Discussion What’s after death?

[Cryptonite]

Total nothingness, very similar to sleep, just devoid of any dreams & nightmares.

 

[lostontheroad]

Nothing.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

This reality is in fact HELL!!! We have already died, been judged, and been sent here for punishment! When we die here we are just reincarnated/reborn back to this shithole. Repeat for all eternity...

No we don't

 

[NotSureToEndure]

I'd be down for nothingness.. Though I'm secretly hoping I get the powers of realtime google maps and I can just fly around watching the world go by.

I won't haunt anyone.. Honest!

 

[Mocon33]

For there to be a "you" a well functioning brain is required. We have all seen what happens when a brain is damaged, it's not really "you" anymore.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

Nothing nothing nothing nothing lol

 

[Dear Agony]

I don't know, but hopefully not yet another life. I've been leaning to start believing in reincarnation because of the influence of others and it's horrifying to me. I don't want there to be another life at all.
I feel like other options such as a hell of some sorts would be too flawed to be true (like there's no way of taking apart good and evil in some cases).
I wouldn't mind becoming a spirit of some sorts though, that's the theory I most like when it comes to something after death. I would like to see some peoples reactions when I die. But well, the alternative I've always liked most is that there is nothing after death because it's what resonates the most with me and brings me the most peace.

 

[Alex6216]

Nothing nothing nothing nothing lol

I hope this is the case but from the stuff I heard and witnessed I doubt this is the case sadly...

 

[Idontmatter]

I hope this is the case but from the stuff I heard and witnessed I doubt this is the case sadly...

Pretty much nothing I believe. You just go to sleep and never wake up .

 

[Alex6216]

Pretty much nothing I believe. You just go to sleep and never wake up .

No one truly knows. I have had my prayers answered when praying to the abrahamic God so I have a feeling the Abrahamical heaven and hell is the true afterlife

 

[Journeytoletgo]

I hope this is the case but from the stuff I heard and witnessed I doubt this is the case sadly...

So what do you think? I say we are just flesh and bone nothing else

 

[Idontmatter]

No one truly knows. I have had my prayers answered when praying to the abrahamic God so I have a feeling the Abrahamical heaven and hell is the true afterlife

With my luck I'll probably burn in hell… lol. I'm gay so don't some of the religions saying I'm going to hell anyway? Lol

 

[CannotAnymore]

There is nothing. You die, that's it. Lights out, fade to black. No bright light, no heaven, no hell, no seeing your friends or family, no pain, so shame, nothing. It's just the end.

 

[lyles]

I hope for reincarnation in a life of our choosing. With others who we choose. But I know that it's unlikely and simply my way of escapism.

Otherwise my guess is the same state as before our birth, our consciousness gone and our energy returning to the earth with the rest of our body.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

I hope for reincarnation in a life of our choosing. With others who we choose. But I know that it's unlikely and simply my way of escapism.

I hope for that too, but then i look at this life and I am pretty sure the person in my previous life would not have chosen this one :/

 

[Journeytoletgo]

The scary thing is we came here once it can happen again I'm not so sure I know I want nothing but I don't know

 

[MementoMori81]

Nobody really knows for sure; the closest there is are theories like reincarnation and nothingness, etc

I'll put myself down for Nothingness ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think I'm in your camp on this one.
I remember listening to an Alan Watts talk where he talks about death - if I remember correctly, in order to boost my courage for if/when I decide to exit - and he spoke about thinking back, and back, and back to his earliest memories and that, before that there's nothing, total blank.
Which then also reminds me of the Mark Twain quote;
"I was dead for billions of years before I was born, and never suffered the slightest inconvenience from it"

I'd say "how peaceful is that?" But even that would be incorrect, because in order to experience peacefulness, you need to be alive, to be conscious and able to experience it in the first place. It'll just be simply nothing at all. Forever, and for never, because I simply just won't be anymore. I actually find that thought quite calming, though.
Think how much time will pass that I won't even be aware of? It's like going to bed at night and having a dreamless sleep. Do you know the kind I mean? Where you seemingly blink and when you open your eyes again, it's morning. You remember nothing of the sleep, and it's as though the last, let's say, 8 hours, went in a fraction of second. So, as an experiment to put death into perspective - close your eyes, count to one....that's what forever would be like, except you wouldn't know about it.
Nothing happens, and it keeps not happening, forever .

I'm not going to sleep tonight now thinking about this

 

[MrShino]

From my research, and I've done alot, there seems to be an astonishing volume of reports from those who crossed the line and came back to suggest that there is something. People frequently tells about a blissful state of love, peace and freedom. Myself, as a believing Christian, belive in Heaven. It just doesn't make sense that this is all there is; there's gotta be more, and there is more evidence for this than for anything else it seems.

I think the reason many people would want for it to not be anything more, is because they view it in their current mental perspective; and a prolonging of existence seems hazardious if one considers it a prolonging of the current state; but if they would consider all their problems gone and being replaced by love, then I cannot see why we wouldn't want to experience it. :)

 

[CandyCane]

I don't know, but anything official frowns on suicide, so that gives me pause. I have a hard time believing in anything, though.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

My fantasy for life after death would be to live in a torture chamber. Inside the chamber would be people like Osama , saddam, Rumsfeld , George bush, hitler , etc.

Inside the chamber they would be tortured by me and others forever and ever and ever and ever. The tortures would be exquisite and endless and the people there would be reminded daily they can never leave and never die.

 

[lyles]

I hope for that too, but then i look at this life and I am pretty sure the person in my previous life would not have chosen this one :/

Sometimes I think about it like this- if in my old life I had a wholly different experience and thought that my current one would be interesting for some reason. (Living through interesting historical times, etc.). While they suck to live through, they may have seemed interesting out of context before I fully understood. But that is just something I tell myself, who knows if there is any truth to it beyond my hoping.

 

[eremito]

how reliable/unreliable are reports about near-death-experience for you? Upon dying, people can see their late relatives welcoming them and sense the presence of spiritual beings at their side.
Those reports are mostly quiet, peaceful and positive. Have you heard any reports about near death experience from a person who did CTB? Where they negative?
Most people saw lights and was travelling in a tunnel. But this is a Christian version of the story.
What experiences are reported by non-religious people: atheists, agnostics?
What experiences are reported by people who observe other religions than Christianity?

 

[MrShino]

how reliable/unreliable are reports about near-death-experience for you? Upon dying, people can see their late relatives welcoming them and sense the presence of spiritual beings at their side.
Those reports are mostly quiet, peaceful and positive. Have you heard any reports about near death experience from a person who did CTB? Where they negative?
Most people saw lights and was travelling in a tunnel. But this is a Christian version of the story.
What experiences are reported by non-religious people: atheists, agnostics?
What experiences are reported by people who observe other religions than Christianity?

For me, I reckon these reports to be some of the most reliable sources of what happens after death - as they really have had the death experience, but have come back from it. It gives me great comfort nonetheless. Many accounts are also from clinically claimed death. It seems that most experiences following from CTB does not differ from those happening due to other reasons (you can google "nderf.org +suicide to learn more). The lights (or the Light) and travelling in a tunnel seem to happen regardless of faith and as thus not a exclusively Christian version. I have not looked deeply into the differences from people of different walks of life to claim certain particularities of each. Many people meet Jesus, though, even atheists it seems. Something that might be considered abit strange as the Christian faith claim belief in Jesus to be a prerequisite for entering Heaven. Maybe people get a second chance of believing in an actual encounter in 'the last moment'?

Very often the reports include the message that 'it is not your time', hence their return, even if most really want to stay there on the other side.

 

[Doombox]

For those interested in NDEs I recommend this book: The Buddha in Hell and Other Alarms: Distressing Near-Death Experiences in Perspective

And remember, it's NEAR death. Nobody comes back from being 100% dead.

 

[MrShino]

For those interested in NDEs I recommend this book: The Buddha in Hell and Other Alarms: Distressing Near-Death Experiences in Perspective

And remember, it's NEAR death. Nobody comes back from being 100% dead.

Doesn't sound very comforting, but the notion of 'in perspective' might actually be that? Those kind of experiences are in any case extremely rare.

Also people do come back from being 100% biologically dead, I don't know what other parameter you would make for it, but the biological vehicle we inhabit is completely shut down and the spirit leaves the body.

 

[hanax.]

Reincarnation. A fresh start.

if this does happen, i hope i'd be given a better life. life where we'd love to live longer and less pain — less sufferings — we deserve that.

 

[MrShino]

I recommend reading this amazing NDE story happening after suicide;

DW NDE 3587/6106

Narrative description of Rich B NDE

www.nderf.org

Some sentiments about returning are striking;
'I had to go back; this was not my time.

I had no choice in this. It was not in mine to decide. It was in that being's power to send me back. That being had the power to return me to my life here. Whatever it was I needed still was more important than my need to escape my temporary misery. I had to believe this. There was nothing between us but truth.'

There seems to be a reason we are here, regardless of the misery and suffering we might have to endure; that it all serves a greater purpose that we cannot yet fathom. Your soul might need this troublesome life experiences for some grand reason we do not yet know.

 

[Mocon33]

Doesn't sound very comforting, but the notion of 'in perspective' might actually be that? Those kind of experiences are in any case extremely rare.

Also people do come back from being 100% biologically dead, I don't know what other parameter you would make for it, but the biological vehicle we inhabit is completely shut down and the spirit leaves the body

Clinical death (cessation of heart and breathing) is reversible, thats what someone is talking about when they say they came back from the dead. Brain death is not reversible, there is no coming back from that, even if the body is kept alive. NDE's are just that, the brain going crazy as it nears death, they don't tell us anything about actual death.

 

[The Disinherited]

Clinical death (cessation of heart and breathing) is reversible, thats what someone is talking about when they say they came back from the dead. Brain death is not reversible, there is no coming back from that, even if the body is kept alive. NDE's are just that, the brain going crazy as it nears death, they don't tell us anything about actual death.

Nope, there have been Brain dead patients with NDE's

 

[Mocon33]

Nope, there have been Brain dead patients with NDE's

Link? Not doubting you, I'm just interested. I suspect a lax definition of brain death was used, but I would love to read about it.
For those who are interested, an overview of brain death from the NHS:

Brain death

Brain stem death is where a person no longer has any brain stem functions, and has permanently lost the potential for consciousness and the capacity to breathe.

www.nhs.uk