Venting To me it’s horrifying how humans so cruelly decide to procreate

[DreamEnd]

It does make me curious as to what people's general attitudes towards reproduction would be if the odds were a lot more even, say 40% your child is a FC and 60% your child is a Tantacrul.

LOL. Hahahaha idk but this made me chuckle. Thanks.

 

[Quantum Particle]

Yeah no doubt every parent would say that-including parents of those that CTB. Sorry but I'd have to hear it from them to believe it, parents are mostly utterly clueless. At the least they're probably worried about you since you're on a site like this, or are you pretending you're happy to them too.

why the fuck would I lie to my own children, I am completely open to them and I would expect exactly the same off them. Like I said most people are normal, we are considered not normal.This is my second son by the way, both sons are absolutely amazing and I don't deserve either of them

 

[Geengezondementalit]

not everyone feels like you ?

jenny Saville that art!

 

[IndestinctPlace]

I find it horrifying how they continue to so cruelly and selfishly procreate even know existing is nothing but suffering, it's just hellish to me how humans impose existence yet wish to make it into a prison where one cannot peacefully escape on their own terms.

Only non-existence is desirable to me, I'd always prefer for this existence to permanently disappear into nothingness, the fact that a peaceful suicide is cruelly made so inaccessible means that existence is basically just slavery and imprisonment to me.
I see nothing appealing about the torturous and futile burden that is having the ability to exist, it disturbs me how they procreate even despite the fact that there is no limit as to how much agony one can feel as long as they exist. It's disturbing how in existence there is unlimited potential for pain, torment and suffering which is why procreation is such a terrible tragedy to me.

It's tragic how they force this hellish and harmful existence onto others and do all they can to stop them permanently freeing themselves from it, existence truly is evil to me, I see procreation as such a horrific crime as it causes immense harm, it's the source of all suffering.
And I see all suffering as unacceptable and best avoided, to me existence is nothing more than a virus that causes so much senseless cruelty and meaningless torment which is why I'd see it as better to not exist under all circumstances, only non-existence is ideal but of course only never existing is true perfection.

I hate myself for ever giving the opportunity to get pregnant. The biggest mistake I ever made was to open up my body to anyone. Now my kid not only has an incredibly bleak existence to look forward too, but she also has to deal with me as a parent. I feel terrible like every action up to this point was a huge mistake. I'm looking into godparents for them, because I don't trust myself or the system to give them the life they deserve.

 

[Quantum Particle]

I hate myself for ever giving the opportunity to get pregnant. The biggest mistake I ever made was to open up my body to anyone. Now my kid not only has an incredibly bleak existence to look forward to, but she also has to deal with me as a parent. I feel terrible like every action up to this point was a huge mistake. I'm looking into godparents for them, because I don't trust myself or the system to give them the life they deserve.

Honestly, you will give her the life she deserves. Just show plenty of love and fun and everything else will slot into place. Let her know she is the world to you, listen to the people on this site all talking about how their parents have been and don't make the same mistakes. Always, Always be there for her when she is in need and always be honest. You can and will be a perfect mum x

 

[TheSpookyNameGuy]

Seems the braindead NPC pro-lifers are here..

I spotted one just up there, so braindead they can't even see it rofl

 

[DreamEnd]

Seems the braindead NPC pro-lifers are here..

I spotted one just up there, so braindead they can't even see it rofl

In this thread? I haven't noticed one

 

[TheSpookyNameGuy]

In this thread? I haven't noticed one

Yea someone above yaping about their kids, typical parent things

 

[DreamEnd]

Yea someone above yaping about their kids, typical parent things

I mean she is just saying how to be a good parent to your kids lol.

 

[betternever2havbeen]

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Then maybe I'm not every parent, he even wanted to come back from Australia but I had to talk him out of it. Your typical with most people on here, because your so besotted with your own experiences you think everybody is suffering the same

Bit hypocritical coming from someone who has decided we're the minority and you presume to know how the majority of people feel about life.

OK so your sons are doing well and blissfully happy despite the fact one of their parents is suicidally depressed? Or you're not? In which case I wonder what you're doing on here...kids worry about their parents, if you're that bad mentally it's going to be affecting them in some way, assuming you have a close relationship. I'm not saying I automatically think your sons are miserable I just said I'd rather hear it from them, too many parents speaking for their children all the time.

 

[Downdraft]

OK so your sons are doing well and blissfully happy despite the fact one of their parents is suicidally depressed? Or you're not? In which case I wonder what you're doing on here...kids worry about their parents, if you're that bad mentally it's going to be affecting them in some way, assuming you have a close relationship. I'm not saying I automatically think your sons are miserable I just said I'd rather hear it from them, too many parents speaking for their children all the time.

Some people is just very good at hiding and dealing with their emotions. You don't need to be depressed to believe in the right to die, either.

 

[TheSpookyNameGuy]

I mean she is just saying how to be a good parent to your kids lol.

I haven't read all of their responses, oh well, that's good atleast.

They're still a natalist so i vomit in my mouth naturally, of course.

 

[Malaria]

It honestly makes me wish I didn't have maternal instincts, I hate having maternal instincts so much, I wish I could turn it off

 

[Quantum Particle]

Seems the braindead NPC pro-lifers are here..

I spotted one just up there, so braindead they can't even see it rofl

I can hardly do basic arithmetic anymore.

I cannot count backwards as of this year, i literally cannot remember the numbers said to me, my brain struggles to place them around.

My brain is dying quicker than my body..
Is this the brain dead you speak of

 

[TheSpookyNameGuy]

I can hardly do basic arithmetic anymore.

I cannot count backwards as of this year, i literally cannot remember the numbers said to me, my brain struggles to place them around.

My brain is dying quicker than my body..
Is this the brain dead you speak of

No not me, i never said i was brain dead, but they are, naturally.

 

[Quantum Particle]

Bit hypocritical coming from someone who has decided we're the minority and you presume to know how the majority of people feel about life.

OK so your sons are doing well and blissfully happy despite the fact one of their parents is suicidally depressed? Or you're not? In which case I wonder what you're doing on here...kids worry about their parents, if you're that bad mentally it's going to be affecting them in some way, assuming you have a close relationship. I'm not saying I automatically think your sons are miserable I just said I'd rather hear it from them, too many parents speaking for their children all the time.

No I haven't decided we are the minority, 130-140 million people are born every year and approx 700,000 commit suicide, it's just simple arithmetic to know we are the minority, you should try it some time one, two, three…….

 

[dragonofenvy]

It honestly makes me wish I didn't have maternal instincts, I hate having maternal instincts so much, I wish I could turn it off

Yeah I'm getting paternal instincts myself. I saw a father walking their kid to the bus and I felt jealous of him and thought "I wish I could have a child and do the same thing" and immediately had to kick myself because if I had a kid they'd suffer because of how shit of a parent I would be.

 

[Quantum Particle]

No not me, i never said i was brain dead, but they are, naturally.

I am the they, ffs you really are brain dead

 

[TheSpookyNameGuy]

I am the they, ffs you really are brain dead

Gotcha going

 

[Quantum Particle]

No you've just checked back up the posts and realised

 

[Malaria]

Yeah I'm getting paternal instincts myself. I saw a father walking their kid to the bus and I felt jealous of him and thought "I wish I could have a child and do the same thing" and immediately had to kick myself because if I had a kid they'd suffer because of how shit of a parent I would be.

That's so relatable... every time I see a mother holding her baby, I get so emotional, and it's so frustrating, I want it to stop.

 

[betternever2havbeen]

No I haven't decided we are the minority, 130-140 million people are born every year and approx 700,000 commit suicide, it's just simple arithmetic to know we are the minority, you should try it some time one, two, three…….

So what? There's 45k members on this site and only a tiny minority have CTB, doesn't mean the rest of us are not depressed tho-unless most of us are here purely for entertainment...I know there's some pro-lifers here for sure but I'd like to think most of us are genuine. How many suicides would there be if SN or something even more painless and full proof was available? This is what parents are so SHIT scared about, if life was so great they wouldn't need to worry about banning all the sources now would they?

 

[DreamEnd]

Yeah I'm getting paternal instincts myself. I saw a father walking their kid to the bus and I felt jealous of him and thought "I wish I could have a child and do the same thing" and immediately had to kick myself because if I had a kid they'd suffer because of how shit of a parent I would be.

Every time I work at my restaurant and see a little kid it makes me want to cry. And I'm a guy. That's so fucked.

 

[sserafim]

I mean she is just saying how to be a good parent to your kids lol.

It's a he lol

 

[DreamEnd]

So what? There's 45k members on this site and only a tiny minority have CTB, doesn't mean the rest of us are not depressed tho-unless most of us are here purely for entertainment...I know there's some pro-lifers here for sure but I'd like to think most of us are genuine. How many suicides would there be if SN or something even more painless and full proof was available? This is what parents are so SHIT scared about, if life was so great they wouldn't need to worry about banning all the sources now would they?

Most suicides aren't planned carefully by people who have no hopes of recovering. They are mostly impulsive attempts usually by people in a suicidal crisis that is often very short lived with good possibility of recovery. So it makes sense to restrict methods specifically for them because these events aren't usually the reasons worth killing your self over. Of course by doing that you are also restricting it for people who need it. But that is why euthanasia should be legal everywhere. Same reason you don't give a gun to a mentally insane person is the same reason you don't just completely have a walk in euthanasia clinic for everybody. Of course you would see more suicides then but that doesn't mean that life generally sucks it just means that SOME things suck in life but these things can be overcome by some people. Again not by all people and those who don't want to recover or can't should be given the right to euthanasia of course

 

[dragonofenvy]

So it makes sense to restrict methods specifically for them because these events aren't usually the reasons worth killing your self over.

The problem is who gets to decide what reasons are worth it? Because some people have the idea that suicide is never ever okay in any circumstance no matter how much you're suffering.

 

[DreamEnd]

The problem is who gets to decide what reasons are worth it? Because some people have the idea that suicide is never ever okay in any circumstance no matter how much you're suffering.

I agree and that is a huge problem. But you see what I mean? On one hand. No one gets it. On the other hand you aren't protecting teenagers from using it and people in a short suicidal crisis. There has to be a middle ground. It should be legal everywhere but shouldn't be abused

 

[Hotsackage]

One cannot deny natural selection lol

 

[betternever2havbeen]

Most suicides aren't planned carefully by people who have no hopes of recovering. They are mostly impulsive attempts usually by people in a suicidal crisis that is often very short lived with good possibility of recovery. So it makes sense to restrict methods specifically for them because these events aren't usually the reasons worth killing your self over. Of course by doing that you are also restricting it for people who need it. But that is why euthanasia should be legal everywhere. Same reason you don't give a gun to a mentally insane person is the same reason you don't just completely have a walk in euthanasia clinic for everybody. Of course you would see more suicides then but that doesn't mean that life generally sucks it just means that SOME things suck in life but these things can be overcome by some people. Again not by all people and those who don't want to recover or can't should be given the right to euthanasia of course

I agree with all that-which is why I think suicide should be a last resort, but I just wouldn't bring a child into the world where there's a chance they'd EVER get so low as to be contemplating suicide, even in the very short-term.

 

[DreamEnd]

I agree with all that-which is why I think suicide should be a last resort, but I just wouldn't bring a child into the world where there's a chance they'd EVER get so low as to be contemplating suicide, even in the very short-term.

Yes I think parents should be responsible and have financial, emotional stability, good country, healthy relationships and friends before they ever think of having children. Parents who are irresponsible in that regard shouldn't be parents