to anyone wanting to ctb

[Myforevercharlie]

@cami.


Recovery section please

 

[AnxietyHangover]

All these therapists and doctors, once you leave the room they just don't care, they just doing their job for money!

Not everyone is like that. I for one have a therapist that I can sense she truly feels for me and tries her best. I can feel she fears for my life and our discussions always feel genuine and heartfelt. I remember the first time I visited her, I'll never forget the hug she gave me, it felt so real. I am a client but above all I felt cared for and I felt like someone else apart from my family actually gave a damn about me.

And about our topic, yeah, you should try, at least give recovery a chance before ctbing. If meds fail, therapy fails, changing your ways fails, then it seems reasonable to me to do the deed.

 

[FuneralCry]

I think that wanting to exist in this hellish and dreadful world where there is unlimited potential to suffer is the true irrational thing. To me there's nothing more ideal than permanently ceasing to exist as in death there are no problems and suffering, I see suicide as being self care as it returns one to the ideal state of non-existence where they are finally free from this unnecessary burden that they were so cruelly forced to endure in the first place. And I could just never see the point or appeal to existing in the first place, I think it's always preferable to not exist and I could never see existence as being a desirable state, it's a tragic horrific mistake. I find existing to be replusive and I see no value in this process of slowly dying, we are destined for nothing but to be tormented by old age, we are only just waiting around to die.

None of us are obligated to continue existing here as after all, existence is just a meaningless consequence of people so selfishly deciding to procreate in the first place, and other people shouldn't have to suffer just because some people value this dreadful and pointless existence, it's a personal decision when to leave. Therapy is a scam anyway, designed to profit from people's suffering and wanting to die could never be an "illness", the view that existence is always the most desirable option is a lie pushed so that the society doesn't lose it's slaves.

Not everyone is delusional enough to wish to delay the inevitable and the reality is that seeing non-existence as the preferable option is just having awareness, wanting suicide makes perfect sense in this world as it's the solution for everything, it solves what I see as being the true problem in the first place which is existence in itself.

I see so much beauty in being unable to suffer with this existence finally forgotten about, death truly is the only comfort in such a nightmarish world. I think it's so absurd being anti-suicide when we are all just destined to die anyway, just the fact that existence is filled with extreme potential for suffering and is generally just futile and pointless means that wanting suicide will always be perfectly rational.
Believing that people who are aware need to be "helped" is the true delusion, wanting to die is just seeing existence for what it really is.

 

[Vizzy]

Not everyone is like that. I for one have a therapist that I can sense she truly feels for me and tries her best. I can feel she fears for my life and our discussions always feel genuine and heartfelt. I remember the first time I visited her, I'll never forget the hug she gave me, it felt so real. I am a client but above all I felt cared for and I felt like someone else apart from my family actually gave a damn about me.

Nah still she is doing it for money, how many sessions she will do with you if you don't have money, answer will be zero!
Some people are good at acting as they don't know that they are acting, especially when you pay them money you are paying for their life, joy and things. Even if you die your therapist won't come to your funeral maybe she will feel bad but she will do for anyone. Getting a hug from therapist sorry it's not a big deal, I would say most of the therapist can give you a hug!

 

[GettingOut]

If you feel any of those three things are not being successful due to your medical professional, please try to seek a second opinion. Not all professionals are good and even the good ones can not be a good match for everyone. This is more of an art than a science. I hope you find the artist.

Yeah, I had an "unlimited" health insurance that covered everything. The best treatment that was available. The GP, neurologist and psychiatrist put me on meds that made a zombie out of me. Which made me make one bad decision that cancelled that insurance. The psychologist that I was seeing for over 4 years at the time was like: "How do you feel?" After offloading all the internal agony I was experiencing, the time was up and appointment scheduled for next week. I could have freaking talked to my bookshelf if I just wanted to talk out loud. I needed someone who can help me make sense of the bolognaise that was inside my head!

Now being disabled and not able to work, I don't have the money to find a match and hope they're an "artist." I'd rather just remove myself from the equation and problem solved. Then there is no one to blame, pity, no financial burden, and most of all I won't feel the relentless chronic physical and emotional pain anymore.

That is my 2 cents. But I actually agree with you, if you have the funds and your circumstances allow, be the canvass for the artist's sake

 

[Worndown]

I am sorry you had a bad match. Not all are like that. They never see the harm they cause instead of helping to fix. Humans have egos and some are too strong.

 

[LittleJem]

I saw one woman who had been suicidal in psych ward smiling, happy and working and going back to uni. She attributed this to therapy (!).

I am overjoyed for her. And pretty hopeless for myself - much older, absolutely exhausted, nearly at the end of the medication guinea pig rope. Years of therapy. Tired of hope. Fated to be hated. Alone nearly all week. Trying to come to terms with an absolutely pointless existence.
If I had the money I'd hire myself a carer to get me to do things - cos my motivation is at zero on these meds.

 

[catharspiral]

Nah still she is doing it for money, how many sessions she will do with you if you don't have money, answer will be zero!
Some people are good at acting as they don't know that they are acting, especially when you pay them money you are paying for their life, joy and things. Even if you die your therapist won't come to your funeral maybe she will feel bad but she will do for anyone. Getting a hug from therapist sorry it's not a big deal, I would say most of the therapist can give you a hug!

No, please don't say this. I've had a therapist like their own before. The connection is REAL, and there are indeed people in that profession who deeply care for their clients and want to help. In that case whether or not they're getting paid for it is irrelevant. I believe the world and humankind are messed up beyond repair but there is still kind souls to be found.

 

[Vizzy]

No, please don't say this. I've had a therapist like their own before. The connection is REAL, and there are indeed people in that profession who deeply care for their clients and want to help. In that case whether or not they're getting paid for it is irrelevant. I believe the world and humankind are messed up beyond repair but there is still kind souls to be found.

Still they won't do it for free, everything in this world is business and money that's the reality! IMO

 

[catharspiral]

Still they won't do it for free, everything in this world is business and money that's the reality! IMO

You're right about that. I'm probably just being naive but I still believe it's worth it to have someone care at all, even if it means very little in the end

 

[generaltonight1709]

I have gone to three mental hospitals, many phycologist/phycitrist/therapist, so many different types of medications, and even ECT and ketamine therapy.

 

[Kasumi]

ya'll should calm down a little.
It's true that in many places doctors, therapists, etc don't actually give a shit, in many places the health care system is just not good.
And some problems just can't be solved by our current health care system.
But it's also true that there are places where it's not like that, there are people who those things really help.
And while probably most people here are aware of what can or can't help them and most of us have tried recovery before, there are also always some people that are a bit hasty about things.

Just slapping an 18+ sign on here doesn't guarantee that every adult has actually thought this through as they should have.
The difference is that as an adult, you are responsible for yourself, so if you end up ctb'ing even though you could've actually gotten out of it then it's not anyone else's fault, thats the reason it's 18+.

I think it's fair to remind people, of the things that eventually could help... or not, but if it gets someone to consider their options who hasn't done that before then thats a good thing.

 

[ncmxm]

Not everyone is like that. I for one have a therapist that I can sense she truly feels for me and tries her best. I can feel she fears for my life and our discussions always feel genuine and heartfelt. I remember the first time I visited her, I'll never forget the hug she gave me, it felt so real. I am a client but above all I felt cared for and I felt like someone else apart from my family actually gave a damn about me.

And about our topic, yeah, you should try, at least give recovery a chance before ctbing. If meds fail, therapy fails, changing your ways fails, then it seems reasonable to me to do the deed.

You hired a great actor congrats
She doesn't give a shit about you, none of them do

 

[H.O.Xan]

It's coz of that stupid video of tanta every prolife mf hopping on this section to spout their ideologies. Damn it leave us alone

 

[EternalShore]

None of those things do anything to solve the root of anyone's problem. :/ They all just help with symptoms for some people! >_< But if you have like an actually hopeless situation (why at least, most of us came here), then it's not going to actually do a thing other than suck up money and be a waste of time/energy! :p
Now, personally, I will not do therapy (altho, I've thought about it before) because they are selfish, don't really care, and I'm scared they'll tell on me. And medications are stupid and modify your mental state from what it freely is.