mechanistic materialist. After death I'll be dust and I love that idea.
 
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Kennish

Specialist
Aug 17, 2021
379
A part of me would like to be reincarnated, but only if the next life is going to be good to me. No OCD, no anxiety, no unpleasant feeling all the time. I would hope for being raised in a loving, caring family that would give me all the mental health I need in order to live life to the fullest. And yeah, if I was reborn a boy, I would like to be 10 cm taller please.

Either that or an animal. A dog maybe, in a loving, caring home. Or something like a lion, tiger or a bird.

In fact I really don't care, I just hope I'll be reincarnated to be having a good life instead of this hell im in constantly.

I hate the idea of nothingness. My mind can't really comprehend that. What about our soul? Yes the brain is the functioning part that gives us perception, but it cannot be our soul.

What goes against this reincarnation thing, is that we don't recall our past lives. Why do we experience this one? And why can't we remember our past lives?

I have also been in a past-life therapy once. I cried when finding out my "mother" was dead. But maybe it was just my imagination?

I'll guess we will find out when we die. Nobody knows for sure.
 
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apathetic.

Shy
Aug 22, 2021
109
That's the truth.
I think there is nothing after death, we return to the same nothingness where we were at before we were born, like how time passed and we were not aware of anything. I think once we lose consciousness when we die, that is it for us. I find this comforting actually.
 
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Ren Elsie Jewelria

Ren Elsie Jewelria

I sneezed!
Aug 30, 2020
366
Hopefully nothingness. Was it so bad before you were born? No?
 
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ChaseBees

Member
Sep 30, 2021
50
I believe it'll just stop.
Would be nice to see my people afterwards, but the only person I would want to see is still alive. In that case I would be waiting 40 years until his death for him to join me
 
MG_39

MG_39

Physically ill suffering couch potato
Jul 5, 2019
221
Ok, so this is quite simple. (This is my opinion, and I respect all other opinions)

But for those of us who are agnostic/atheists or anything else that results in you base things on facts and nothing else.
NO science can explain what happens after death. It's just speculation and theories. It can be nothingness, it can be a God, we can be an experiment in a larger world somewhere out there.

I don't think there is a God, at least not a good one, who would let us suffer like this. I think God is a man made thing, that is used to either control us or to make us feel a purpose or feel safe. Is it still possible that there is a God that is good? yes everything is possible.

But let's look at some facts, our whole world is quite complicated how everything coexists. How complicated our brain and bodies are. So I do think there is or was something bigger out there, this doesn't mean that there is an afterlife though, we are just animals. We tend to think that we are special because we are the animals with the most developed brain, we are also one if not the worst kind of animal who destroys everything on this planet.

I had what most people would call a perfect life (before my health problems) And i'm not talking about unlimited amounts of money, which is a big misconception because that doesn't make a perfect life, far from. But I was physically and mentally healthy, (Very strong mentally) I had a girlfriend and a nice apartment in a large city (was just going to build a nice house) I had a job I really loved, without any stress and decent salary, I had hobbies I liked, good social life. I almost never failed with anything, and if I did I tried again and succeeded. I didn't plan to work as employed until I got old, so today I would probably have a small company that wouldn't require much work or other passive incomes, and I would spend my time for hobbies and travel, and just enjoy the good things in life.

BUT even though I really enjoyed life and life was easy and comfortable I still knew the fact, life have no meaning. Why? we live a very very short time here on earth, and in best case scenario the chemical balance in our brain makes us enjoy a large part of life (Some parts of life will still be suffering, we will loose loved ones, we will eventually get old and maybe at least suffer a while before we die because of illness) But let's say most of our life would be really nice and we would enjoy it, we would be able to do things that make us feel good. We will ALL be equal one day, our bodies will shut down and we will die.

I don't really care what happens after death, because no matter what I do it will happen. The reason I'm still here is because if I can manage to keep suffering and being tortured by my life situation I would prefer that so those who love me don't have to suffer. But I'm not sure for how long I will be able to.
 
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Kennish

Specialist
Aug 17, 2021
379
Ok, so this is quite simple. (This is my opinion, and I respect all other opinions)

But for those of us who are agnostic/atheists or anything else that results in you base things on facts and nothing else.
NO science can explain what happens after death. It's just speculation and theories. It can be nothingness, it can be a God, we can be an experiment in a larger world somewhere out there.

I don't think there is a God, at least not a good one, who would let us suffer like this. I think God is a man made thing, that is used to either control us or to make us feel a purpose or feel safe. Is it still possible that there is a God that is good? yes everything is possible.

But let's look at some facts, our whole world is quite complicated how everything coexists. How complicated our brain and bodies are. So I do think there is or was something bigger out there, this doesn't mean that there is an afterlife though, we are just animals. We tend to think that we are special because we are the animals with the most developed brain, we are also one if not the worst kind of animal who destroys everything on this planet.

I had what most people would call a perfect life (before my health problems) And i'm not talking about unlimited amounts of money, which is a big misconception because that doesn't make a perfect life, far from. But I was physically and mentally healthy, (Very strong mentally) I had a girlfriend and a nice apartment in a large city (was just going to build a nice house) I had a job I really loved, without any stress and decent salary, I had hobbies I liked, good social life. I almost never failed with anything, and if I did I tried again and succeeded. I didn't plan to work as employed until I got old, so today I would probably have a small company that wouldn't require much work or other passive incomes, and I would spend my time for hobbies and travel, and just enjoy the good things in life.

BUT even though I really enjoyed life and life was easy and comfortable I still knew the fact, life have no meaning. Why? we live a very very short time here on earth, and in best case scenario the chemical balance in our brain makes us enjoy a large part of life (Some parts of life will still be suffering, we will loose loved ones, we will eventually get old and maybe at least suffer a while before we die because of illness) But let's say most of our life would be really nice and we would enjoy it, we would be able to do things that make us feel good. We will ALL be equal one day, our bodies will shut down and we will die.

I don't really care what happens after death, because no matter what I do it will happen. The reason I'm still here is because if I can manage to keep suffering and being tortured by my life situation I would prefer that so those who love me don't have to suffer. But I'm not sure for how long I will be able to.
I've never been mentally stable. Life from start has been suffering. Every second, every minute. I'm just annoyed that we are programmed with survival instinct. We will all die yes. And maybe it doesn't matter if it's now or in 40 years. I just know I can't live life till I'm old. It's too much suffering to bear.

Every time I go to sleep I hope I don't wake up to the same. But I do. And I don't want to continue doing that.
 
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MG_39

Physically ill suffering couch potato
Jul 5, 2019
221
I've never been mentally stable. Life from start has been suffering. Every second, every minute. I'm just annoyed that we are programmed with survival instinct. We will all die yes. And maybe it doesn't matter if it's now or in 40 years. I just know I can't live life till I'm old. It's too much suffering to bear.

Every time I go to sleep I hope I don't wake up to the same. But I do. And I don't want to continue doing that.

It's the same here :/
 

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