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[Life_and_Death]

ok this technically goes under recovery but it starts off with a rant so.

am i becoming that desperate that im willing to become a zombie, the very thing i read about others trying to avoid. all i want to do is be normal again instead of spending my days questioning if everything is even real. trying to decipher between whats ok and whats my disorders.

i think i changed my mind. im not going to add what i was going to add so this can stay here as a rant i guess. also when i say zombie im not referring to the medication specified in the title im talking about how i want myself to "chill out"

 

[Ghost2211]

I would go for something less addictive like MJ.

 

[Life_and_Death]

I would go for something less addictive like MJ.

im currently smoking a joint and im addicted. also it doesnt help. in fact in some cases it can make things worse

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/what-makes-an-addiction.49972/

 

[Ghost2211]

im currently smoking a joint and im addicted. also it doesnt help. in fact in some cases it can make things worse

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/what-makes-an-addiction.49972/

I see, yeah unfortunately it effects people so vastly differently. I can respect the need to decompress and chill out, but really no substance abuse is a good long term bandaid. If you just need something to tide you over till you ctb than pick you poison (so to speak)

 

[Life_and_Death]

I see, yeah unfortunately it effects people so vastly differently. I can respect the need to decompress and chill out, but really no substance abuse is a good long term bandaid. If you just need something to tide you over till you ctb than pick you poison (so to speak)

i was thinking something my psychiatrist could prescribe that would sort of help. thats why this should be in recovery.

 

[Ghost2211]

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i was thinking something my psychiatrist could prescribe that would sort of help. thats why this should be in recovery.

You should go over the options with them, and what they are willing to prescribe. I do hope you find something that helps take the edge off.

 

[Life_and_Death]

You should go over the options with them, and what they are willing to prescribe. I do hope you find something that helps take the edge off.

thank you. i think i know how ill go about that too :)

 

[Mm80]

I would go for something less addictive like MJ.

Rosey i really respect everything you say but recommending that someone listens to michael jackson to help them with mh issues. Doesnt make sense.
Plus his music is addictive. I was doing the moonwalk round the flat for 7 hrs straight the other day trying to perfect it.

 

[Ghost2211]

Rosey i really respect everything you say but recommending that someone listens to michael jackson to help them with mh issues. Doesnt make sense.
Plus his music is addictive. I was doing the moonwalk round the flat for 7 hrs straight the other day trying to perfect it.

Hmmm, you're right they wanted to chill out. How about Beatles instead?

 

[Life_and_Death]

Rosey i really respect everything you say but recommending that someone listens to michael jackson to help them with mh issues. Doesnt make sense.
Plus his music is addictive. I was doing the moonwalk round the flat for 7 hrs straight the other day trying to perfect it.

who knows the moon walk might take my mind off things lol

Hmmm, you're right they wanted to chill out. How about Beatles instead?

i like 1 song by the beatles and i cant even remember which one that is

 

[Sk1n1M1n]

Totally agree on that although the feeling can get a bit boring after a while:

 

[Life_and_Death]

found the one i like

 

[Mm80]

Hmmm, you're right they wanted to chill out. How about Beatles instead?

Actually now that you say it, whenever ive been in an addiction rehab place, they are always playing michael jacksons greatest hits in the background.
Yes your right ! ...We all live in a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine.

found the one i like

Mine and an ex girlfriends song that one L and D. Problem is that song could lead to sex/pornography addiction.
Beautiful.

 

[TooConscious]

My tolerance for benzos mainly diazepam went from 20 mg to 120mg in 3years. It's not a game. The withdrawal is not like smack where you recover in a week. Or alcohol where you shake off the delirium and you can start fresh in a week.
Benzo addiction needs a 6 month taper or you have the worst mental withdrawal and physically can have seizures the same as alcohol except with alcohol after 5 days of no convulsions un medicated you're not at risk, with benzos its 8 weeks.

 

[LonelyNick]

I went through Benzo withdrawal after being on 50mg for a year in a shelter and it was deeply traumatic. Do not recommend, -100/10

 

[Amumu]

Only twice a week for Benzos dudette
Otherwise withdrawal is traumatic indeed
The advantage is that it doesn't fuck your lungs like weed.
But if you're looking for recreational drugs, that's a bad idea, weed's better.

 

[Worthless_nobody]

Everyone knocks benzos but they do help *some* people like me to calm down, chill out and have less anger. I honestly don't think I would be alive if it wasn't for my prescription. Yes withdrawal is bad but that's where supervision of a psychiatrist and a slow taper comes in (I have faced bad withdrawal myself).

I always see weed as the go to recommend drug but Not everyone can use weed. It makes some people like me extremely paranoid I guess because of my ptsd and made my tinnitus way worse (I quit all other hard drugs which were just know killing me) so benzos is all I have.

 

[Life_and_Death]

Everyone knocks benzos but they do help *some* people like me to calm down, chill out and have less anger. I honestly don't think I would be alive if it wasn't for my prescription. Yes withdrawal is bad but that's where supervision of a psychiatrist and a slow taper comes in (I have faced bad withdrawal myself).

I always see weed as the go to recommend drug but Not everyone can use weed. It makes some people like me extremely paranoid I guess because of my ptsd and made my tinnitus way worse (I quit all other hard drugs which were just know killing me) so benzos is all I have.

See this is exactly what I'm looking for. I have ptsd, anger, paranoia. I just want to "chill out" ya know? Of course I'm not even sure why I thought this was a good idea. I probably can't take any.

 

[Worthless_nobody]

See this is exactly what I'm looking for. I have ptsd, anger, paranoia. I just want to "chill out" ya know? Of course I'm not even sure why I thought this was a good idea. I probably can't take any.

I completely understand. I told my psychiatrist about my panic attacks, ptsd and paranoia and they gave me a prescription for a benzo. Its worth a try to see if you can get any. I know lots of drs won't prescribe them anymore depending on where you live but hopefully you can find one. Even a low dose can help..i try to cut my xanax in half on days I feel ok ish. I was alternating the xanax with gabapentin for extra anxiety relief and to lessen my benzo tolerance until the gaba gave me a jaw clenching side effect.

 

[kohaku]

I recommend pregabalin if you haven't tried it yet. Less addictive/tolerance building than benzos, similar effects. It worked wonders for me.

 

[Life_and_Death]

I completely understand. I told my psychiatrist about my panic attacks, ptsd and paranoia and they gave me a prescription for a benzo. Its worth a try to see if you can get any. I know lots of drs won't prescribe them anymore depending on where you live but hopefully you can find one. Even a low dose can help..i try to cut my xanax in half on days I feel ok ish. I was alternating the xanax with gabapentin for extra anxiety relief and to lessen my benzo tolerance until the gaba gave me a jaw clenching side effect.

And if that doesn't work I can always save it for SN lol

I recommend pregabalin if you haven't tried it yet. Less addictive/tolerance building than benzos, similar effects. It worked wonders for me.

I'll look into it when I get home. :)

 

[Worthless_nobody]

I recommend pregabalin if you haven't tried it yet. Less addictive/tolerance building than benzos, similar effects. It worked wonders for me.

I really don't mean to derail the thread so you can pm if you rather but isn't pregabalin lyrica? I believe that's similar to gabapentin right? Gaba was helping me so much then I started having a jaw clenching/teeth grinding side effect. I'm going to ask my psychiatrist about it next time..have you experienced any side effects?

 

[kohaku]

I really don't mean to derail the thread so you can pm if you rather but isn't pregabalin lyrica? I believe that's similar to gabapentin right? Gaba was helping me so much then I started having a jaw clenching/teeth grinding side effect. I'm going to ask my psychiatrist about it next time..have you experienced any side effects?

I've been on it for like three weeks...? 75mg twice a day and 150 in the evening. And I haven't had any side effects. It does depend on the dosage, though, and 75mg is the lowest. Besides, despite being similar substances, a different substance can give you very different side effects still, so it's definitely a good thing to bring up with your doctor. Also, pregabalin has been shown to be more efficient for anxiety than gabapentin as a first line treatment, with less side effects.

A prominent one is increased appetite, but again, it depends on dosage, and I also vape, so the nicotine nullifies it for me.

One thing I recommend is not abusing it, recreational doses are quite high.

 

[Worthless_nobody]

I've been on it for like three weeks...? 75mg twice a day and 150 in the evening. And I haven't had any side effects. It does depend on the dosage, though, and 75mg is the lowest. Besides, despite being similar substances, a different substance can give you very different side effects still, so it's definitely a good thing to bring up with your doctor. Also, pregabalin has been shown to be more efficient for anxiety than gabapentin as a first line treatment, with less side effects.

A prominent one is increased appetite, but again, it depends on dosage, and I also vape, so the nicotine nullifies it for me.

One thing I recommend is not abusing it, recreational doses are quite high.

Thanks for the info! The increased appetite is actually a good side effect for me since I struggle to eat sometimes. I'm definitely asking my Dr about it next visit to replace the gaba. I also have fibromyalgia and I heard it helps that too.

 

[Life_and_Death]

I really don't mean to derail the thread so you can pm if you rather but...

It's cool, you don't have to worry about that :) it gave me some good information too although I wonder if it can go lower then 75mg.

 

[Sk1n1M1n]

The way I think of it as life is stressful, plus we have the symptoms of to contend with. So if we can have pills to make life easier to forget about problems occasionally then, we are not doing any harm. We don't need to bother with pointless mindfulness and "taking a deep breath" bollocks.

 

[mathieu]

I found with benzos I just develop tolerance and they no longer work and then if I run out or miss a dose I'm in hell with withdrawal. I don't take a them any more.

 

[AJ95]

I actually really get that feel lol, there have been a lot of times that I've wanted to just be a mindless zombie going through life, literally last night I googled "what drug turns you into a zombie" but it just came up with illegal drugs that make you crazy like bath salts.

Valium doesn't turn you into a zombie though, I've had it a few times in hospital and it just sedates you. It just made me go to bed and curl up and sleep for a while. Maybe xanax would be better at that? I haven't tried it but I hear it's stronger than valium.

Also both valium and xanax are very addictive as other users have had, and you build up a tolerance really quickly

 

[Sk1n1M1n]

Its definitely on my order list for this week. Xanax and pregabalin = a chillful weekend.

 

[Sk1n1M1n]

How about only going on them once or twice a week ? Like I use the valium or Xanax at the weekends when it doesn't matter if I am bit drowsy p.