to anyone wanting to ctb

[cami]

hi. if you want to ctb, i respect that but i would strongly urge you not to go through with it if you havent done the below three steps for at least a year. i just want to remind people on this side of the forum that recovery is hard but possible and these three might be your best bet, because deciding to ctb should not be your first option if you're struggling.
- tried therapy
- tried medications
- told a mental health professional how you feel at least to an extent where they can attempt to help you
if you haven't done these three and are actively planning to ctb i plead with you to pause and do these. if they don't work then i believe it is your human right to pass on, but i really think you should give these a try first.
i love you all very much, and please stay safe in whatever way that means to you <3

 

[Vizzy]

- tried therapy
- tried medications
- told a mental health professional how you REALLY feel

How these options can help a person who

Feel like they are ugly
Have a financial problem
Had a huge failure in life
No one wants to date them
People don't like them
Family expect a lot from them
Family burden
Work burden
Feel like unattractive
Disability
Don't like their average or poor life
Don't like to work
Physically abused and sexually assaulted
Can't achieve things they want in life
Autism

I think most of the things I mentioned above your options can't help, let be honest!

All these therapists and doctors, once you leave the room they just don't care, they just doing their job for money!

 

[Unattainable666]

How these options can help a person who

Feel like they are ugly
Have a financial problem
Had a huge failure in life
No one wants to date them
People don't like them
Family expect a lot from them
Family burden
Work burden
Feel like unattractive
Disability
Don't like their average or poor life
Don't like to work
Physically abused and sexually assaulted
Can't achieve things they want in life

I think most of the things I mentioned above your options can't help, let be honest!

All these therapists and doctors, once you leave the room they just don't care, they just doing their job for money!

I agree.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

@Vizzy I can fully confirm and relate to this!! Very well said!!

 

[Worndown]

If you feel any of those three things are not being successful due to your medical professional, please try to seek a second opinion. Not all professionals are good and even the good ones can not be a good match for everyone. This is more of an art than a science. I hope you find the artist.

 

[Vizzy]

@Vizzy I can fully confirm and relate to this!! Very well said!!

Thank you

 

[Crono]

How these options can help a person who

Feel like they are ugly
Have a financial problem
Had a huge failure in life
No one wants to date them
People don't like them
Family expect a lot from them
Family burden
Work burden
Feel like unattractive
Disability
Don't like their average or poor life
Don't like to work
Physically abused and sexually assaulted
Can't achieve things they want in life

I think most of the things I mentioned above your options can't help, let be honest!

All these therapists and doctors, once you leave the room they just don't care, they just doing their job for money!

Add autism

 

[Worndown]

Talking to a good therapist has the possibility of helping all of those problems. It is about helping you get a better perspective on yourself and your situation. The compass will not work if the needle keeps spinning.

 

[Myforevercharlie]

hi. if you want to ctb, i respect that but i would strongly urge you not to go through with it if you havent done the below three steps for at least a year. i just want to remind people on this forum that recovery is hard but possible and these three might be your best bet, because deciding to ctb should not be your first option if you're struggling.
- tried therapy
- tried medications
- told a mental health professional how you REALLY feel
if you haven't done these three and are actively planning to ctb i plead with you to pause and do these. if they don't work then i believe it is your human right to pass on, but i really think you should give these a try first.
i love you all very much, and please stay safe <3

Please keep these kind of comments in the recovery section

 

[CentreMid]

hi. if you want to ctb, i respect that but i would strongly urge you not to go through with it if you havent done the below three steps for at least a year. i just want to remind people on this forum that recovery is hard but possible and these three might be your best bet, because deciding to ctb should not be your first option if you're struggling.
- tried therapy
- tried medications
- told a mental health professional how you REALLY feel
if you haven't done these three and are actively planning to ctb i plead with you to pause and do these. if they don't work then i believe it is your human right to pass on, but i really think you should give these a try first.
i love you all very much, and please stay safe <3

There are people who aren't struggling, who don't need medications or a therapist, yet choose to die by suicide for their own personal reasons. Who are we to deny or discourage them from exercising their rights? I don't think begging people to try getting help will solve anything. My apologies for coming across as harsh, these are just my thoughts. Take care.

 

[luci_lived]

I also want to add that if you are a bipoc person, please try a bipoc professional. For context I'm 1st gen Mexican American. When I was 15, I had a white therapist assume my father had left my mom and I when I told her they weren't together (my dad was very much in my life), accused me of coming in to get addictive pharmaceuticals to sell, and said if I wasn't fat maybe I'd be happy. I was so embarrassed and I cried for weeks about it this one hour session. I couldn't talk about it without crying until I was in my mid 20s. And I refused to see a therapist again. I've had several similar encounters with white medical doctors until I was 25 and decided to see bipoc doctors only— huge difference in the way I was treated! So much empathy and listening.

 

[Aisley]

Idk about Australia, but generally therapists are legally required to report if a person is a danger to themselves. Just how honest are you suggesting people be here? To the point of being institutionalized? Please be more careful with your advice; you could do damage while trying to do what you think are good deeds. Shit goes down in those institutions that really aught not. Not saying they're all bad, but by the time one finds out, it's too late. They're kinda like foster homes in that way.

 

[cami]

How these options can help a person who

Feel like they are ugly
Have a financial problem
Had a huge failure in life
No one wants to date them
People don't like them
Family expect a lot from them
Family burden
Work burden
Feel like unattractive
Disability
Don't like their average or poor life
Don't like to work
Physically abused and sexually assaulted
Can't achieve things they want in life
Autism

I think most of the things I mentioned above your options can't help, let be honest!

All these therapists and doctors, once you leave the room they just don't care, they just doing their job for money!

therapy can actually help with quite a few of these things. i agree about the money thing, but at the end of the day that's all any of us do for their jobs. i still think people should at least give them a try before they ctb. agree to disagree i suppose.

Idk about Australia, but generally therapists are legally required to report if a person is a danger to themselves. Just how honest are you suggesting people be here? To the point of being institutionalized? Please be more careful with your advice; you could do damage while trying to do what you think are good deeds. Shit goes down in those institutions that really aught not. Not saying they're all bad, but by the time one finds out, it's too late. They're kinda like foster homes in that way.

i definitely agree with this, so i might rephrase to as honest as possible. to get help people need to know you need help.

 

[Vizzy]

therapy can actually help with quite a few of these things. i agree about the money thing, but at the end of the day that's all any of us do for their jobs. i still think people should at least give them a try before they ctb. agree to disagree i suppose.

Few days before you posted this and this was your first post in this website lol, are you sure is this the same person because most of the people in this website who wanna ctb will not create a post like this as we are all not this crazy



Yes you can disagree but what I said is truth!

 

[cami]

There are people who aren't struggling, who don't need medications or a therapist, yet choose to die by suicide for their own personal reasons. Who are we to deny or discourage them from exercising their rights? I don't think begging people to try getting help will solve anything. My apologies for coming across as harsh, these are just my thoughts. Take care.

i understand your point and i dont want to deny people their right to pass away, as obviously i intend on using that right too. i just don't want them to make a permanent decision without attempting treatment, because for many people they can go on and live fulfilled lives. i dont begrudge people who don't try treatment especially because for many it is unavailable or too expensive but i wish they could. its just a guilt thing, i guess? i dont want to be complicit in ctb attempts if there are common options they haven't tried. you take care too my love <3

 

[Pidgeons_Sparrows]

How these options can help a person who

Feel like they are ugly
Have a financial problem
Had a huge failure in life
No one wants to date them
People don't like them
Family expect a lot from them
Family burden
Work burden
Feel like unattractive
Disability
Don't like their average or poor life
Don't like to work
Physically abused and sexually assaulted
Can't achieve things they want in life
Autism

I think most of the things I mentioned above your options can't help, let be honest!

All these therapists and doctors, once you leave the room they just don't care, they just doing their job for money!

That last sentence hits home

 

[cami]

Few days before you posted this and this was your first post in this website lol, are you sure is this the same person because most of the people in this website who wanna ctb will not create a post like this as we are all not this crazy

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Yes you can disagree but what I said is truth!

haha i am in fact very crazy. much love.

 

[SetMeFree11]

That last sentence hits home

For me as well.
50 minutes a week, give me my money and don't want to hear from you untill next week.
Also I would never mention being suicidel

 

[Pidgeons_Sparrows]

For me as well.
50 minutes a week, give me my money and don't want to hear from you untill next week.
Also I would never mention being suicidel

To be fair its a gamble
some therapists are amazing and others are just narcicisstic assholes
It a game of luck

 

[deomlez]

You re not logical. Our right on our body cannot be denied or stolen. This sentence is a tautology.
I m rational, my willing to ctb is rational too, no emotional part here. F*** off your pills, hospital and so on.

 

[cami]

You re not logical. Our right on our body cannot be denied or stolen. This sentence is a tautology.
I m rational, my willing to ctb is rational too, no emotional part here. F*** off your pills, hospital and so on.

my intention is not to deny your human rights. it is simply to propose a less drastic second option to those who have not tried seeking help.

 

[SetMeFree11]

To be fair its a gamble
some therapists are amazing and others are just narcicisstic assholes
It a game of luck

None of my therapists were narcissists, just that the therapy didn't help me.
I have friends that it changed their lives, so it's not for anyone

 

[Vizzy]

None of my therapists were narcissists, just that the therapy didn't help me.
I have friends that it changed their lives, so it's not for anyone

And not for all the problems

 

[SetMeFree11]

And not for all the problems

Well, it did a number on my bank account...

 

[deomlez]

my intention is not to deny your human rights. it is simply to propose a less drastic second option to those who have not tried seeking help.

Do you think we haven't done it yet ?
Could you, and all other well-thinking people, not allow you to kidnapp our own lives ? We don't own you. We just own ourselves. No exception to this. No comment. Just respect.

 

[jemetire]

If I wanna die then let me die I don't care anymore

 

[cami]

Do you think we haven't done it yet ?
Could you, and all other well-thinking people, not allow you to kidnapp our own lives ? We don't own you. We just own ourselves. No exception to this. No comment. Just respect.

if youve tried, then fair play. all the best to you and im sorry life has let you down. i know how it feels.

 

[feder]

While I do agree with you about some people being able to recover and that ctb is not always the best option, it heavily depends on where you live and weather you find the right therapist/meds, considering peoples experiences I've read on here that is rarely the case.
It also really depends on the person and if they want to be helped or not, some people really just want to die no matter what, and I don't think its necessary to go through all of those things to find out that you still want to die.
I understand that you want to help the people here and are concerned and I thank you for that. We are here to provide support for whatever you are going through.

 

[cami]

While I do agree with you about some people being able to recover and that ctb is not always the best option, it heavily depends on where you live and weather you find the right therapist/meds, considering peoples experiences I've read on here that is rarely the case.
It also really depends on the person and if they want to be helped or not, some people really just want to die no matter what, and I don't think its necessary to go through all of those things to find out that you still want to die.
I understand that you want to help the people here and are concerned and I thank you for that. We are here to provide support for whatever you are going through.

no i totally understand this. but as someone who has been through all the attempts at recovery and has decided that personally deciding to ctb is my best decision i just want to encourage people to try before they give up on life. but i understand the opposing POVS. much love to you as well.

 

[leftdreaming]

Few days before you posted this and this was your first post in this website lol, are you sure is this the same person because most of the people in this website who wanna ctb will not create a post like this as we are all not this crazy

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Yes you can disagree but what I said is truth!

Damn, gotta get myself in that psych ward. They did a whole 180°!